A Fix for Freo

[jarman]

Here is my suggestion to Fix Freo:

Coaching:

Get rid on Connolly and enough has been said on why. Try for Wayne Carey as he was a leader at North Melbourne and he will carry player respect for his achievements on the footy field. If WC does not come, get Peter German as he has done a great job at Subi. Knows how to build a successful team.

The coach must be a strong character to stop any interference from the "p*** board" that we have.

Delist:
Haines – nothing to offer, pay him out.
Seigert – others have passed him bye
Schofield – too slow. Pay him out.
Webster – others have passed him bye
Browne – too short and never seems to be on the park.

Trade
Dunn – good size but too slow. See if there are any takers.
Medhurst – does not want to stay. Try for a first round draft.
Polak – see what is available. Must be first round draft as a minimum.
Headland – see if there are any takers. Otherwise keep.
Walker - see if there are any takers. Otherwise keep

Keep
Bell – great leader and club man.
Black – good year and has earned his spot.
Campbell – have my doubts but still young, so preserver for one more year.
Carr M – OK but has ability to do more.
Carr J – good year and has earned his spot.
Cook – great heart with a lot of guts.
Copping - have my doubts but still young, so presever for one more year.
Cowley – promoted and stays on main list.
Dodd – developing and doing OK.
Farmer – key small forward. Stays.
Gilmore – great WAFL year and must be given more opportunity.
Grover – really stepped up this year.
Haddrill – need him back on the park.
Haselby – IMO playing with an injury.
Hayden – need him back on the park.
Johnson – good year and needs more opportunities in 2006.
Longmuir – No 1 ruckman.
McManus – if he cannot be put on veterans list, hard but delist.
McPharlin – just a gun player.
Murphy – needs more game time.
Mundy – potential to be a really top player.
Parker – a champion that gives 100%.
Pavlich – best player and leader.
Peake – surprise packet and needs more opportunities in 2006
Sandilands – developing and OK
Schammer – developing and OK
Smith – not sure as yet but keep for one more year.
Stribbling – have my doubts but still young, so presever for one more year
Thornton – finally standing up and will get better.
Woods – a talent just needs the right coach. Should play him at HFF.

Rookies
Duffield – good year at WAFL and now promote to main list.
Warren – promote to main list as we lack size.
Kreiger – still young and good size, so persevere for one more year as rookie.
Juniper – still young and good size, so preserve for one more year

Draft.
With squad as it is, preference should be to get as many top 20 draft picks as possible. Priority should be for a ruckman, two midfielders with size/pace and backman with size. Min height of midfielders should 185 cm.

Rookies – Add two midfielders with size and pace and one backman min size 194 cm.

The Plan
2006 – top 8 and win one finals.
2007 – top 4 with a couple of finals wins.
2008 - top 4 with GF

 

[raffrox]

Wayne Carey?

Thus ends your credibility.

Who says Medders wants to leave?

Your post is wrong on so many levels.

 

[jarman]

Wayne Carey?

Thus ends your credibility.

Who says Medders wants to leave?

Your post is wrong on so many levels.

Have you any proof that WC would not make a good coach. No

Re Medders - rumours floating around for awhile. The tip is that Medders will not be at Freo next year.

If post is so wrong, how about offering some alternatives/suggestions.

 

[coasting]

McManus and Cook should be delisted. They are 2 of your harder players but its time to move on. They are not AFL standard.

 

[newlander77]

For mine Cook should be top 3 in the best and fairest.

 

[error404]

McManus and Cook should be delisted. They are 2 of your harder players but its time to move on. They are not AFL standard.

Thanks for your sound advise coasting now ******** off you scabby arse trolling little ******** wit.

 

[Rob]

McManus and Cook should be delisted. They are 2 of your harder players but its time to move on. They are not AFL standard.

Cook? You have got to be sh*tting me......

If Cook is delisted we should get a lynch mob going to, one by one, kill every single member of the coaching staff.

 

[anchor man]

You are surely trying to take the urine out of the people here JarsHave you seen the bottom of too many stubbies??Trade Walker!!!! and keep Woods!!!!
tell me you aren't serious.
Macca still has another year on his contract.Get rid of Cook!!!Have you ever seen a agme of football?Still with a name like that you may be related to the ones from SA so maybe that explains it.

 

[jarman]

You are surely trying to take the urine out of the people here JarsHave you seen the bottom of too many stubbies??Trade Walker!!!! and keep Woods!!!!
tell me you aren't serious.
Macca still has another year on his contract.Get rid of Cook!!!Have you ever seen a agme of football?Still with a name like that you may be related to the ones from SA so maybe that explains it.

Anchor Man - Could never see the bottom of too many stubbies? But IMO we have not seen the best of Woods and he has size, speed and skill to be anything. Just needs to have the right coach to get the best out of him. I am not a great Walker fan, just too soft.

Hate doing it but if Macca cannot be on the vets list, delist and pay him out. Is he going to offer anything further as others have passed him.

I would never get rid of Cook and have not suggested to do so. He is in my best 22 anytime.

 

[theGav56]

It is tempting to see this post as a joke. Carey and German! And the reason they will be a better coach than CC is......? German needs to do a bit of Assistant Coaching at AFL level (don't think he has; if he has then he is a reasonable rookie coach option). Carey has no coaching credibility and would have a massive learning curve to go through, which means our team goes backwards while he learns and gets his assistants etc in place.

Get rid of that many players and we have no show at finals for at least 2 years, more likely 3-4. With a similar injury run to this year we would not even be competitive. Bring in a new coach with as little afl coaching experience as these two and you can add a couple more years.

The reality is that CC is the best available coach for us, and he is likely to get us into the finals next year. If he doesn't then his position will be discussed. If he does, we will have a shot at the flag. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[dominguez]

Connolly will be our coach next year. Like it or not we need to accept it. The best we can hope for is a few changes to our assistant coaches. Waterman is rumoured to be interested in the Perth job since they are looking for a full time coach. Ashley Prescott will probably be at the club next season which is good but I would like to see someone just out of the game added to our coaching panel. Someone like Leigh Colbert, Martin Pike, Michael Voss, Matthew Primus, Jason Ball, Chris Grant or Robert Harvey would be a valuable addition (although some of those I've named might play on in 2006).

If Carey was a full time assistant under Pagan this year I would agree with you but hiring a coach who is a part time (1 night a week) skills coach is too much of a gamble. There's more to modern football than just being a good leader. You need to be a good tactician, be comfortable in the coaching box, have an understanding of the draft, the salary cap, handle sponsors, etc etc which I don't think Carey would be currently ready for. He would make an excellent assistant though but I doubt he would be willing to relinquish a high paying media job on the east coast.

You're writing off Browne because he has missed most of the season through injury. If that's the case we need to delist Hadrill who has missed 2 of the last 4 seasons through injury, and McPharlin who has missed almost half the games since he was drafted through injury. Browne may be delisted (i think he will be delisted then redrafted) but he is quick and tenacious and certainly gives 100%.

Dion Woods has played poorly since his father passed away, both for Freo and Perth. It's always difficult losing a loved one but his heart isn't in it and has had over 2 years to turn it around. Plenty of talent but doesn't deserve a spot on the list in 2006.

Medhurst should be traded but it's unlikely we'll get a 1st round pick. There would be plenty of clubs interested in Dunn but I doubt he will be traded even though I can't see where he will fit into our side. Several clubs would be keen on Dessie but considering what we gave up to get him and what we would get for him now he won't be traded. Headland will lift if/when our clearances improve, but until now he certainly hasn't been value for money.

 

[raffrox]

Have you any proof that WC would not make a good coach. No

Re Medders - rumours floating around for awhile. The tip is that Medders will not be at Freo next year.

If post is so wrong, how about offering some alternatives/suggestions.

Have you any proof that someone who to my knowledge has never coached (assistant or otherwise) would be a good coach.

I still believe Freo would be crazy to trade Medders. Why trade when some one is out of form and then be suprised when they are tearing it up at a new club (McPhee)? Its a bit like trading for someone when they are red hot and at their peak (Headland)... you are always at a disadvantage. Look at Embley at WC. Out of form, should have been traded... now he's not too shabby.

And Walker is so expendable that Freos last season run occurred when he (and others of course) came back.

I also agree with most the comments posted above.

 

[masai]

Get rid of Cook - oh yeah extract more urine.

Get rid of Macca - veterans list and handy for depth.

Carey as coach - knows the game, you never know how he would go, gamble?.

German - ok as an assistant, bombed out at Peel, parachuted into the Subi "cheque book" side. Yet to prove himself in my eyes.

Medders - poor attitude, but I'd keep him after someone like Percy Johnson has a good one on one talk (read dressing down) with him. Can we re-focus him?.

Polak - keep, needs a similar chat like Medhurst.

Woods - he's lost me. How many ways are there to be told "extract the digit"?.

Browne - persist with and hope 2006 is injury free.

 

[Slacker]

Frankly guys, I can sense the potential of the squad we currently have. The only thing we lack is some pace in the middle – pace that we could probably develop from the current squad (ie Peake). Otherwise we have a very talented squad that I’m sure man other coaches look at with envy.

I would recommend no significant changes to the squad apart from normal maintenance. Delist a few fringe players and let Macca go if we won’t play him, then use the picks in the draft. Get the best available instead of looking for specific player types.

The on field problems we have, IMO, relate to game plans and gameday tactics….ie coaching issues. My opinion on CC is that he is not a bad coach, but he is a long way from the better coaches in the AFL.

FWIW, I think CC should consider delegating certain coaching tasks to the assistants. If need be get new assistants pay them above the norm to take on additional responsibility.

 

[masai]

If need be get new assistants pay them above the norm to take on additional responsibility.

For $100 000 +, I'll take on the midfield coaching job.

I'll position myself in the outer, be wired up to the "boss" coach and with beer in hand will be able to make crucial moves from my vantage point. I've been doing this "job" all year, so why not get paid for it?.

 

[Slacker]

For $100 000 +, I'll take on the midfield coaching job.

I'll position myself in the outer, be wired up to the "boss" coach and with beer in hand will be able to make crucial moves from my vantage point. I've been doing this "job" all year, so why not get paid for it?.

Would probably be an improvement too.

 

[theGav56]

In terms of Assistant Coaches, I like the idea of Prescott, German or Hocking in terms of the local coaches. If working on clearances is the priority Hocking certainly has cred. Another name that maybe fills a gap for me is Sean Rhen. Would be an excellent mentor/Coach for Sandilands, and would bring some strategies to our clearance issues. (I have not thought much of Estaugh, though acknowledge Sandilands development this year.) Rhen is on record as saying the big fella is quality. He also is aspiring to senior coach. Who of our assistants is a potential senior coach; none seem like rising coaching stars to me.

 

[coasting]

Thanks for your sound advise coasting now ******** off you scabby arse trolling little ******** wit.

I'm not trolling. If you look around the league there is a new focus on disposal skills and a trend to weed-out the players with poor kicking, even if they are otherwise decent players. One of the keys to the Eagles improvement this year has been the weeding out of players like Rowan Jones, who can't kick, and replacing them with younger players who are otherwise not yet as good but have superior kicking skills, Sam Butler etc If Fremantle did the same I would also expect to see improvement. I know for a fact that some members of the Fremantle coaching staff aren't fans of Troy Cook and wouldn't lose any sleep if he was moved on.

 

[Mr Q]

Fix Freo? I want to make some sort of smart remark about having anchors for logos, but I'll bite my fingers instead....

Trade
Dunn – good size but too slow. See if there are any takers.
Medhurst – does not want to stay. Try for a first round draft.
Polak – see what is available. Must be first round draft as a minimum.
Headland – see if there are any takers. Otherwise keep.
Walker - see if there are any takers. Otherwise keep

Dunn - should be able to get something, but his lack of exposure will cost you. Can you get value for what you're offering though?
Medhurst - might have been worth a first round pick last year, but wouldn't be worth that now. You might be able to get mid-second round for him because he's still relatively young. Might have value as a trade sweetener perhaps.
Polak - Real wild card, but a first round pick is certainly a possibility if you trade him, and even a fairly early one (5-10). However I think you should look at a trade for a player instead, especially if there are any reasonable fast midfielders going.
Headland - The only club he'd be prepared to move to would be West Coast after all the effort of coming back to WA. We wouldn't off you his value. You'll just have to persist.
Walker - Interesting, but I wouldn't have thought it in your best interests to trade away one of your faster players. Speed is your biggest issue after all.

 

[Portia]

What would you want for Headland?

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

What would you want for Headland?

Pettigrew.

I heard Dessie had a bit of a chat with the leadership group about 6 weeks before the end of the season and they laid it on the line for him, and that's why there's been Dessie Mark II.

I also think he's been a bit stiff in having to play the forward line. Didn't CC say at the end of last season he needs to be coming off a HBF. And where did he play him? I saw games where he was leading out of the goal square.

 

[dominguez]

If the leadership group are coaching Dessie instead of the people who are actually paid to fill that role then we are in more trouble than I thought. If they've had to pull him aside for a chat then the message obviously isn't getting through from the coaching staff. It will be an interesting year for him next year. At full strength he's not in our best 18 and with the emergence of Peake, Crowley etc he should have to earn his spot in the 22 instead of being selected on reputation.

I think his best position is across half forward. He would be too unaccountable across half back and the opposition would take him to the goal square. He gets exposed on the wing when we are getting beaten out of the centre so play him forward. He's quick, a good mark and a reasonable kick for goal.

 

[doppo]

At full strength he's not in our best 18 and with the emergence of Peake, Crowley etc he should have to earn his spot in the 22 instead of being selected on reputation.

Disagree, when Des is playing his best, he is definately in our best 22. His form over the last few rounds paticularly showed that.

As for Peake, Crowley taking his spot, I'd say he's still more value to the team, it's just that the kids don't carry the same expectations and stigma that Des is burdened with.

Also, if anyone reckons bringing in a fast midfielder will fix all our problems they're dreaming. When our midfield is beaten, it's not because we're slow, it's because we don't get the ball out of the centre. It's a matter of getting Carr, Bell, Hasleby playing how they should be playing and winning the hard ball.

 

[mathew20]

Here is my suggestion to Fix Freo:

Coaching:

Get rid on Connolly and enough has been said on why. Try for Wayne Carey as he was a leader at North Melbourne and he will carry player respect for his achievements on the footy field. If WC does not come, get Peter German as he has done a great job at Subi. Knows how to build a successful team.

The coach must be a strong character to stop any interference from the "p*** board" that we have.

Delist:
Haines – nothing to offer, pay him out.
Seigert – others have passed him bye
Schofield – too slow. Pay him out.
Webster – others have passed him bye
Browne – too short and never seems to be on the park.

Trade
Dunn – good size but too slow. See if there are any takers.
Medhurst – does not want to stay. Try for a first round draft.
Polak – see what is available. Must be first round draft as a minimum.
Headland – see if there are any takers. Otherwise keep.
Walker - see if there are any takers. Otherwise keep

Keep
Bell – great leader and club man.
Black – good year and has earned his spot.
Campbell – have my doubts but still young, so preserver for one more year.
Carr M – OK but has ability to do more.
Carr J – good year and has earned his spot.
Cook – great heart with a lot of guts.
Copping - have my doubts but still young, so presever for one more year.
Cowley – promoted and stays on main list.
Dodd – developing and doing OK.
Farmer – key small forward. Stays.
Gilmore – great WAFL year and must be given more opportunity.
Grover – really stepped up this year.
Haddrill – need him back on the park.
Haselby – IMO playing with an injury.
Hayden – need him back on the park.
Johnson – good year and needs more opportunities in 2006.
Longmuir – No 1 ruckman.
McManus – if he cannot be put on veterans list, hard but delist.
McPharlin – just a gun player.
Murphy – needs more game time.
Mundy – potential to be a really top player.
Parker – a champion that gives 100%.
Pavlich – best player and leader.
Peake – surprise packet and needs more opportunities in 2006
Sandilands – developing and OK
Schammer – developing and OK
Smith – not sure as yet but keep for one more year.
Stribbling – have my doubts but still young, so presever for one more year
Thornton – finally standing up and will get better.
Woods – a talent just needs the right coach. Should play him at HFF.

Rookies
Duffield – good year at WAFL and now promote to main list.
Warren – promote to main list as we lack size.
Kreiger – still young and good size, so persevere for one more year as rookie.
Juniper – still young and good size, so preserve for one more year

Draft.
With squad as it is, preference should be to get as many top 20 draft picks as possible. Priority should be for a ruckman, two midfielders with size/pace and backman with size. Min height of midfielders should 185 cm.

Rookies – Add two midfielders with size and pace and one backman min size 194 cm.

The Plan
2006 – top 8 and win one finals.
2007 – top 4 with a couple of finals wins.
2008 - top 4 with GF

well done you should be running the club at least we would be heading in the right direction agree with you 100%

 

[oporto]

The Plan
2006 – top 8 and win one finals.
2007 – top 4 with a couple of finals wins.
2008 - top 4 with GF

Should read;

The Journey/Blueprint
2046 – top 8 and win one finals.
2057 – top 4 with a couple of finals wins.
2197 - top 4 with GF
and what about winning a GF......well thats nowhere to be seen.