A little warning

[Philhawk]

If there is any 'AFL/Soccer > League' debate in this forum, the culprits will find themselves banned indefinitely from this forum.

I for one am sick of constantly reading people, I wont name names, who feel it their duty to deride League in this forum at every opportunity.

This forum is the Rugby League forum, and the merits of the sport in comparison to other codes in Australia isn't the purpose of this forum. It is, first and foremost, a place to discuss the beautiful sport that is Rugby League.

So just remember to heed this warning and everything will be sweet, if you dont - then expect a nice 'holiday' from this forum.

 

[robbieando]

Yes people I finally have got you all a second mod to complain about, kick about and moan to when I ban you all in I go

So welcome philhawk.

But philhawk's post is also a timely reminder people for EVERYONE to read up on the RL Board Rules (which is stuck at the TOP OF THE BOARD FOR EVERYONE TO SEE AND READ) which I updated slightly yesterday so that they are more black and white and leave you in no doubt where I stand and where philhawk will stand once I run him thought the "robbieando RL Board mod training boot camp"

Its very simple for Aussie Rules fans keep it on topic and don't bag RL and you'll stay, bag RL and take it off topic and you'll go for however long philhawk or myself decide. Same applies for RL fans but replace RL with AR and we have ourselves a nice blanket warning that should hold for a few days until someone does something.

 

[littleduck]

Further to the above named closed thread... people should understand that the accepted area of BF to discuss seriously inter-code comparisons is ironically the main AFL section of the Boards.

 

[robbieando]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

Further to the above named closed thread... people should understand that the accepted area of BF to discuss seriously inter-code comparisons is ironically the main AFL section of the Boards.

No. In fact I'll make that even clearer for you LD - Rugby League based topic that have some sort of AFL/Aussie Rules angle aren't to be posted on the main board but in Bay 13. You can try and keep posting them in the main board by all means but I've asked that they either get moved to Bay 13 or binned (and I know you rather have them in 13 rather than the other option) so you best start them in Bay 13. Of course that's not to say there isn't going to be times when a topic is going to come up where it should be on the main board and that's where it should be started and it should stay.

That's is so because when the trolling begin's (and trust me it will, always does) it doesn't have to be moved to here where it either has to be then moved to the bin or have post of the posts deleted for it to be acceptable for RL Board standards (ie. no trolling. Can't have rules for certain threads and rules for others just because they are started on other parts of the website).

Hope that clears things up for you LD.

 

[littleduck]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

No. In fact I'll make that even clearer for you LD - Rugby League based topic that have some sort of AFL/Aussie Rules angle aren't to be posted on the main board but in Bay 13. [You can try and keep posting them in the main board by all means but I've asked that they either get moved to Bay 13 or binned (and I know you rather have them in 13 rather than the other option) so you best start them in Bay 13. Of course that's not to say there isn't going to be times when a topic is going to come up where it should be on the main board and that's where it should be started and it should stay.

In practice, I think you'll find that is not the case and never has been! (and probably shouldnt be)

That's is so because when the trolling begin's (and trust me it will, always does) it doesn't have to be moved to here where it either has to be then moved to the bin or have post of the posts deleted for it to be acceptable for RL Board standards (ie. no trolling. Can't have rules for certain threads and rules for others just because they are started on other parts of the website).

Hope that clears things up for you LD.

There is (and should be) a place for sensible troll-less inter-code threads and that is obviously in the main AFL threads based on my personal experience!

I agree with you that the trolls from both sides add nothing and waste everybodies time, including their own... but it's the troll-less inter-code threads I'm talking about! They don't seem to be welcome in these parts on your watch.. which is wrong I believe.

 

[MightyFighting]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

I think it would also be good to remove from this board any discussion of whether Victorians like sport, or just Aussie Rules, since it is really just an extension of the RL vs AR debate. (It also has sweet FA to do with Rugby League.)

 

[copa]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

No. In fact I'll make that even clearer for you LD - Rugby League based topic that have some sort of AFL/Aussie Rules angle aren't to be posted on the main board but in Bay 13. You can try and keep posting them in the main board by all means but I've asked that they either get moved to Bay 13 or binned (and I know you rather have them in 13 rather than the other option) so you best start them in Bay 13. Of course that's not to say there isn't going to be times when a topic is going to come up where it should be on the main board and that's where it should be started and it should stay.

That's is so because when the trolling begin's (and trust me it will, always does) it doesn't have to be moved to here where it either has to be then moved to the bin or have post of the posts deleted for it to be acceptable for RL Board standards (ie. no trolling. Can't have rules for certain threads and rules for others just because they are started on other parts of the website).

Hope that clears things up for you LD.

JUst to clarify...we can start anti-AFL or AFL Vs NRL threads in Bay 13... for fun trolling purposes???

 

[robbieando]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

JUst to clarify...we can start anti-AFL or AFL Vs NRL threads in Bay 13... for fun trolling purposes???

Up to you I guess (though I'm not going to endose such actions). However if you do so, if you cop a ban as a result then don't blame anyone but yourself and if said thread ends up in this board, I'm only going to boot it to bin anyway as I have asked the other mods NOT to dump them in here as they are basically full of posts against the board rules anyway (ie. trolling).

 

[robbieando]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

In practice, I think you'll find that is not the case and never has been! (and probably shouldnt be)

That's because LD, I asked in the past few weeks for the other mods to stop dumping the AFL vs RL type threads that were in the main board on the RL Board, rather than putting them in Bay 13 where they should go. Hence why I've made this known NOW.

There is (and should be) a place for sensible troll-less inter-code threads and that is obviously in the main AFL threads based on my personal experience!

There is no such thing LD as a "sensible troll-less inter-code thread" on the main board. You know that, yet you still keep starting them. Some can stay there and be well debated but they ALWAYS get some moron who will post some crap in them (that goes for both sides). Now I'm not saying the main board is off limits because there will be times like I said where such a thread would be topical, but it shouldn't be the first point of call anymore if you want the thread to stay where you started it everytime.

I agree with you that the trolls from both sides add nothing and waste everybodies time, including their own... but it's the troll-less inter-code threads I'm talking about! They don't seem to be welcome in these parts on your watch.. which is wrong I believe.

If they get moved from the main board to the RL then clearly another mod believes that it isn't worthwhile of staying on the main board and that it certainly isn't troll-less, so I'll clear that one up for you. In that case it gets the boot from the RL Board because of the anti-trolling rule. How many of these threads have I moved in the last 6 months??? About 2 a month and most of them have just been plain crap. The only one that I should I tried to moderated was the one we talked about LD but as I told you I could do anything other than bin it or edit it and at the time I didn't have the time to sit down and edit it.

 

[Calthorpe14]

For instance, if i were to compare the Victory to the storm off field, supporters, or future, would that be deemed as against what philhawk wants???

I have a slight feeling that had this been taken it to account before, i would be in trouble with some of the comments ive made.

 

[Philhawk]

For instance, if i were to compare the Victory to the storm off field, supporters, or future, would that be deemed as against what philhawk wants???

I have a slight feeling that had this been taken it to account before, i would be in trouble with some of the comments ive made.

Sorry, but why would you find the need to compare the Victory to the Storm in this forum anyway? I for one don't really care about A-League, but I dont make it a goal of mine to visit the Soccer forum and compare the Hawks or Essendon crowd figures to the crowd figures for Queensland Roar?

At the end of the day, all posts will be valued on their merit - as long as they are constructive and not thinly disguised trolls.

 

[robbieando]

Sorry, but why would you find the need to compare the Victory to the Storm in this forum anyway? I for one don't really care about A-League, but I dont make it a goal of mine to visit the Soccer forum and compare the Hawks or Essendon crowd figures to the crowd figures for Queensland Roar?

Agreed. Personally I don't see the need for everyone to always compare codes in the manner that it is done. I have done my level best to control it on this board, but what other mods do on other boards is up to them but if it end up in here I (and in turn philhawk if he gets to it first) will make our own call on such threads and personally I'm not a fan of AFL/Soccer vs RL threads on the RL Board because we are here to talk about Rugby League and Rugby League only.

At the end of the day, all posts will be valued on their merit - as long as they are constructive and not thinly disguised trolls.

Agreed. Debate is OK, Trolling of ANY KIND isn't and won't be allowed to continued in any form.

 

[Calthorpe14]

Sorry, but why would you find the need to compare the Victory to the Storm in this forum anyway? I for one don't really care about A-League, but I dont make it a goal of mine to visit the Soccer forum and compare the Hawks or Essendon crowd figures to the crowd figures for Queensland Roar?

At the end of the day, all posts will be valued on their merit - as long as they are constructive and not thinly disguised trolls.

Purley a hypothetical comment thats all.

 

[littleduck]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

There is no such thing LD as a "sensible troll-less inter-code thread" on the main board.

Rubbish.

You know that, yet you still keep starting them.

Some can debate such topics sensibly. Many can't. We shouldnt be catering to the lowest common denominator who infect threads with crap.

Some can stay there and be well debated but they ALWAYS get some moron who will post some crap in them (that goes for both sides).

True, but your policy is to delete a perfectly sensible thread on the basis of 1 moron who posts mud slinging crap.

 

[robbieando]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

Some can debate such topics sensibly. Many can't. We shouldnt be catering to the lowest common denominator who infect threads with crap.

Sadly LD, regardless of that Bay 13 was started for a reason and sadly the lowest common denominator seem to make up a pretty large part of this sites membership base.

True, but your policy is to delete a perfectly sensible thread on the basis of 1 moron who posts mud slinging crap.

No, LD that isn't my policy at all.

If that was the case then the thread wouldn't of been moved in the first place and only the "1 moron's" posts edited out and the thread left where it is. But as it is for a thread to have been moved to this board from the main board another mod must of seen fit for it to have been full of trolling from more than "one moron" and hence why it got moved. Pretty Simple when you think about it.

Now I only bin threads that have been moved here from other threads (that are full of trolling and not simple mistakes because you I do read them and make a judgement on them) and not threads that have been started here (those I edit, leave to continue and ban the "morons" who troll within). Again, pretty simple when you think about it.

 

[LebaneseForces]

LD Just say, Yes Sir.

 

[Philhawk]

LD Just say, Yes Sir.

Come now, LF. Explain what you're trying to say. robbie does an excellent job trying to promote positive debate in this forum. The point of BigFooty is primarily to discuss Footy - whether that be Soccer, Footy, League - whatever.

Why should 'fans' constantly start threads about a different code in a forum that isn't delegated for that purpose?

 

[Aucklander]

Pointless thread, but understandable in a way under the circumstances.

There's plenty of threads on the main board relating to Rugby League to satisfy anyones needs to stir.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Pointless thread, but understandable in a way under the circumstances.

There's plenty of threads on the main board relating to Rugby League to satisfy anyones needs to stir.

That cause Rugby League's a great sport, Victorians are starting to get a taste for the Greatest game.

BF loves Rugby League.

And I'm with copa, can someone who knows, tell us if bay13,(excellent name quite frankly, X111, Rugby )

is open to some good clean RL-AFL-RU-SOCCER-anything debate?

Say like, "All AFL fans are nut munches like PF thread", would I get baned, or would I start a thread to get things going?

 

[copa]

If there is any 'AFL/Soccer > League' debate in this forum, the culprits will find themselves banned indefinitely from this forum.

I for one am sick of constantly reading people, I wont name names, who feel it their duty to deride League in this forum at every opportunity.

This forum is the Rugby League forum, and the merits of the sport in comparison to other codes in Australia isn't the purpose of this forum. It is, first and foremost, a place to discuss the beautiful sport that is Rugby League.

So just remember to heed this warning and everything will be sweet, if you dont - then expect a nice 'holiday' from this forum.

does this apply to everyone except Zap Brannigan?

 

[steviewonder36]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

Mod Edit - Grow Up.

 

[Spewing]

Re: A little warning, by philhawk

Mod Edit - Grow Up as well

 

[robbieando]

Info for the last two poster, please DON'T bring any side issues that you might have from other parts of this forum with other posters that post on this board, otherwise I or philhawk WILL stamp down upon you with great anger.

As far as I'm concerned LD is a fine poster in terms of what he posts ON THIS BOARD, what he boards elsewhere (such as on the main board which seems to upset a few people) well I tend to not read that as

a) I'm not interested in AFL vs NRL **** messuring comps
b) I don't really have the time nor interest to follow him around the boards to read what he will post next
c) what he posts outside of this board, the RU Board and the Sydney Swans Board is none of my business and therefore as a result
d) any punishment for possible "trolling" if a moderator thinks such an offence has taken place if up to the other 20 to 30 mods who help control this forum NOT ME.

Now for the love of God replace LD's name with each and every one of your beloved Rugby League posters and you will forever and a day have my response to why I DON'T ban them for trolling the main forum.

BECAUSE THE MODS OF THOSE BOARDS CLEARLY DON'T SEE FIT AND I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO.

So please if you really do have a problem with these guys (and to be honest I can't see why you do other than the fact they love a different sport than you) find out which mods control the main board and please complain TO THEM and not me or philhawk and don't post on this post to that effect again, or I will make sure you WILL NEVER POST HERE AGAIN.

Understand??? Good.