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Cmndstab’s “Rendell on 5AA” thread - “Rendell was just on 5AA, was scathing when talking about how poor this year's draft is, he also basically said that Gold Coast/West Sydney will be unbeatable from 2014/2015 forward.” - raised a really interesting secondary point.

Birdmanptr questioned the future of the clubs: Richmond, Melbourne, Bulldogs, Carlton and Sydney given the way Rendell sees the draft concessions for Gold Coast/West Sydney will impact on the comp. A few people had some fun at Port’s expense, but the issues raised about Port’s tall men stocks are real. And at some stage over the next 4/5 years even Geelong and St Kilda will slide over the top of their slope, and start looking at their next rebuild.

Adding two more teams is going to increase the pressure on the available pool of footballers to draft. Already AFL teams are looking outside football, at basketball, rugby and Gaelic Football players. But the debate between the relative merits of athleticism over footy smarts is suggesting limits there.

At this point the long accepted advantages of a 12 team elite Australian Football competition make themselves painfully obvious. As well as the instant advantage that the pool shrinks from over 800 (considering 18 teams at 45 players including rookies) to less than 600 (12 at 45 – 50), we get a truly Home and Away comp. Each team plays every other twice, for a 22 round season.

When the advantages of such a comp have been mentioned, the assumption has always been that this is in the Too Hard Basket.
But now, perhaps not. Bringing in the two new teams without culling any old ones adds to the pressures that suggest the old model is crumbling. And if it IS going to break, fix it first! The next TV rights deal won’t achieve the billion dollars being talked about with 10-12 hack teams and 6-8 elite teams, and little chance of addressing that imbalance.

So, how can we go about this?

A Modest Proposal. (with apologies to J Swift).
AFL Mark2 will be an Australia wide, 12 team elite Australian Football competition run by the AFL commission and starting in 2014.

Immediately start planning that at the end of the 2013 season all AFL teams are de-licensed and either return to the appropriate State-based competition or become part of AFL Mark 2.

Over the next 3 years identify the 12 clubs (not teams) Australia wide that are best placed in commercial and administrative expertise and potential to support and enhance the development of their football team. This is not a level playing field for the existing or proposed teams now. The more teams in any one market, the more competition there will be for the commercial and administrative firepower necessary to support a team.

It is probable that before 2013 some clubs, recognizing the likelihood of their “demotion” would fold. While this would carry short term pain to be managed, it would have long term benefits for the remaining clubs.

The trade-off for the AFL commission is that the money pie can be sliced differently. Instead of stretching it to 18 slices, 12 teams can be given greater financial support to ensure even and professional facilities and amenities and there will still be more to support the state-based and grass-roots competitions.
What do you think? Viable? If it happened, which 12 clubs would be AFL Mark 2?
 
Ive always liked this idea. I think its unfair that teams must play a select few sides twice. It isnt "even"

Id like to see the teams as
Adelaide
West Coast
Brisbane
Sydney
Essendon
Collingwood
Carlton
Geelong
Stkilda
Hawks (Tasmania based)
Port (perhaps Darwin based)
Gold Coast


Leaving
Richmond
North Melb
Fremantle
Melbourne
West Sydney
Western Bulldogs


Victoria has too many sides. Some could merge with others. I dont know how it could be done, im sure freo fans wouldnt want to be merges with their rivals the west coast...

At least this way teams like the eddieWOOD macquirePIES would need to travel out of melbourne more than 2 times a year
 
Would love a 12 team comp.

18 teams is far too many. Per pouplation it is more than any US league and European Football.

Wont happen whilst the Vics have power. Would love to see a Superleague style shake up. This proposal, whilst I agree with wont happen as the Vic clubs wont vote themselves out of existance, or ut of the AFL Mark 2. Look how stubborn North are.
 

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I know where you are coming from but it won't happen like that. The league will continue to evolve as a slow process. The national competition had to start somewhere and the VFL was it. We now have the unfortunate situation where clubs are going to be forced out to help the evolution process.

The AFL mark II (Superleague) would be a hard pill to swallow!

Essendon Bombers, Carlton Blues & Collingwood Magpies will not change... ever (too powerful)

Geelong Cats will probably survive.

The name Melbourne will be kept, whether it be Melbourne Kangaroos, Melbourne Tigers or Melbourne Bulldogs.

St Kilda ???

Hawthorn may survive through its Tasmania connection (a full move not viable)

What I'd do...

SA: Adelaide Crows & Port Adelaide Power
WA: West Coast Eagles & Fremantle Dockers
NSW/ACT: Sydney Swans, Western Bulldogs, Canberra Kangaroos
QLD: Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast
Vic: Carlton Blues, Collingwood Magpies, Essendon Bombers, Geelong Cats, Melbourne Tigers, St Kilda Saints, Hawthorn (% in Tas) Hawks.

St Kilda & Hawthorn would be the next two Victorian teams on notice.
 
Then perhaps mergers would be more in order. As it is, I do get kinda sick of hearing about financially struggling teams. With 12, there would be less teams for the money to be spread around, so each gets a bigger slice of the footy pie...
 
the problem with your assumptions on the TV deal are that it is already like that. there are about 6-8 teams with any real value, and the others forming the broadcast equivalent of the washington generals.
 
The more teams there are, the more enticing it would be for some billionaire to start a breakaway "super" league. In fact, starting an AFL Superleague is sitting at No. 2 on my To Do List. Number 1 is to make a billion dollars. Will keep you posted.

How long are Collingwood, Essendon and Carlton going to be content to bring in millions of dollars to the AFL only for this money to be used to prop up all the crappy clubs?
 

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