Current Abduction of 4yo Blowholes Shacks WA *Terence Kelly Convicted

[Kurve]

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Current - The Bunker Part 2

 

[Awakening]

How is pleading guilty, a "stunning twist"?



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A stunning twist would be if Mark opened the borders for longer than 5 minutes

 

[BFew]

A stunning twist would be if Mark opened the borders for longer than 5 minutes

An even more stunning twist would be if there was any truth to the reported claim by Esther Mingo.

Cleo kidnapper pleads GUILTY to crime that shocked world

Terence Kelly has admitted he was the man who snatched little Cleo Smith from her isolated tent and then held her captive for 18 days.

www.perthnow.com.au

'Tim Clarke
PerthNow
January 24, 2022 2:01PM

It is also understood that Cleo and her parents Ellie Smith and Jake Gliddon are also not in Carnarvon, having travelled to Perth to begin filming an interview as part of their multi-million dollar media deal.

A family friend of Kelly, Esther Mingo, questioned why the parents of Cleo were not there — and also claimed that the little boy she had known was protecting someone else involved. He needs to open his mouth,” Ms Mingo said.

“Terence has a lot of family in Carnarvon but it is only me who is here."'

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Ms Mingo needs to give any such information to the police. Protecting who? Wasn’t he a loner? It’s vaguely possible someone else had suspicions and has never said anything, and TDK knew they did, but does that make them an accessory? That’s the only kind of “protection” I can think of.

 

[deanc]

How is pleading guilty, a "stunning twist"?



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No idea - best ask this Tim Clarke? Aside from the usual click-bait nonsense, one can only guess the media were hoping TK would plead 'not guilty', therefore protracting the legal process/trial/case, giving them more to write about/speculate/sensationalize etc...?

And if this was somehow a 'stunning twist', I can't imagine what the headline will be if TK admits he had an accomplice (or at least an accessory), which is why I suspect the other charges/s are being adjourned..?

 

[BFew]

No idea - best ask this Tim Clarke?

Probably wasn't even him that came up with the headline, or him that decided it was a good idea to have that headline.

 

[deanc]

Ms Mingo needs to give any such information to the police. Protecting who? Wasn’t he a loner? It’s vaguely possible someone else had suspicions and has never said anything, and TDK knew they did, but does that make them an accessory? That’s the only kind of “protection” I can think of.

It's more than vaguely possible, it's likely! But 'suspicion' of a crime, do not make anyone an accessory, however 'knowledge' of one does, but proving someone had knowledge of TK's actions making them legally complicit, is not that simple - unless there is a related recorded conversation or a written exchange...

 

[Kurve]

What you're implying would make the forthcoming 60 Minutes interview and docuseries extremely tasteless.

60 Mins aren't above suppression orders or sub judice rule.

 

[zedx]

I would like to think that only the parents would be interviewed. I seriously doubt Cleo will physically be on camera being interviewed, as I would image the parents would have consulted doctors regarding ramifications to her mental health. IMO her parents come across as good, caring people and wouldn't allow that anyway. I am happy to see them see them procure lots of money for this, so they can set Cleo and themselves up for life - then dive into obscurity.

 

[BFew]

Here we go again.

World of delusion: Cleo kidnapper’s freaky family fantasy

The disparate life of Terry Kelly — abandoned as a child, then left alone as an adult — had descended into drugs, delusion and dolls.

thewest.com.au

'Tue, 25 January 2022 5:00AM'
'Aboriginal elder, Nyamal man Jonny Mitchell mentored Kelly as a teenager. He described him as a “strange person” who would “switch off” when people tried speaking with him.
He also claimed he used to catch Kelly stealing female clothing and wearing it.'

 

[BFew]

An even more stunning twist would be if there was any truth to the reported claim by Esther Mingo.

Cleo kidnapper pleads GUILTY to crime that shocked world

Terence Kelly has admitted he was the man who snatched little Cleo Smith from her isolated tent and then held her captive for 18 days.

www.perthnow.com.au

'Tim Clarke
PerthNow
January 24, 2022 2:01PM

It is also understood that Cleo and her parents Ellie Smith and Jake Gliddon are also not in Carnarvon, having travelled to Perth to begin filming an interview as part of their multi-million dollar media deal.

A family friend of Kelly, Esther Mingo, questioned why the parents of Cleo were not there — and also claimed that the little boy she had known was protecting someone else involved. He needs to open his mouth,” Ms Mingo said.

“Terence has a lot of family in Carnarvon but it is only me who is here."'

Here's an update today on the reporting of this alleged Esther Mingo claim.
What's reported appears to now be implying that more than one person other than the Terence Kelly, was to "blame".

So many ways this could be interpreted (and misinterpreted).

Cleo’s abductor utters confession WA had waited for

Terence Kelly’s grunted acceptance of guilt brought a rapid conclusion to what had been expected to be a prolonged legal process.

thewest.com.au

'Tue, 25 January 2022 12:12AM'
'a family friend of Kelly, Esther Mingo, who asked loudly why they were not present. “I’m upset, I’m angry for him coming to court,” she said.
She also claimed that Kelly was “taking the blame for everybody” and that he should “open his mouth up” and tell the truth.
Inside court, that is actually what Kelly had done.
Outside court, after that admission, Ms Mingo declined to comment further.'

 

[BFew]

The below article today, implies (if the wording is accurate) that there is more than one additional serious charges that Kelly is facing.
With one of them being the assaulting a police officer one.

Great work by Kelly's lawyer, Kate Turtley-Chappel to assist with getting the kidnapping charge guilty plea this early.

Cleo’s abductor utters confession WA had waited for

Terence Kelly’s grunted acceptance of guilt brought a rapid conclusion to what had been expected to be a prolonged legal process.

thewest.com.au

'And as well as accepting the accolades, a team of detectives since that time has been painstakingly compiling the legal case against Kelly — with a more comprehensive statement of alleged facts provided to him just before Christmas.

His lawyer Kate Turtley-Chappel would have considered those, and talked to Kelly about them, before he entered his plea on Monday.

In court, she said it was very important that Kelly plead to the kidnapping charge as early as possible. That is because his willingness to admit guilt — sparing the prospect of a trial, and the disturbing possibility of Cleo possibly having to give evidence — will secure him a decent discount off his sentence.
https://thewest.com.au/news/cleo-sm...pping-to-terence-kellys-guilty-plea-c-5418573
But other serious charges still hanging over Kelly’s head, including assaulting a police officer in the cells of Carnarvon lock up, will remain hanging for some weeks yet.

Ms Turtley-Chappel said that her next visit with Kelly in Casuarina will be on Tuesday, where she will talk to him again about his legal options, his legal prospects — and the legal pathway from here.'

 

[deanc]

The below article today, implies (if the wording is accurate) that there is more than one additional serious charges that Kelly is facing.
With one of them being the assaulting a police officer one.

Great work by Kelly's lawyer, Kate Turtley-Chappel to assist with getting the kidnapping charge guilty plea this early.

Cleo’s abductor utters confession WA had waited for

Terence Kelly’s grunted acceptance of guilt brought a rapid conclusion to what had been expected to be a prolonged legal process.

thewest.com.au

'And as well as accepting the accolades, a team of detectives since that time has been painstakingly compiling the legal case against Kelly — with a more comprehensive statement of alleged facts provided to him just before Christmas.

His lawyer Kate Turtley-Chappel would have considered those, and talked to Kelly about them, before he entered his plea on Monday.

In court, she said it was very important that Kelly plead to the kidnapping charge as early as possible. That is because his willingness to admit guilt — sparing the prospect of a trial, and the disturbing possibility of Cleo possibly having to give evidence — will secure him a decent discount off his sentence.
https://thewest.com.au/news/cleo-sm...pping-to-terence-kellys-guilty-plea-c-5418573
But other serious charges still hanging over Kelly’s head, including assaulting a police officer in the cells of Carnarvon lock up, will remain hanging for some weeks yet.

Ms Turtley-Chappel said that her next visit with Kelly in Casuarina will be on Tuesday, where she will talk to him again about his legal options, his legal prospects — and the legal pathway from here.'

To summarize those last 3 posts BFew:

a. The media expected/hoped this would be a long legal case - that's now highly unlikely.

b. TK is clearly a man with mental health issues - we already knew/know this.

c. Ms Mingo's ramblings may simply be related to TK not receiving support from friends/community after his mother died. If her comments are in anyway directly related to TK's crimes, police would be pursing this...

Still not even a hint of speculating TK's probable/likely sentence from the media, which I find a little odd...

 

[Flash of power]

How does everyone feel about the 60 minutes special, I so want to watch it, but there was speculation that Cleo would be part of the interview, it seems now that maybe it is just home videos etc and not her on camera, I do not want to watch if she is. Does anyone know?

 

[JackNah_8]

Not sure how I feel about the interview, and if I'll watch it. I'm assuming the parents have spoken to professionals that provided them advice about the interview.

 

[craffles]

Not sure how I feel about the interview, and if I'll watch it. I'm assuming the parents have spoken to professionals that provided them advice about the interview.

I wouldn't assume anything. Max Markson made them shut down shop very quickly and he is an absolute bag of manipulative s**t who will do anything for a dollar

 

[Wombot]

It’s sickens me to think that anyone would even contemplate putting Cleo on camera for the purposes of $ and a TV show. She would have already been interviewed by the expert child witnesses at the child assessment and interview team (Police). Do not poor this poor little girl through this. It would absolutely inhumane.

I’m not so sure. The money will likely help her live a better life. The interview may also dispel rumours and take the pressure of her and the family.

 

[Wombot]

Here we go again.

World of delusion: Cleo kidnapper’s freaky family fantasy

The disparate life of Terry Kelly — abandoned as a child, then left alone as an adult — had descended into drugs, delusion and dolls.

thewest.com.au

'Tue, 25 January 2022 5:00AM'
'Aboriginal elder, Nyamal man Jonny Mitchell mentored Kelly as a teenager. He described him as a “strange person” who would “switch off” when people tried speaking with him.
He also claimed he used to catch Kelly stealing female clothing and wearing it.'

This I believe.

 

[Wombot]

Here we go again.

World of delusion: Cleo kidnapper’s freaky family fantasy

The disparate life of Terry Kelly — abandoned as a child, then left alone as an adult — had descended into drugs, delusion and dolls.

thewest.com.au

'Tue, 25 January 2022 5:00AM'
'Aboriginal elder, Nyamal man Jonny Mitchell mentored Kelly as a teenager. He described him as a “strange person” who would “switch off” when people tried speaking with him.
He also claimed he used to catch Kelly stealing female clothing and wearing it.'

Can someone quote the entire article please?

 

[BFew]

Here we go again.

World of delusion: Cleo kidnapper’s freaky family fantasy

The disparate life of Terry Kelly — abandoned as a child, then left alone as an adult — had descended into drugs, delusion and dolls.

thewest.com.au

'Tue, 25 January 2022 5:00AM'
'Aboriginal elder, Nyamal man Jonny Mitchell mentored Kelly as a teenager. He described him as a “strange person” who would “switch off” when people tried speaking with him.
He also claimed he used to catch Kelly stealing female clothing and wearing it.'

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

I’m not so sure. The money will likely help her live a better life. The interview may also dispel rumours and take the pressure of her and the family.

Interviewing the parents is fine. A four year old who has been through that ordeal shouldn’t be interviewed by any reporter. I’m an ex-detective, worked at the child abuse squad. It disgusts me the thought of anyone except specialist child interviewers interviewing Cleo.

 

[deanc]

Interviewing the parents is fine. A four year old who has been through that ordeal shouldn’t be interviewed by any reporter. I’m an ex-detective, worked at the child abuse squad. It disgusts me the thought of anyone except specialist child interviewers interviewing Cleo.

Concur, but I think you'll find the suggestion that CS will be interviewed on TV is just negative media spin from Ch.9's competitors..?
'The possibility that'-'It is rumoured'-'Reports suggest', are just some of the unconvincing spin used to portray this.

Also assuming the best case, whereas CS simply recalls her experience as just a 'strange adventure', why would anyone risk changing this memory..? And to be blunt from a media perspective this is of little value, in the same manner that CS would be an unreliable witness in court.

If however this 60 minutes exclusive does include interviewing a 4yo on TV and this is somehow a deal breaker, then let the media grubs keep their f***ing money - but I seriously doubt this is the case...

 

[BFew]

I'm a bit shocked this is going to air before sentencing on the kidnapping charge and Kelly yet to face the remaining charges but with that in mind, just further reinforces that 60 Minutes won't have access to Cleo at all in any setting, for any reason.

So are WA Police (reportedly).

 

[Kurve]

Kurve - it's highly unlikely Ch.9 will air a 60 minutes exclusive without including all the dramatic details of the abduction and the 18 day captivity of CS, some/most of which will likely be revealed during the sentencing hearing..?
One also assumes interviewing the parents will include discussion/questions arising from these details.

There might be things the parents knew and couldn't say up until the time Cleo was found that can be revealed but they'd need to be real careful and I won't be surprised if the DPP pulls the plug on it.

The only plausible broadcasting reason for going to air prior to sentencing would be if there is a planned Part 1 and 2 of this exclusive - possible...

Possible .. maybe.

 

[deanc]

There might be things the parents knew and couldn't say up until the time Cleo was found that can be revealed but they'd need to be real careful and I won't be surprised if the DPP pulls the plug on it.

Parents knowledge prior to CS's rescue - I'd actually be surprised if it was much more than what the media/we knew. Conversely, post rescue, purely via CS's recollections they would now know nearly everything, but would be under strict instructions not to share this with anyone prior to legal proceedings - obstruction of justice etc.
I also think we can safely assume as part of the sentencing hearing, victim impact statements will be submitted. Accordingly, it's likely both sides of the courtroom have formally requested Ch.9 not publish/air any related content prior to the hearing.
Of course this doesn't prevent the general media, Ch.9's competitors specifically, speculating otherwise...

 

[Kurve]

A West Australian police officer who led the discovery of missing four-year-old Cleo Smith, spearheaded a serial killer’s undoing 23 years on and honed a sniper murder investigation has become a national hero in Australia Day honours.

Detective Superintendent Rod Wilde steered the 140-officer Taskforce Rodia which swooped on the home of Cleo’s abductor in the early hours of November 3 last year.

Cop who found Cleo, solved Claremont case and caught bikie sniper honoured

Detective Superintendent Rod Wilde has become a national hero in the Australia Day honours.

www.watoday.com.au