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Harris Andrews 23 disposals, 11 marks and a goal. Not bad going.

Good height and reasonable athleticism, versatility to play a number of positions. Seems like a good prospect.
 
Ironmonger said:
How much faith can we invest in those stats? I see one player managed two marks, one kick, no handballs..and was one of the best on ground apparently.
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I assume you're talking about I.Hay. 2 kicks ( 1 ineffective) 2 marks and a tackle...we have to remember the coaches pick the best in these TAC cup games. He might have played a role for the team? Maybe his attack on the ball on some instances was flagged by the coach? I know it seems a bit silly but coaches have rarely picked their "best" players based on pure stats.
 
Reardo said:
Next generation on show next week with the U14 State Championships at Burpengary, quite a few Academy boys will be playing no doubt. There is a kid by the name of Adam Peak who will be playing for Brisbane South East who looks to be a bit of a star in the making, plays for Morningside. I've only seen him play a few times but he reminds me of a young Luke Hodge, very impressive. In the same side is Casey Voss, can't get over how much he moves across the ground like his father (to be expected I guess). I'm looking forward to seeing some future Lions take their next step, should be some quality footy.
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Was watching a local game between coorparoo and morningside where peak and voss were both playing but i saw a young player for coorparoo by the name of darcy marsh, the way he moved and read the ball was amazing, he is one to look for in the near future
 

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I am just doing the BF phantom practice run and have taken Hammelmann at 20. I thought I would share my write up on here:

Matt Hammelmann 197cm 86kgs
Hammelmann is a Lions academy player and I would suggest is highly likely to cost us our second round pick. He fits our needs to a tee and its hard to see us passing on him. He is an AIS member for this year and despite some injuries issues along the way has shown enough to whet people's appetites I think. Physically he has great size and is starting to fill out. His upper half is lagging a bit behind the lower half but by the time he is finished he will be a very solid unit. Athletically he has good pace and endurance but probably not in the elite for his size in either. Certainly I have no concern over his athletic ability and I would expect him to test in the top quarter of key positions across the board.
One area where he is absolutely elite is with the ball on the ground. I don't know if I have seen a junior player his size so good below the knees and his ability to pick it up and go is going to be a nice weapon in his arsenal going forward. Above his head his hands are good but not elite. He judges the ball very nicely in the air and takes a lot of marks. He seems to have overcome his reluctance to crash packs that he showed last year but his contested marking could still use some work. His hands are not the steel traps some are in contested marking situations. I see him as a CHF at AFL level and he has shown some really nice ability to get up the ground and link up with his marking. There have been several games where his opponents have just not been able to go with him.
His leading patterns are as good as anyone in this draft and he times his leads to dangerous spots exceptionally well. He seems to get separation easily and has a great feel for where and when to lead. He generates a lot of chances for himself.
His skills around the ground are very good for a KP and he identifies and hits his targets well. If he goes back you can rely on him to be solid coming out of defence. His goal kicking can be inconsistent and there are games where he struggles to get it between the big sticks. For the Champs he kicked 7 goals and 8 behinds across his three games and a lot of those behinds were from gettable shots.
I watched the game against Tassie and it was hard not to be enormously impressed with his performance. He had 16 disposals, 12 marks and kicked 4 goals and 2 behinds in a dominant display. He lead great inside 50 to generate shots but was also up on the wing looking like Nick Reiwoldt. It is worth noting that he had another really good game against the Rebels in the TAC on the weekend with 15 disposals, 10 marks on the way to kicking 5 goals (or 4 from other sources) and 1 behind. Those are the good games but there have been quite a few this year where he has been very quiet especially against senior company in the NEAFL. I think a lot of the issues are between the ears for him. Once he feels that he belongs and has the edge he can dominate but if he is a bit unsure he is just not a factor. I think he will be fine in the long run but I do think it might take him a few years to assert himself at AFL level and be a real factor.
There is some chance that he could end up playing at the other end of the ground. I watched the AIS v Collingwood ressies game from earlier in the year and he was clearly the best KPD that the AIS had matched up as he was on Corey Gault. He read the play coming in very nicely and showed good judgement when to punch and when to mark and although he often played a step off he found the body when he had to. I was impressed with his performance at that end of the ground given he has little experience there.
If I was going to make a comparison to anyone it would be to Chris Dawes. Like Dawes he can provide a good target inside 50 but also get up teh ground and be a nice target to help move the ball forward. I do not see him being a Coleman contender but he would give you a reliable option up forward and if he was your number 2 target you are going to be in a strong place.
 
Quigley said:
Matt Hammelmann 197cm 86kgs
...there have been quite a few this year where he has been very quiet especially against senior company in the NEAFL. I think a lot of the issues are between the ears for him. Once he feels that he belongs and has the edge he can dominate but if he is a bit unsure he is just not a factor.
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Good description from what I've seen of him in the ressies. Barely knew he was out there. Not saying he can't make it - just from what I have seen of him (playing mostly against men) he's done nothing to impress.
 
From what I understand, he is coming from a pretty lean build and only just starting to bulk up a little. I can imagine it taking a little while to sink in that he's getting bigger and more physically competitive with men. The other attributes all sound pretty encouraging though.
 
whatboutbob said:
Good description from what I've seen of him in the ressies. Barely knew he was out there. Not saying he can't make it - just from what I have seen of him (playing mostly against men) he's done nothing to impress.
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I haven't really seen many of the reserves games. What sort of role have they tended to play him in? I get the feeling from the writeups that our listed talls would usually occupy the main KPP slots, and the top-ups just sort of slot in around them. Does that sound fair?
 
whatboutbob said:
Good description from what I've seen of him in the ressies. Barely knew he was out there. Not saying he can't make it - just from what I have seen of him (playing mostly against men) he's done nothing to impress.
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How would he compare with Boyd, Patton et al when they've been playing NEAFL I wonder?
 

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The Flying Belgian said:
How would he compare with Boyd, Patton et al when they've been playing NEAFL I wonder?
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It's a good question. Jesse Hogan dominated in the VFL at the same age but he has a much bigger frame than Hammelmann. Patton had the size and he would have played well against anyone you would have thought, not sure about Boyd. That's the only thing that is a bit of a worry with Hammelmann, plays really well in his age group but as far as I know he hasn't had that same impact playing NEAFL. Hopefully it's all between his ears as Quigs said and when he bulks up a bit he'll start to have a bit more confidence and sense of belonging playing against men.
 
The Flying Belgian said:
How would he compare with Boyd, Patton et al when they've been playing NEAFL I wonder?
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Fair point. Have seen Patton get owned in the ressies. Less than stellar down-field performance hasn't helped him either.
 
POBT said:
Doesn't appear that Dawson played on the weekend.

I notice that Tickner was named to play for Aspley. Last I saw, he was running around with UQ.
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Tickner has played the last 5 games with Aspley and previous to that, 2 with the lions reserves including amongst the best players against the GC Suns. He is playing as well as any of the other Academy boys but seems to be largely forgotton. He did play earlier with UQ after recovering from a rolled ankle but was a class above most of them.
 
Good work Quigley. I must say I thought Hammelmann's speed would be in the elite category for a KPP. He looks quick and is generally able to get a yard or two on his opponent on the lead.
 

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