Autopsy Adelaide 63 dftd Dogs 26

[doggies ftw]

On thursday night - "wow happy with that team, thats a good balanced side"

On friday night - "the match committee have lost the plot, sack bev"

****ing morons

 

[Mr. Walker]

What’s with the guy who did the on ground interviews on theChannel 7 coverage? Is it in his contract that he can only interview Adelaide players?

 

[King Harold]

What happened at half time ?
Pretty obvious we had put the cue in the rack 5 mins in.

Williams is becoming a great player , was outstanding again last night.
Ditto Cordy.
Boyd pretty good.
Macrae ,, now just a super player , don't know where we would be without him.

Hugely disappointing:
Wallis ,
Dahl , that kicking
Hunter , ditto.
Dale
Rough
Dunkley
Crozier , looks only depth and that's being kind.
Daniel ,

Seems to me some are just not up for the fight in a hostile environment.

 

[lachy]

Agree with you Lachy

However you know I'm not a fan of sacrificing today for tomorrow, and think the best way to build for next season is to start doing the things that need to be done now not next year.

Key things to do:
Pick teams on form, not potential. - How did Honeychurch get dropped before other players in worse form, especially for a wet weather game?

Assess our coaching group performance not just the players' performances, e.g. Where did we screw up tactically, and let's try to avoid screwing up again next week!

Be absolutely filthy about losing this game.

Actually what you are suggesting Proff will help today while building for tommorrow. Agree with team selection you suggest and in another thread im the past am very strong on experience or appropriate bodies for conditions being selected with younger players to fast track development as well as provide greater opportunity to win today.

Form has enough kids playing today for example Richards and Naughton before he was injured. But with the conditions Honey for Roughy was a no brainer . In fact a cooked English was in better form than the other rucks other than Boyd who is actually even now one of our better forwards never left there to develop

Have also posted before you cam develop one maybe 2 assistant coaches by changing their roles, not everyone of them like we did where now we have all assistants under scrutiny.

So agree fully fix now and that will build towards next year

 

[lachy]

I’d say serviceable at best tonight. Dominated in hit outs when that’s all the ruckmen were really offering tonight. Jacobs certainly helped Gibbs game. Not much movement around the ground either (hence I think English would’ve been better).

Not so much better but would have allowed Boyd forward to direct the ball to crummers in aerial contests which in invaluable in the wet. He didn't need to kick goals just provide directed contest forward. The ball was in there enough

And no Macrae is not overrated

 

[lachy]

On thursday night - "wow happy with that team, thats a good balanced side"

On friday night - "the match committee have lost the plot, sack bev"

******* morons

Just needed a slight change for conditions as they were presented. Went in with 1 tall to many in pouring rain. Moronic is not adjusting

 

[Mofra]

Only saw the last quarter, by god was the rest of the game that bad?

We must take quality of disposal by foot into account at the next draft. We're out of contention this year so we need to find out about our list, who can perform and who can't. Thinking there will be a higher turnover than normal at the end of this year.

 

[ringa5]

Knee jerk central.

Most of tonight's problems can be pinned to a young, lightweight, inexperienced team playing stupid in wet weather. Yes we have some duds in the team, but these calls for mass, wholesale changes in the playing list and backroom staff are hilarious and cringe-inducing. We won the flag in 2016, lost some players to retirement and injury, now find ourselves with the youngest team in the comp, and shock horror, we muck up a game in wet weather.

I mean jesus christ, calm down.

Yes we have no wet weather conditioning
****ing HELL not the end of the world.
We play at Etihad

 

[DelRe]

And no Macrae is not overrated

I said it would be controversial. I also said slightly. Overall I just don’t rate him quite as highly as some in the various threads but that shouldn’t be read as flipping to me saying he’s somehow bad. I just think Bont and Libba are better more damaging players and I’m not fully convinced opposition sides go into games worrying about being beaten by Macrae in the same way they would Bont or Libba.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Yeesh. So toxic.

Key points:
1. We didn't play wet weather football
2. We consistently failed to convert opportunities that we needed to and should have

The group needs more experience with wet weather footy (both tactically and in practice) and we desperately need to find a way to improve our conversion. Unfortunately I lean more towards it being a personnel issue.

First spots available for someone to grab: Dale, Crozier, Roughead, Dunkley.

I struggle to read more than that into that game. Some serious jerking of the knee and catastrophising in here.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

Just needed a slight change for conditions as they were presented. Went in with 1 tall to many in pouring rain. Moronic is not adjusting

We dropped 2 talls and brought 2 in. We were far too short last week
Adelaide fielded a taller side than us last night.

Our kicking for goal and overuse of handballs was the issue last night

 

[stefcep]

On thursday night - "wow happy with that team, thats a good balanced side"

On friday night - "the match committee have lost the plot, sack bev"

******* morons

We dropped 2 talls and brought 2 in. We were far too short last week
Adelaide fielded a taller side than us last night.

Our kicking for goal and overuse of handballs was the issue last night

Kicking for goal=player problem. Here's looking at you Mr Hunter.

30% to blame

Overuse of the handball-Beveridge problem.

70% to blame.

Playing in the wet isn't rocket surgery. Even the under 11's know to get in front, chest mark and kick long. And wear long sleeves. From the first 10 minutes of the game Beveridge should have got the word out to cut out the hand balls.

Instead it went on for 4 quarters with two dozen players around the ball giving off 30 cm handballs. This loss is on Beveridge. Got schooled big time.

 

[W W Biscuit]

One thing about our poor disposal, and maybe it's stating the bleeding obvious...we are so one-paced at the moment that we really struggle to get any separation on our opponents at all. Even our decent ball-users are rarely able to get in the clear often enough to do real damage. We have JJ, and.....I think Richards in time. Dahlhaus seems to have mysteriously lost a yard. There's almost no-one throwing the opposition's structure into disarray by breaking lines. I think at least some of our disposal issues would improve if we were able to address this first. It was certainly there to see versus Adelaide last night.

 

[footyfan000001]

Bring that effort and intensity Friday night against the pies and anything can happen! Just need to convert!

 

[bresker]

Tom Boyd didn’t even attempt to take marks last night but just slap the ball two handed when it came near him. Possibly a good ploy in the conditions but not a great look or particularly effective ploy. I thought some of his second efforts were great. And while Jacobs is good and battle hardened he easily outrucked Tom and seemed to have plenty of space with no direct opponent.

Cordy improved as the game wore on but in the early tussle some of his turnovers really hurt us.

Bailey Williams is a boss and just stood the f**k up. Sam Power needs to find such players in the 40s & 50s, that’s where a recruiter earns his coin.

I thought Caleb’s tackles were starting to stick which bodes well for the future. He was easily shrugged off in the past - for totally explicable reasons. Not his fault But I’m disappointed a player so balanced & creative couldn’t get involved. I thought this game would suit him.

Wallis looked so slow that at times he appeared to be going backwards. A journeyman plodder. He would be Ok in the Colac Cup but not Flemington on a wet track. Not the penetronator’s friend.

Whisper it, but Lin Jong would have been a far better inclusion than Roughead or Crozier.

 

[stefcep]

One thing about our poor disposal, and maybe it's stating the bleeding obvious...we are so one-paced at the moment that we really struggle to get any separation on our opponents at all. Even our decent ball-users are rarely able to get in the clear often enough to do real damage. We have JJ, and.....I think Richards in time. Dahlhaus seems to have mysteriously lost a yard. There's almost no-one throwing the opposition's structure into disarray by breaking lines. I think at least some of our disposal issues would improve if we were able to address this first. It was certainly there to see versus Adelaide last night.

We play a very congested closed in game. That lets us lock it in the oppositions forward 50 for long periods. BUT too many players are too close to each other. When they receive it, there is always an opponent sweating on them. Hence no player is ever in the clear when they receive. Shots on goal are under pressure. Low conversion rate for entries.

 

[stefcep]

Bring that effort and intensity Friday night against the pies and anything can happen! Just need to convert!

that's the story of the last 3 years really.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Don't know where to start really

Same issues really

We all knew the last 3 weeks were against the bottom sides and we barely won convincingly

We have too many dumb footballers
No smart forwards.
Too slow
Defence gives up easy goals

No point complaining when we know the issues

And why do we always struggle playing interstate ??

 

[#1 Dogs Fan]

Why is every body having a dig at Dahl and applauding Cordy.

When the game was on the balance in the first half. Cordy was teriible he made 3 stupid turn overs by hand and foot which resulted in 3 goals.

Dahl was actually really clean and looked dangerously quick in the wet, hed a hand in 3 or 4 scoring assists that were all behinds.

 

[Libba39]

I don't feel all doom and gloom today, just disappointed that some players didn't step up.

Dale
Daniel
Wallis to a lesser extent

All seemed to not be able to influence the contest.

Cordy tries but the lack of depth on his kicking was so noticeable.

On the positive side i loved the application of Tom Boyd, and Bailey Williams is a star. Wood really showed leadership too.

 

[BWFC]

I can't believe the rubbish I'm reading on here this morning. I thought our efforts were good last night in very trying conditions. They seemed to have had a bit of luck last night, the ball bounced their way. We were in control of the game for large parts but couldn't convert. I feel like they got a couple junk time goals, a couple cheap frees that resulted in goals and we squandered opportunities. The scoreboard want a true reflection of how close the contest was. They're a top six team and we're a developing team. We're not far off matching it with the top teams.

The next couple of years will be very exciting. All of this crap about coaching and list management is silly.

 

[Proffessor]

Don't understand the focus on Dale and his lack of tackle stats from last night.

A lack of tackling from guys like Dale wasn't why we lost.

A lack of skill and polish around goals was a much bigger factor, and the response some people are calling for is that one of the few blokes in our side who possesses these qualities should be dropped?

Kind of like people calling for Honeychurch to go last week due to his lack of polish, and then this week bemoaning losing the battle around the ball due to a lack of intensity and effort.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Don't understand the focus on Dale and his lack of tackle stats from last night.

A lack of tackling from guys like Dale wasn't why we lost.

A lack of skill and polish around goals was a much bigger factor, and the response some people are calling for is that one of the few blokes in our side who possesses these qualities should be dropped?

Kind of like people calling for Honeychurch to go last week due to his lack of polish, and then this week bemoaning losing the battle around the ball due to a lack of intensity and effort.

I'm not reading into the tackle stats, Proff. I think Dale is under pressure because of a more worrying inability to impose himself on any contest whatsoever and a growing trend of offering very little without the ball. I don't deny that Dale has many of the attributes that we require at present, but this season he's not winning the ball enough and not offering enough without ball in hand to justify their poor influence. I still do like him as a player and think he will develop into a good player, but I'm not sure he's doing enough right now.

With that said - he's probably saved by the fact that the cupboard is bare for replacements (as with Dunkley). He really needs to lift, though.

 

[WIGNEY]

Not sure if i imagined it but it seemed the crows always had at least one player 15-25m off the pack on the boundary line side. Countless times the ball spilt wide and said player mopped up...any danger we man that bloke up..

Have to say alot of melodrama and overreaction in here.....just need some natural Forwards....Stringer/N.Brown types without baggage..a Paul Hudson kind of guy or two...an upgraded Tory Dickson. Christ, even Jason Watts would be okay at this stage.

 

[Proffessor]

I can't believe the rubbish I'm reading on here this morning. I thought our efforts were good last night in very trying conditions. They seemed to have had a bit of luck last night, the ball bounced their way. We were in control of the game for large parts but couldn't convert. I feel like they got a couple junk time goals, a couple cheap frees that resulted in goals and we squandered opportunities. The scoreboard want a true reflection of how close the contest was. They're a top six team and we're a developing team. We're not far off matching it with the top teams.

The next couple of years will be very exciting. All of this crap about coaching and list management is silly.

We are a recent premier, and should not consider ourselves a 'developing' team.

We had a great chance to get our season back on track and we blew it.

Feeling pissed off about losing games like that isn't just understandable, it is required to be a consistently successful team.