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The house gets eerily quiet in a blackout too, you don't realise the amount of cumulative noise emitted by the fridge, tv even when off, etc.
With the wind roaring at 100 kph like jet engines outside, im sure you wouldnt miss the fridge noise.
 

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Glad we have great weather here in Victoria, don't know how you South Aussies survive.
 
F***wit tories using this to sink the boot into renewables. This is short term pain for long term gain.

Especially when it's based on a falsehood to begin with.

Blows me away that Abbott spent years talking about "intergenerational theft" when that's exactly what they're doing by ignoring climate change :rolleyes:
 

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Especially when it's based on a falsehood to begin with.

Blows me away that Abbott spent years talking about "intergenerational theft" when that's exactly what they're doing by ignoring climate change :rolleyes:
One of my best mates is an aforementioned f***wit tory, and he was on the phone to me within an hour of the lights going out telling me how great this was going to be, and how he was going to try to make as much of this as he could.
 
SA weather: No link between blackout and renewable energy, experts say

By political reporter Matthew Doran
Posted about 2 hours ago


Linking the statewide blackout in South Australia with the state's heavy reliance on renewable energy is unfounded, energy industry experts say.

A severe storm caused the entire state to go dark yesterday afternoon, following serious damage to more than 20 transmission lines.

That infrastructure failure put extra strain on the interconnector system that links the South Australian electricity grid with the east coast — and tripped safeguards which shut down the power supply to the state.

In the early hours of the blackout, and before many details of the power blackout were known, Federal Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg and South Australian Senator Nick Xenophon mentioned concerns about the state's reliance on renewable energy sources and its effect on the stability of the power supply.

Mr Frydenberg highlighted the underlying cause of the blackout was the weather.

South Australia has the highest rate of renewable energy in the country, with a fraction over 40 per cent of the state's power supply generated from sources such as wind and solar farms.

Earlier this week, the Grattan Institute released a report detailing the pressure high uptake in renewables had put on the state's wholesale power prices, and how it was being viewed as a test case for the rest of the nation.

But the report's author, Tony Wood, said the blackout was as a result of a particularly violent storm and it was usual for a system to shut down to protect itself from further damage.

"My understanding, at least at the moment, is there's no evidence to suggest these two issues are related," Mr Wood said.

"There's no evidence to suggest this was caused by too much wind power, or the dependence on wind power, or anything else, or would've been any different if any of the power stations that had been shut down earlier this year had still been operating.

"If you've got a wind farm or a coal-fired power station at the end of a transmission line, and that system either is taken out by a storm or is forced to shut down to protect itself from a storm, it doesn't matter what the energy source is."

There are two interconnector power lines between South Australia and the eastern states, but Mr Wood said there was no indication having more links would have prevented the issue.

"When this event has occurred, it's created a fault in the system which has caused the generation to trip offline," the Clean Energy Council's Tom Butler said.

"It's separate to the interconnector entirely.

"This is a one-in-a-50 year, almost-unprecedented event for the state that couldn't have been prevented or foreseen."

Mr Butler said the Snowtown wind farm, north of Adelaide, was actually helping to prop up the state's power supply ahead of gas power stations as the network was gradually brought back online.

Labor's assistant spokesman for climate change, Pat Conroy, told AM it was premature to link the blackout to renewables.

"The South Australian Government has made the point that even if the coal-fired power station that was recently closed down was still operating, it would not have been able to supply power to the state," he said.

"This was a failure of the transmission network, and it didn't matter what sort of fuel was feeding into the grid, power was not able to flow, so this is mere opportunism."

SA an example for other states

Mr Wood said the investigation into exactly what happened would help other states and territories plan for significant weather events hitting power infrastructure, even though South Australia's network was quite different.

"South Australia itself is a more concentrated grid city network than say, for example, Queensland which is more strung out.

"You could imagine a situation in which a city in Queensland, such as Townsville and Cairns could have been affected by a similar freak storm, which took out all the power in that city, it doesn't necessarily mean that would cascade through all the way down to Brisbane.

"These systems are designed with a lot of redundancy, a lot of protected systems. At the end of the day, the main issue is to ensure the safety of people and the safety of the system is protected by the system itself automatically shutting down."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-...n-blackout-and-renewables-expert-says/7887052

Storms like this are only going to become more common and severe as global warming gets worse and more irreversible.

If this event leads to a push against renewable energy, the irony readings will be off the ****ing charts.
 
Even though I like that article a lot more than the Fairfax one last night, I'm confused as to when hydroelectric power stopped being considered renewable. 90% of Tasmania's power is hydroelectric.
 
Even though I like that article a lot more than the Fairfax one last night, I'm confused as to when hydroelectric power stopped being considered renewable. 90% of Tasmania's power is hydroelectric.
It's renewable; but the damage done by dams to natural habits is usually pretty considerable.
 
Even though I like that article a lot more than the Fairfax one last night, I'm confused as to when hydroelectric power stopped being considered renewable. 90% of Tasmania's power is hydroelectric.
Perhaps not this year, they ran down their hydro storage and had to fire up a gas power station. Then the Basslink went down and they had an energy crisis.
 
Can we start a tote on the number of murders tonight? I reckon between 3-4.
Youre an idiot...

No power 15 hrs
Lucked out, no trees down on my block
Some friends down south didn't have as much luck
Worse to come

Everyone in vic get ready (insert moronic dumb ass vic joke)
Winds coming
Transmission towers completely bent in half touching the ground
Be safe
 

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Youre an idiot...

No power 15 hrs
Lucked out, no trees down on my block
Some friends down south didn't have as much luck
Worse to come

Everyone in vic get ready (insert moronic dumb ass vic joke)
Winds coming
Transmission towers completely bent in half touching the ground
Be safe

:$
 
I don't use the ' on the ipad if it doesn't auto spell it
U know what it means
I know what it means
Everyone knows what it means
I couldve said your

I'll go and check my property and see if my neighbors need anything
You can get your bets going

Moron
 

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