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The Crows have broken the drought.
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Unless the Crows can beat the Hawks tonight
Cue new thread: "Hawthorn's decline"
As I have said, I dont think the crows are as bad as the 0-13 record, not the 3-13 record suggests.Time for thread to be renamed to "Adelaide's rise"
But seriously though, imagine being smacked by 2020 Crows lol
Lost to carlton in 2001 by a point and also lost to the saints and cats by 2-3 goals each i think and all 3 of those losses were at home....Unless the Crows can beat the Hawks tonight (they might have a shot against the Giants) but after that it would seem likely they'll be the first VFL/AFL to go winless since Fitzroy in 1964 (good omen)?
Whilst they've gotten progressively worse I don't think they're the worst wooden spoon team I've seen. Obviously, Melbourne in 2013 is the worst (and even then we finished 17th), which shows you how bad the Giants were in their second season.
Then everyone always invokes Fitzroy's final season to compare how bad a team is going, which terrible as they were is not fair considering their predicament at the time.
Adelaide this season remind of Freo in 2001 a bit. That season Freo lost the season opener to Carlton by 1pt at Subiaco. From there they lost some tight games between 3-4 goals, then Drum got sacked midseason and they started getting walloped, but ended up winning a couple of games including against the Hawks who nearly made the GF that year.
I've seen many worse Freo sides than that one. The Crows this year are obviously transitioning and lost their first game which was very winnable, another against Essendon where they bottled about 4 chances in the last three mins. Basically, they've lost confidence and forgotten how to win. But I dont believe they are such a bad team. Not as bad as their winless record indicates.
Lost to carlton in 2001 by a point and also lost to the saints and cats by 2-3 goals each i think and all 3 of those losses were at home....
So you have seen many Worse freo sides than that 2001 side? Really? name which years then.
While you certainly cleaned up at the trade table for Wingard, I have no doubt that in an ideal world you'd have kept Polec and Wingard. Every club loses the occasional player they'd like to keep, whatever, but I don't think Port can pretend that either was truly on Port's terms. That's especially true with Polec IMO.
Says a few things.
Played few draftees when going well in 2017 for instance.
Quality of draftees since has been poor.
Draftees now being thrown to the wolves in a poor team.
Ah all the wooden spoon sides.Statistically, there are plenty - to name a few -
1995 Fitzroy 2 wins 58%
1996 Fitzroy 1 win 49%
2011 Gold Coast 3 wins 56%
2012 GWS 2 wins 46%
2013 GWS 1 win at 50%
2013 Melbourne 2 wins 54%
2016 Essendon* 3 wins 61%
2017 Brisbane 3 wins 61%
Compare those to Freo 2001 - 2 wins @72%
If we beat Richmond (unlikely) and West Coast beat North, we will not have the wooden spoon. Pick 1 is not completely guaranteed yet.IF the season had 22 games the Crows would have missed the wooden spoon and pick 1. glad it ends this weekend. Pick 1 in ours.
2013 South Australia championsI am happy to be proved wrong, but my suspicion is that is the exception not the norm.
As I said, that was only my suspicion, was happy to be proved wrong. We don't appear to have as many draftees as other states though despite that success at under 18 carnivals each year. Why do you think this might be?2013 South Australia champions
SA def. NSW/ACT by 47pts
SA def. QLD by 100pts
SA def. VicC by 34pts
SA def. VicM by 3pts
SA def. WA by 10pts
2014 South Australia champions
SA def. WA by 31pts
SA def. VicC by 22pts
SA def. WA by 5pts
VicM def. SA by 14pts
SA def. VicC by 63pts
SA def. VicM by 9pts
2015 Victoria Country champions
WA def. SA by 1pt
SA def. VicM by 25pts
SA def. WA by 73pts
VicC def. SA by 28pts
VicC def. SA by 11pts
VicM def. SA by 5pts
2016 Victoria Metro champions
SA def. Allies by 44pts
SA def. WA by 37pts
VicM def. SA by 3pts
SA def. VicC by 11pts
2017 Victoria Metro champions
WA def. SA by 1pt
SA def. Allies by 51pts
VicM def. SA by 67pts
SA def. VicC by 46pts
2018 South Australia champions
SA def. VicC by 27pts
SA def. WA by 89pts
SA def. Allies by 24pts
SA def. VicM by 55pts
2019 Western Australia champions
SA def. WA by 11pts
VicM def. SA by 17pts
VicC def. SA by 1pt
SA def. Allies by 17pts
Record over past 7 years
VicC 6-3 +163
VicM 4-5 -14
WA 7-2 +254
Allies 4-0 +136
NSW/ACT 1-0 +47
Qld 1-0 +100
I cherry picked this period, because before this Im pretty sure SA sucked (I didnt go looking though, I might be wrong there)As I said, that was only my suspicion, was happy to be proved wrong. We don't appear to have as many draftees as other states though despite that success at under 18 carnivals each year. Why do you think this might be?
If we beat Richmond (unlikely) and West Coast beat North, we will not have the wooden spoon. Pick 1 is not completely guaranteed yet.
either of you actually want the spoon?IF the season had 22 games the Crows would have missed the wooden spoon and pick 1. glad it ends this weekend. Pick 1 in ours.
If winning the spoon means we get a generational talent in the draft, and win another flag before them, who do you think will have the last laugh. No guarantee that Port will win the flag yet this year. They have only beaten 1 of the other 3 sides in the top 4.either of you actually want the spoon?
Do you really want to be reminded from Port fans in which SA team got the Spoon 1st?
Well I do live in SA, and yes I did read the sunday mail a couple of weeks back and saw A lot of SA talent that might get picked up.If winning the spoon means we get a generational talent in the draft, and win another flag before them, who do you think will have the last laugh. No guarantee that Port will win the flag yet this year. They have only beaten 1 of the other 3 sides in the top 4.
Only problem is this year is the best talent in the draft is academy zoned to the Western Bulldogs.
I have a feeling that you are right about that. We need to have a greater focus on players that can develop in to the future.I cherry picked this period, because before this Im pretty sure SA sucked (I didnt go looking though, I might be wrong there)
I think there was an inferoirity complex where we would pick the best team to win there and then, we'd go for the average players with mature bodies who at that age stood out, but were close to their ceilling while the other sides always selected on potential.
If the SANFL changed their philosophy, we'd be a worse team, but we could find some diamonds in the rough here and there.
Do you not pick the best talent available at pick 1?Well I do live in SA, and yes I did read the sunday mail a couple of weeks back and saw A lot of SA talent that might get picked up.
You really want that academy zone talent from the dogs?
Because heres what will happen, You guys will select him. Dogs will match the bid and get him. You might as get The tall ruck/forward From west Adelaide anyway.
Saying that. I am sure theres other SANFL talent the crows are looking at too.
To me pick 1 is overrated. Its not going to single handedly turn the club around. Your picks of 1, 11 (If GWS finish 9th) 20 and 29 will help your club immensely 4-5 years down the track when all 4 picks are 22-24 years old.Do you not pick the best talent available at pick 1?
If we don't, I can assure you North will.
Not only that, on recent history, the Crows don't tend to pick local. This has cost them by the way, and is something I have been critical of.
Pick 1 when used wisely can go some way towards turning around your club Riewoldt, Hodge, though I will acknowledge it is not the be all and end all. We will have a strong hand after this draft has finished. I notice you have not included a compo pick for Brad Crouch, who I believe is gone. Also, if the rumours about Rory Atkins going to GCS on a 5 year deal are true, that would possibly give us another band 2 compo pick.To me pick 1 is overrated. Its not going to single handedly turn the club around. Your picks of 1, 11 (If GWS finish 9th) 20 and 29 will help your club immensely 4-5 years down the track when all 4 picks are 22-24 years old.
Yeah we can go back to 2007 when your mob took Dangerfield over Brad Ebert. Dangerfield has been very good for both Crows and Geelong. Brad Ebert isnt as good as Dangerfield but still is a solid player.
2008 you chose Phil Davis from North Adelaide but technically isnt South Australian but born in Canberra. You could of Got ryan Schoemakers who was an injury prone but solid Swingman as CHF/CHB. But you at least got compo for Davis when he fled to GWS.
then in 2009 your team chose Talia at pick 13 and Gunston at pick 29. No SA player was as good as those 2 between picks 14 and 28.
I am actually a South Adelaide fan in the AFL and I hope both of these blokes do get picked up by the crows. Both are mids as well and I have seen them both play.
Theres at least 3 guys at Woodville West torrens, 2 guys at North and 2 at Glenelg I expect to get drafted. Hell there are a couple of crows players that can be picked at Father-son and tyson edwards son is one of them
They’ve already won 3either of you actually want the spoon?
Do you really want to be reminded from Port fans in which SA team got the Spoon 1st?