List Mgmt. AFC - 2014 Drafting and Trading

[CrowHop]

Despite protestations to the contrary, Gwilt and Robinson would be an upgrade on LT and LJ anyway.

and that's his we should look at it. Handy pick ups that cost f all, but not quite the guns we need.

 

[crowsup]

C'mon Alex, I like that you are a realist, but you're putting the horse way before the cart. If this trade period finishes and we've done nothing then I'm sure most of the board will be with you in tearing shreds off the club.

But doing it now achieves nothing.

I thought it was 'putting the cart before the horse' was what Alex is doing. But I can stand corrected.

 

[Footypie32]

Middle of the road trades, mid table finished, mid round draft picks.

I must have missed them.

I'm going to let this go, because it's not going anywhere, but it must be a horrible way to live your life.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I admire your passion but would like if we could save any negativity until after trade week and free agency is finished. The past few years we have been quite proactive in trade week with the Crouch brothers and Eddie Betts (particularly considering our draft sanctions). I think Noble has the runs on the board to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Now in the meantime lets speculate away and have a bit of fun for a couple of weeks. If we fail at trade week, by all means criticise until your hearts content

With all due respect - then someone else says "hold the negative until after the NAB cup as the pre season has just started", then it's "hold the negative until after the first few rounds" and then - "hold the negativity as we are still a mathematical chance to make the 8" and then it's - hold the negativity until after trade week and the cycle begins again.

 

[CrowHop]

E mail the club and ask them to give me something to be positive about FFS.

Stop bering so naive and gullible that everything is on track.

We won't make major list changes, just minor cosmetic one that will amount to nothing. We will keep players who can not compete but look at Port - they delisted Jacob Surjain - we would never do that.

The big fish is bullshit. We will end up with the same crap we end up with every ******* year.

So, stop telling me to stop being negative when we have **** all to be positive about.

1 finals in 5 years - yeah, get ****** with your positivity as we are shit.

Relax man.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I must have missed them.

I'm going to let this go, because it's not going anywhere, but it must be a horrible way to live your life.

Are you interested in buying a Bridge?

I'll get my Nigerian mate to E Mail you some details.

Being gullible and trustworthy must be fun as well.

 

[Bailey01]

With all due respect - then someone else says "hold the negative until after the NAB cup as the pre season has just started", then it's "hold the negative until after the first few rounds" and then - "hold the negativity as we are still a mathematical chance to make the 8" and then it's - hold the negativity until after trade week and the cycle begins again.

You need a holiday

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

You need a holiday

What was wrong with what I said?

Are yo trying to imply it doesn't happen?

 

[TheTruthMeter]

This!!!

How's this for a Big Fish guess

Orange Ruffy is a fish

Orange Ruffy = Gary Rohan ?

 

[Elite Crow]

The issue with trading in average players such as Gwilt and Robinson is it achieves nothing except increase the depth and quality of the 18-30th players on our list. Yes it might stop you finishing 12th, but it ain't going to help you get much higher up the ladder. It's the perfect way to maintain mediocrity and to not risk falling back which ultimately you need to do to add real quality.

 

[Thinker]

E mail the club and ask them to give me something to be positive about FFS.

Stop bering so naive and gullible that everything is on track.

We won't make major list changes, just minor cosmetic one that will amount to nothing. We will keep players who can not compete but look at Port - they delisted Jacob Surjain - we would never do that.

The big fish is bullshit. We will end up with the same crap we end up with every ******* year.

So, stop telling me to stop being negative when we have **** all to be positive about.

1 finals in 5 years - yeah, get ****** with your positivity as we are shit.

Man, if you don't have an ulcer already.... You're gonna get one. Try a positive mindset. It's a much better way to live your life.

 

[FAITH]

This thread Is worse than our season...

 

[Elite Crow]

This thread Is worse than our season...

Yep. Now who are we getting?

 

[Bailey01]

What was wrong with what I said?

Are yo trying to imply it doesn't happen?

You sound stressed to the max. Take an off season holiday and come back fresh with positivity!!!!!!!

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Man, if you don't have an ulcer already.... You're gonna get one. Try a positive mindset. It's a much better way to live your life.

Thats ok - you are allowed to counter my negativity with some positivity?

Post something positive - not a rumour or a guess but something genuinely positive.

CEO? not yet
Senior assistant - not yet
free agents - no A graders on the radar
List manager - no, not yet.
Assistant coaches changes - not yet

So, you are allowed to counter my negativity with some positivity.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

You sound stressed to the max. Take an off season holiday and come back fresh with positivity!!!!!!!

See above - you can post some positivity.

 

[The Karma Bus]

The issue with trading in average players such as Gwilt and Robinson is it achieves nothing except increase the depth and quality of the 18-30th players on our list. Yes it might stop you finishing 12th, but it ain't going to help you get much higher up the ladder. It's the perfect way to maintain mediocrity and to not risk falling back which ultimately you need to do to add real quality.

Thankfully some understand this..
Vision in what you're trying to build, not just that Gwilt could do a job in a back pocket for 2 or 3 years.. A very average job at that..
Biggest waste of time and anything else getting guys like that in..

And you also then don't play the younger players as much, who will be taking you forward.. and that you need to be developed..
We should be doing that, not getting average old players in to try and squeeze the last bit of juice out of them when the juice is meh anyway..
All it does is cling you to the average teams in the competition..

 

[Thinker]

Thats ok - you are allowed to counter my negativity with some positivity?

Post something positive - not a rumour or a guess but something genuinely positive.

CEO? not yet
Senior assistant - not yet
free agents - no A graders on the radar
List manager - no, not yet.
Assistant coaches changes - not yet

So, you are allowed to counter my negativity with some positivity.

My positivity is Roo. I have belief that he will make things happen. I acknowledge that we have a lot of S*** to deal with but I genuinely believe that he will bring influence and better skill in coaching and administration to our club. Change is an opportunity to be better. Honestly, if you really are that negative and fed up, perhaps it really is time to look at another club? I don't mean that in an inflammatory way, but sincerely.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

That applies to everyone - post something positive and show me the way.

However, results don'y allow and the movement in the past 48 hours don't help.

I'm not negative, I'm realistic and your not sick of reading my negativity - your sick of reading the truth about the club and being reminded of our ineptness.

Don't blame me for posting the truth.

 

[Elite Crow]

Thankfully some understand this..
Vision in what you're trying to build, not just that Gwilt could do a job in a back pocket for 2 or 3 years.. A very average job at that..
Biggest waste of time and anything else getting guys like that in..

And you also then don't play the younger players as much, who will be taking you forward.. and that you need to be developed..
We should be doing that, not getting average old players in to try and squeeze the last bit of juice out of them when the juice is meh anyway..
All it does is cling you to the average teams in the competition..

Gwilt or Siggins? Which one is your future? And if Siggins isn't move him on quicker.

 

[Bailey01]

That applies to everyone - post something positive and show me the way.

However, results don'y allow and the movement in the past 48 hours don't help.

I'm not negative, I'm realistic and your not sick of reading my negativity - your sick of reading the truth about the club and being reminded of our ineptness.

Don't blame me for posting the truth.

We're going to get a 'big fish' this trade period and he will propel us into the top 8. There ya go some positivity. That's the lesson done for the day.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

We're going to get a 'big fish' this trade period and he will propel us into the top 8. There ya go some positivity. That's the lesson done for the day.

Thanks - Im positive, we won't.

However - if it's Jeremy Cameron and that small light becomes bigger and it becomes realistic, my positivity will become transient.

 

[CrowHop]

The issue with trading in average players such as Gwilt and Robinson is it achieves nothing except increase the depth and quality of the 18-30th players on our list. Yes it might stop you finishing 12th, but it ain't going to help you get much higher up the ladder. It's the perfect way to maintain mediocrity and to not risk falling back which ultimately you need to do to add real quality.

You should have started with 'the issue with ONLY trading in average players ....'

Hopefully most people get it.

 

[DD#23]

How's this for a Big Fish guess

Orange Ruffy is a fish

Orange Ruffy = Gary Rohan ?

Ruffy, Roughy, Roughead!

would be a great pickup!

in all seriousness, think he might see it as a G. Ablett "chance to build something from scratch" challenge?

 

[Freshj]

That applies to everyone - post something positive and show me the way.

However, results don'y allow and the movement in the past 48 hours don't help.

I'm not negative, I'm realistic and your not sick of reading my negativity - your sick of reading the truth about the club and being reminded of our ineptness.

Don't blame me for posting the truth.

Realistically, you have no idea what will happen this offseason. You are choosing to assume the worst because blah blah mediocrity blah blah....

At some point the crows will challenge again. Things will be shaken up and changes will be made that have positive influences on our club. Can you tell me for a fact that this will not happen this offseason? No? Didnt think so...your in the same boat as the rest of us. We are all frustrated, but the difference is we are open for change and hopeful. Whereas i think that even when things do change for the better you will be so deep in your own big hole of negativity that you will fail to see it and probably still complain.

Perk up mate, this is what supporting your team is all about. Enjoy it