afl.com.au's Live Mock Draft - Top 30

[bradburygold]

Would almost be a riot on the Dogs board if we take two midfielders with our first two picks..... We need one of the bigger guys to slide down a few spots.

But this is my big fear with the draft - all the tall timber will be gone by our picks....

Go Harrison Himmelberg instead? Can't see why essendon wouldn't match with their first pick, forcing gws to use up a bit more of their points leaving you to grab him. a bit more mobile than t boyd be a nice tandem in future with stringer there also.

 

[Plastic_Hawk9]

He sounds like a nice player, but I agree with your comment - we have a deep midfield, before adding Liberatore, Stevens, Smith etc back in from injury, plus the continued development of our kids.

We need KPP and ruck depth, so I'm worried it'll all be gone by our picks.

Gach Nyoun maybe?

 

[Plastic_Hawk9]

Again, Collins and Bonner... please no!

MIDS DAMMIT!

I'd have taken Gresham and one of: Collins, Bonner, Hibberd, Cole or even Rioli. You can never have enough Rioli's

 

[RUNVS]

Why is it that Adelaide always bid on our Academy players?

Mock Adelaide are a bunch of dicks

 

[VanDemonxx]

Yep. You would be laughing all the way to the bank if you landed the two of them. As it is, it feels like you have to decide between the two of them at pick 3.

obviously Parish considering Curnow could be there at 7

 

[TedDougChris]

Go Harrison Himmelberg instead? Can't see why essendon wouldn't match with their first pick, forcing gws to use up a bit more of their points leaving you to grab him. a bit more mobile than t boyd be a nice tandem in future with stringer there also.

Gach Nyoun maybe?

Appreciate the replies and suggestions guys !!

I'll admit I'm no draft expert, I'm more looking at the current imbalance on the Dogs list. We don't need more mids, we have enough and need to see what a couple can do (on the fringes) next year - as they may form part of our trading strategy for next year. KPP's and ruckman (preferably mobile) is where the draft is at for us.

I don't mind a Rioli type if he slips, but after that it should be tall, taller and tallest....

 

[TwentyNine]

Be interested to hear the theory on why the Dogs need two more midfielders with our first two selections.....

The simple answer is that there really aren't any great non-mids around based on the selections they had made previously. If you took someone who is not a mid there you'd very much be reaching for them because all the quality talls have been cleaned out by that point. Midfielders wouldn't be the priority for the Dogs but every single club in the league could do with some more midfield depth, and the Dogs are no different.

 

[TedDougChris]

The simple answer is that there really aren't any great non-mids around based on the selections they had made previously. If you took someone who is not a mid there you'd very much be reaching for them because all the quality talls have been cleaned out by that point. Midfielders wouldn't be the priority for the Dogs but every single club in the league could do with some more midfield depth, and the Dogs are no different.

Which is a concern to me about the positioning of our picks.

We honestly do not need more midfield depth. I would potentially trade/swap for a little more pace in there, but we didn't lack for moving the ball quickly this year and next year will be no different. From our finals loss we have Liberatore, Stevens, JJ, Hrovat, McLean, Webb, Suckling to come into our midfield rotations (although some play primarily different roles) plus a few draftees from last year who have barely played ...

 

[TwentyNine]

Which is a concern to me about the positioning of our picks.

We honestly do not need more midfield depth. I would potentially trade/swap for a little more pace in there, but we didn't lack for moving the ball quickly this year and next year will be no different. From our finals loss we have Liberatore, Stevens, JJ, Hrovat, McLean, Webb, Suckling to come into our midfield rotations (although some play primarily different roles) plus a few draftees from last year who have barely played ...

Yeah I would've kept pick 11 if I was the Dogs. Didn't really seem like a great trade to me.

As I said, every club could use more midfield depth, whether you "need" it or not. Unless you've won the flag I don't think you can say you have enough midfield depth. Especially with guys like Boyd or Picken in the late years of their careers. It might not be the most pressing need but it's certainly not as if drafting midfielders is a waste of your time.

 

[bmaurizio]

Weitering,vMilara, Burton and Matheison wouk be an awesome result for the Mighty Baggers.
Go Blues

 

[coniglio_number1]

We wouldn't pass up himmelberg.

We have more than enough points to secure all 3 prime academy boys.

And we have enough points next year to go into deficit if we chose to match bids for Cornell, tiziani and maybe flynn(doubtful as he is very raw)

 

[Suma Magic]

We wouldn't pass up himmelberg.

We have more than enough points to secure all 3 prime academy boys.

And we have enough points next year to go into deficit if we chose to match bids for Cornell, tiziani and maybe flynn(doubtful as he is very raw)

If you match bids at 5, 6 and 28 (for example) you would go into around 200 points debt.

So its far from certain that you have "more than enough points".

 

[The Facepainter]

The real question is - why does anyone include Sanderson on anything like this?

In 5 years time he will be the medias new 'list manager' despite all the evidence suggesting he knows very, very little.

Isn't he the AIS coach? Would have thought he has been really close to a lot of these kids.

 

[hepd]

If you match bids at 5, 6 and 28 (for example) you would go into around 200 points debt.

So its far from certain that you have "more than enough points".

With your example, the Giants will enough once Sydney's and Brisbane's picks move to the back of the draft

 

[Flandersss]

Would be happy with Mitch Hibberd.

 

[Silvagnis]

Weitering,vMilara, Burton and Matheison wouk be an awesome result for the Mighty Baggers.
Go Blues

Gresham, Clarke and Dunkley or Mathieson.

Milera might be a risk, but he'd still be a safer pick than Burton. Might pass if we can get a pure midfielder.

 

[coniglio_number1]

All of the mid range picks for Sydney and Brisbane will be gone by the time the bid for himmelberg comes around our later picks will be worth more. Hence we will be able to pick up Himmelberg without debt. The question marks were always over Cornell and tiziani

 

[Suma Magic]

With your example, the Giants will enough once Sydney's and Brisbane's picks move to the back of the draft

Thats true. Although the Brisbane picks only influence Himmelberg. Might mean they come out even.

 

[TerryWallet]

We wouldn't pass up himmelberg.

We have more than enough points to secure all 3 prime academy boys.

And we have enough points next year to go into deficit if we chose to match bids for Cornell, tiziani and maybe flynn(doubtful as he is very raw)

I think Twomey and Sando really only did that non match at the end for educational purposes.

For the listeners to hear what happens if someone doesn't match.

Gotta remember this is new and confusing for the non Draftheads who are only starting to tune in for the last week.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Coming out even with hopper, Kennedy and Himmelberg is a huge win in my eyes. Any extra 7th and 8th rounder selections can be used for Cornell and tiziani if no one bids

 

[hepd]

Thats true. Although the Brisbane picks only influence Himmelberg. Might mean they come out even.

Probably, depends on Mills too although I rate Hopper higher especially with Mills missing so much football so I would be surprised if he lasted till 5/6, probably a bit generous with him going around there - if Essendon are feeling nice, hold off on bidding until after their pick 4

 

[TedDougChris]

Yeah I would've kept pick 11 if I was the Dogs. Didn't really seem like a great trade to me.

As I said, every club could use more midfield depth, whether you "need" it or not. Unless you've won the flag I don't think you can say you have enough midfield depth. Especially with guys like Boyd or Picken in the late years of their careers. It might not be the most pressing need but it's certainly not as if drafting midfielders is a waste of your time.

I understand the logic behind the decision, I'm just worried we may have outsmarted ourselves. Trade 2 for one, with players of potentially a similar quality. My issue is that we do have pressing needs, particularly around KPP. And if those guys are all gone, have we really done ourselves any favours ?

Picken is 29 and will be for nearly all of next year, Boyd doesn't play in the middle any longer. We've got enough backup to cover for one guy. Core of our midfield is 24 and below. Next year we could stock up on mids and it'll make no difference to our progress - heck, it'll help us sort out if guys like Honeychurch and Hrovat still are on the list in a year. Getting 12 months into a few KPP's will - even if they aren't playing much AFL.

 

[TwentyNine]

I understand the logic behind the decision, I'm just worried we may have outsmarted ourselves. Trade 2 for one, with players of potentially a similar quality. My issue is that we do have pressing needs, particularly around KPP. And if those guys are all gone, have we really done ourselves any favours ?

Picken is 29 and will be for nearly all of next year, Boyd doesn't play in the middle any longer. We've got enough backup to cover for one guy. Core of our midfield is 24 and below. Next year we could stock up on mids and it'll make no difference to our progress - heck, it'll help us sort out if guys like Honeychurch and Hrovat still are on the list in a year. Getting 12 months into a few KPP's will - even if they aren't playing much AFL.

You really can't count guys like JJ and Webb as mids if you don't count Boyd.

I agree with your logic but there's no point spending those picks on average kpps if good mids are available, which I expect to be the case.

 

[TedDougChris]

You really can't count guys like JJ and Webb as mids if you don't count Boyd.

I agree with your logic but there's no point spending those picks on average kpps if good mids are available, which I expect to be the case.

Even if you exclude JJ and Webb, we've still got 5 or 6 mids to come into a side that made finals. We don't need more mids...

That's the conundrum we face and have for some time. Do we take the best KPP available (which has led to some shockers like Walsh and Grant), or do we pick the best available player - and end up with about 20 mids on the field.....

 

[eastfreo75]

Would almost be a riot on the Dogs board if we take two midfielders with our first two picks..... We need one of the bigger guys to slide down a few spots.

But this is my big fear with the draft - all the tall timber will be gone by our picks....

Got a feeling you guys may go with Adams or Mitch Brown early.