AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

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NoobPie

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Are you taking the piss? Seriously, one club having 100m does highlight the strength of the game. They are already a more sustainable business than the Suns and have not played one game at the top level
No they are not. Not even close.

In terms of revenue, their leagues club actually has less than half the revenue of the Southport Sharks.


...which doesn't mean anything about the relative strength of the associated football clubs or codes, it just means the Sharks have a bigger Leagues club. It certaintly doesn't mean either would be sustainable in the NRL / AFL



The suns would die with out the AFL pumping huge money in.
So? AFL clubs need to be far bigger for a start - the Suns own revenues are probably ample to survive in the NRL with the normal club distribution - but ultimately the AFL can give bigger distributions to the Suns until kingdom come. I am not sure how it is relevant to any point you've tried to make though


You can post all the pictures you want to try and hammer home you point. Yet no link?
Really? You thing I've created fake tables and made it look professional just to beat some anonymous clown whose only trick is doing laughing emojis on posters that are schooling them?

Anyway, here is the Ausplay power BI I was using


Enjoy!

You select an age and gender range to suit your argument.
I chose 9 to 17 because I thought it was most relevant to the supply of future players. You can put your own selections in.....I'll even do it for you if you can't work it out for yourself

The fact you think it would change anything just reveals how far out of your depth you are.

So confused 🤣
 

Seedsfan

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No they are not. Not even close.

In terms of revenue, their leagues club actually has less than half the revenue of the Southport Sharks.


...which doesn't mean anything about the relative strength of the associated football clubs or codes, it just means the Sharks have a bigger Leagues club. It certaintly doesn't mean either would be sustainable in the NRL / AFL





So? AFL clubs need to be far bigger for a start - the Suns own revenues are probably ample to survive in the NRL with the normal club distribution - but ultimately the AFL can give bigger distributions to the Suns until kingdom come. I am not sure how it is relevant to any point you've tried to make though




Really? You thing I've created fake tables and made it look professional just to beat some anonymous clown whose only trick is doing laughing emojis on posters that are schooling them?

Anyway, here is the Ausplay power BI I was using


Enjoy!



I chose 9 to 17 because I thought it was most relevant to the supply of future players. You can put your own selections in.....I'll even do it for you if you can't work it out for yourself

The fact you think it would change anything just reveals how far out of your depth you are.

So confused 🤣
Lol you are blinded by your bias the money is in men’s sports. Your isolated age demographic sees the rugby codes 22.6% of the market. Where as Australian football has less than 7.5%

In NSW 17% to rugby and 5.6% to Australian football so the gap isn’t closing like you claim
 

GC2015

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Mate, the NRL haven'e segmented anything. They've introduced the team that News ltd let them bring in.
Then why did they use the greater population number in the northern corridor to justify a team over the western corridor? They are literally using the word 'corridor' and attaching a geographical direction before it to describe these areas. If that's not segmentation then I don't know what is.


Also, it's going to take decades for the majority of the likes of Tom Trbojevic to choose the AFL in NSW and QLD. Certainly seems a lot more of the talented ones are going to the AFL over the last decade or so.
Not necessarily. Darren Lockyer is an example of an Aussie rules junior who would have likely stuck with the code if he was coming through now due to a greater number of clubs existing throughout Queensland as well as the Brisbane Lions academy. He only took up rugby league because he moved to a country town and the commute to Brisbane was too far to continue.
 

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dave10

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The AFL is ready and will keep on improving in SE QLD.There is plenty of scope for improvement by the AFL.
Don't forget the AFL started from a low base and RL was well established for decades before the Brisbane Lions came along!
A huge asset for the AFLs ongoing growth in SEQ is the Olympic Stadium development. Stadia is a major cog in the wheel of growth and will enable the game and the Lions have unprecedented facilities to showcase the game and drive corporate involvement.
 

dave10

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Geez I would like to be Munster or Ponga, Dolphins will pay overs to get a couple high profile players for 2023. Reckon Haas (young prop forward) from the Broncos would also be targeted with a huge long-term offer.

Talking of overs a Fox journalist 'John Ralph' reckon Suns will be that desperate to keep King they will likely offer a 3 or 4 years contract for a million per year.
Issue they’ve got is they still have to sit under the salary cap. It’s not like the old days when ‘the AFL will just give him an extra $2M to stay’. It doesn’t work like that. Simply, if he gets a $1M a year deal, that money will come from the same pit needed to retain Rowell, Lukosius et all..,
 

NoobPie

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Then why did they use the greater population number in the northern corridor to justify a team over the western corridor? They are literally using the word 'corridor' and attaching a geographical direction before it to describe these areas. If that's not segmentation then I don't know what is.
Yeah, I wouldn't read too much into what they said. Everything points to the decision being based on what news limited would concede. What is definitely not going to happen is the NRL putting a team in one of these other "corridors" in the future.


Not necessarily. Darren Lockyer is an example of an Aussie rules junior who would have likely stuck with the code if he was coming through now due to a greater number of clubs existing throughout Queensland as well as the Brisbane Lions academy. He only took up rugby league because he moved to a country town and the commute to Brisbane was too far to continue.
Maybe Darren Lockyer would have kept with Australian football. The point is you wouldn't expect the academies to land most of the duel code kids for a while yet
 

RedV3x

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A lot of people keep talking about the "threat" of AFL.

"Parramatta chief executive Denis Fitzgerald predicts league and rugby will eventually amalgamate to form a code that could repel the growing threat of Australian Football."


I don't get it on so many levels.
Has the NRL capitulated to soccer ?
Do the NRL seriously think AFL is the problem ?
Wouldn't improving the NRL product be better than another example of the same troubled product?
Are NRL officials really so desperate as to consider merging ?
 

Bjo187

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A lot of people keep talking about the "threat" of AFL.

"Parramatta chief executive Denis Fitzgerald predicts league and rugby will eventually amalgamate to form a code that could repel the growing threat of Australian Football."


I don't get it on so many levels.
Has the NRL capitulated to soccer ?
Do the NRL seriously think AFL is the problem ?
Wouldn't improving the NRL product be better than another example of the same troubled product?
Are NRL officials really so desperate as to consider merging ?
Agree it actually makes me think the afl are making a lot more inroads than i thought the level of fear coming from these rugby characters.
 

NoobPie

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A lot of people keep talking about the "threat" of AFL.

"Parramatta chief executive Denis Fitzgerald predicts league and rugby will eventually amalgamate to form a code that could repel the growing threat of Australian Football."


I don't get it on so many levels.
Has the NRL capitulated to soccer ?
Do the NRL seriously think AFL is the problem ?
Wouldn't improving the NRL product be better than another example of the same troubled product?
Are NRL officials really so desperate as to consider merging ?
Given Jack Gibson died in 2008 and it refers to David Gallop being CEO, I suspect that article is a touch dated!
 

Seedsfan

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A lot of people keep talking about the "threat" of AFL.

"Parramatta chief executive Denis Fitzgerald predicts league and rugby will eventually amalgamate to form a code that could repel the growing threat of Australian Football."


I don't get it on so many levels.
Has the NRL capitulated to soccer ?
Do the NRL seriously think AFL is the problem ?
Wouldn't improving the NRL product be better than another example of the same troubled product?
Are NRL officials really so desperate as to consider merging ?
It’s because league doesn’t want to fight on two fronts

AFL is big domestically with vast money and resources

Rugby is fairly irrelevant domestically but is big business internationally and there are overseas investors looking to buy into the wallabies and raise the profile of them once more

It leaves league in a delicate position
 

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