Mega Thread All things Tony Abbott

[medusala]

An example of a very wrong call.

What makes you think the regulation was any good? There has been a huge amount of legislation and regulation in the area, clearly it's been ineffective.

Why automatically assume more regulation would be good? Particularly from the last government who were utterly clueless re financial markets and regulation (see Rudd Bank etc). How about ASIC and the regulators actually do what they are paid to do?

 

[noddy]

What makes you think the regulation was any good? There has been a huge amount of legislation and regulation in the area, clearly it's been ineffective.

Why automatically assume more regulation would be good? Particularly from the last government who were utterly clueless re financial markets and regulation (see Rudd Bank etc). How about ASIC and the regulators actually do what they are paid to do?

Don't tell me that you are one of those bloody low life investment advisers.

 

[medusala]

Don't tell me that you are one of those bloody low life investment advisers.

No I'm not. I totally agree many of them are low lifes. Let us not kid ourselves though that a mountain of regulation is the answer to everything. Most people are smart enough to get around rules set by union hacks in conjunction with public servants and even worse, policed by ASIC.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Don't tell me that you are one of those bloody low life investment advisers.

Meds has an unshakable ideological position, detached from reality. Regulation=bad.

 

[Docker Clint]

Meds has an unshakable ideological position, detached from reality. Regulation=bad.

Such short memories they have. Regulations come into play because of the charlatans, shonks and rip off merchants. A few years later the cry comes out "there's too much red tape!", so they get rid of it and the same happens. Rinse, repeat.

Good luck relying on the goodness of people's hearts not to rip off vulnerable people.

 

[Xsess]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-...d-with-wind-back-of-financial-advice-/5537504
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-...th-wind-back-of-financial-advice-laws/5537504

More anti government propoganda from the AlpBC.

Agreed. I haven't heard the argument for this change

My point exactly. Of course you will only EVER hear one side from "our" AlpgreenBC

 

[Floor Pie]

AlpgreenBC

Haha. Christ!

 

[DivideandMultiply]

More anti government propoganda from the AlpBC.



My point exactly. Of course you will only EVER hear one side from "our" AlpgreenBC

wut

 

[Docker Clint]

Yeah, I don't understand his position.

"Red tape" was created to stop the incidents from occurring, so far it has helped. But the view is, it isn't working enough so let's scrap it all together, rather than fix it...

The best form of regulation, is self regulation? Isn't that what required the "red tape" in the first place?

I can certainly understand the frustration from honest operators. On the face of it, some legislation sounds crazy and designed to annoy, but like with OHS regulations, they all came into existence because of an incident.

 

[Xsess]

wut

Our ABC. You know. The taxpayer funded green - left propoganda department.

Quoting them exclusively, doesn't further your argument.

 

[madmug]

Our ABC. You know. The taxpayer funded green - left propoganda department.

Quoting them exclusively, doesn't further your argument.

The anti ABC comments dont add anything to the discussion either. Clearly the Financial sector has a big responsibility. If they are untrustworthy then they need strong rules. Its unfortunate, but that does seem to be the case. Those rules wont affect the good operators.
Geez, Even the good old Commonwealth bank has been 'at it'.
Its no good talking about self regulation when the damage is done to peoples hard earned nest egg. Its too important not to regulate strongly.

 

[Floor Pie]

I can certainly understand the frustration from honest operators. On the face of it, some legislation sounds crazy and designed to annoy, but like with OHS regulations, they all came into existence because of an incident.

But like OHS, most of the "red tape" has been implemented to stop people scamming money off others. Be that taxpayers, employees or investors.

 

[Docker Clint]

But like OHS, most of the "red tape" has been implemented to stop people scamming money off others. Be that taxpayers, employees or investors.

But like OHS, most of the "red tape" has been implemented to stop people scamming money off others. Be that taxpayers, employees or investors.

We've seen what happens when not enough regulation occurs (insulation deaths). Funny that the party that screams about the checks and balances not being there wants to slacken checks and balances.

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

Who can you quote to "further your argument"?

 

[Docker Clint]

He's one creepy man.

 

[Docker Clint]

https://newmatilda.com/2014/07/02/abc-lateline’s-‘fake-youth-worker’-wins-plum-abbott-govt-job

A senior bureaucrat who was forced to apologise for misleading a federal Senate inquiry into petrol sniffing in Aboriginal communities and who appeared on an ABC current affairs program under a false identity has been appointed the nation’s first ‘Threatened Species Commissioner’.

This mob are just pulling the piss.

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

https://newmatilda.com/2014/07/02/abc-lateline’s-‘fake-youth-worker’-wins-plum-abbott-govt-job



This mob are just pulling the piss.

There's gonna be very little left to extract. Come on down, Janet Albrechtsen

The Abbott government has appointed conservative commentator Janet Albrechtsen and former deputy Liberal Party leader Neil Brown to the panel overseeing appointments to the boards of the ABC and SBS.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ments-panel-20140702-3b8rs.html#ixzz36IsOk2Dc

 

[Pie eyed]

wut

Apparently Abbott's inability to explain his ******ed policy is the fault of the ABC.
Can't wait until the next Fedral Election.
I hope they deport the ****er. Immigrant scum.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Our ABC. You know. The taxpayer funded green - left propoganda department.

Quoting them exclusively, doesn't further your argument.

wut

 

[romeoh]

wut

Think the major in Fawlty Towers?

 

[noddy]

There's gonna be very little left to extract. Come on down, Janet Albrechtsen

Bolt, Kenny & Murray are all lined up to blessed by Tone so it's just a matter of time, surely though he will call halt when the Jones boy & Michael Smith come a calling for the left overs.

 

[Gough]

Think the major in Fawlty Towers?

My favourite character. Papers arrived yet Fawlty?

 

[noddy]

Think the major in Fawlty Towers?

That was very good.

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

More anti government propoganda from the AlpBC.



My point exactly. Of course you will only EVER hear one side from "our" AlpgreenBC

So what is the argument we aren't hearing, Xsess? Is it just 'deregulation = good'?

It's unlike you to go quiet.

 

[Docker Clint]

Just in time for Naidoc week

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ustralia-was-unsettled-before-british-arrived

Australia was “unsettled” before the British arrived and owes its existence to Britain’s “form of foreign investment” in the land, Tony Abbott has said.

The prime minister delivered the keynote address to the Australian-Melbourne Institute on Thursday evening and during a question and answer session he was asked about foreign investment in real estate.