Angwin on Theft Charge!!

[Sezza_20]

This guy really has some issues.

I just read in the Herald Sun that our mate Laurence appeared in court yesterday on burglary and theft charges!! He was also on a charge of failing to answer bail.
Last year he entered a chelsea home and stole $540 of stuff including 13 DVD's, alcohol, a toy gun and a purse!...hmmm.
He also was charged with stealing $113 of stuff from the AFL store in Bayside plaza.
He also failed to front in court in May

Get your act together mate!! You have lost the plot!!

Aren't we glad he's not a Crow anymore!

 

[napsyd]

Can you post the article Sezza20?

 

[napsyd]

Here tis!!

Promising Blue charged with theft
By COURTNEY WALSH and MICHAEL WARNER
24jul03

THE struggling Carlton Football Club was yesterday dealt another blow when promising ruckman Laurence Angwin appeared in court on burglary and theft charges.

The 200cm rookie, who made his debut with the club just three weeks ago, faced Frankston Magistrates' Court on two counts each of burglary and theft and a charge of failing to answer bail.
Police allege Angwin, 20, of Fraser St, Coburg, entered a Banyon St, Chelsea, home on May 15 last year and stole property valued at $540.

Among the loot allegedly stolen were 13 DVDs, three bottles of alcohol, a toy gun and a purse containing $45. He has also been charged with offences relating to the theft of $113 from the AFL store in Frankston's Bayside Plaza on July 19 last year.

The bail breach relates to the lanky ruckman's failure to appear in court on May 5 this year.

Angwin, represented by Andrew Robinson in court, did not speak during the brief hearing and has not entered a plea to the charges.

It is not the first time Angwin, who has kicked four goals in three games for the Blues, has faced court. He was convicted and fined $625 in Adelaide Magistrates' Court last September after being caught driving with a blood-alcohol level of 0.107 per cent.

But Carlton spokesman Ian Coutts told the Herald Sun the club would stand by the rookie, who was promoted to the senior list at the start of the month.

He said Carlton was made aware of the charges when it recruited Angwin late last year.

"We knew there were some issues from the past . . . part of our goal with Lawrence is to work with him as a footballer and as a person," Mr Coutts said.

"Hopefully, the environment we provide for him will enable him to improve his standing right across the board.

"That's what we're all about."

Angwin was initially taken by the Adelaide Crows as the 7th pick in the 2000 AFL draft, but failed to play a senior game for the club before being delisted.

He returned to Melbourne and played with the Box Hill Hawks last year.

Magistrate Christine Thornton yesterday released Angwin on bail to appear in the same court in September.

 

[Crow54]

Hmmm. Sounds like some of the rumours I heard about him while he was over here were true.

Surprising really, because when I had the chance to meet him, he seemed such a nice fella.

 

[Jars458]

Anyone gloating over this needs to get some perspective.

Hopefully the kid can turn his life around with Carlton's and his family's help.

To me, this highlights how silly it is to jump to conlcusions about players as he obviously has some serious problems to work out.

I think we should all lay off him and wish him luck.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Jars458
Anyone gloating over this needs to get some perspective.

Hopefully the kid can turn his life around with Carlton's and his family's help.

To me, this highlights how silly it is to jump to conlcusions about players as he obviously has some serious problems to work out.

I think we should all lay off him and wish him luck.

You're entitled to your opinion, and others are entitled to theirs.

He does have some serious character problems to work out in his life, and if you're saying that we should wish him luck in overcoming these obvious deficiencies in character, I agree. Nobody should get delight in seeing a young man become a chronic serial thief amongst other things, totally ruining his life in the process.

Conversely he shafted the Adelaide footy club big time in a football sense, and I certainly don't want to see him rewarded with an illustrious career elsewhere for that.

I resent what he did to the AFC and I'm entitled to that opinion, as is anyone else.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Jars458
Anyone gloating over this needs to get some perspective.

Hopefully the kid can turn his life around with Carlton's and his family's help.

To me, this highlights how silly it is to jump to conlcusions about players as he obviously has some serious problems to work out.

I think we should all lay off him and wish him luck.

**** him.

The guy's clearly just a spoilt little brat.

My sympathy goes to the people he robbed, not this **** who would be paid more than most other people his age and still feels the need to steal from people.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by DaveW
**** him.

The guy's clearly just a spoilt little brat.

My sympathy goes to the people he robbed, not this **** who would be paid more than most other people his age and still feels the need to steal from people.

So throw him into the dust bin. Pathetic attitude.

 

[Forum_Leader]

Just a thief....
No time for bogan crooks....

He will probably steal Pagan' car next..

 

[79Vintage]

Thanks to those Crow's supporters who put their faith in human nature ahead of their support of a football team.

 

[Mong]

I was just reading about this on the main AFL board and a few people mentioned some Nigel Smart comments.

I didn't hear anything about these comments.

Can someone please fill me in on what Smart said about Angwin?

Thanks.


****

 

[napsyd]

Originally posted by ****
I was just reading about this on the main AFL board and a few people mentioned some Nigel Smart comments.

I didn't hear anything about these comments.

Can someone please fill me in on what Smart said about Angwin?

Thanks.


****

I think he called him a "loose cannon" on the Collingwood Show. But this is second hand as I have long since stopped putting myself through Eddies little farse.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Is this really suprpising?!?!?!

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by 79Vintage
Thanks to those Crow's supporters who put their faith in human nature ahead of their support of a football team.

And what if he'd killed someone when he was ****ed off his brain and rolled his car when he was over here?!

The guy is obviously a congenital ****wit.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by dyertribe
And what if he'd killed someone when he was ****ed off his brain and rolled his car when he was over here?!

The guy is obviously a congenital ****wit.

Never made a mistake in your life???

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Jars458
Never made a mistake in your life???

Of course I have but geez, let me think?

Have I robbed a house, shoplifted or drink-drove and rolled my car?

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by dyertribe
Of course I have but geez, let me think?

Have I robbed a house, shoplifted or drink-drove and rolled my car?

You forgot

"and rattled my team-mates' lockers!!"

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by dyertribe
Of course I have but geez, let me think?

Have I robbed a house, shoplifted or drink-drove and rolled my car?

Many people have and have gone on to become valuable members of society.

I assume the rolleyes means you havn't done any of the above??

I have cerainly stolen things before.

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Jars458
I assume the rolleyes means you havn't done any of the above??

Of course

Originally posted by Jars458
I have cerainly stolen things before.

As you're such a moral crusader I trust you turned yourself in and made good of your deeds?

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by dyertribe
As you're such a moral crusader I trust you turned yourself in and made good of your deeds?

Yes I did.


I also have friends who drink drive occassionly. I think its very poor form and tell them so but they are astill my friends and have many good qualities.

I also have friends who are sexist racist or homophibic.

Doesn't mean they are bad people in most other respects.

We all have our faults, God knows, I have plenty.

(being sanctimoniou for instance)

People deserve another chance, especially when they are young. Society can't afford to toss them all on the slag heap.

Especially when there may be reasons why such things are occuring.

Then again - he may just be a tosser. Lets wait and see.

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Jars458
Then again - he may just be a tosser. Lets wait and see.

I'll give you evens...

PS. I have a slight gambling problem.

 

[Still Crowing]

In the Navy, thievery is considered one of the worst offences you can commit. When you are living life out of each others pockets, you have to have total trust in each other; I don't exagerate when I say it is often a matter life or death. A thief in a mess environment can cause all to lose faith and trust in their shipmates, morale will plunge.

For this reason, and for the reason that I imagine that being an AFL footballer must be a fair whack like being in the services, I have no sympathy for the little scrote.

I hate thieves. People that steal are bad enough, but those that steal off their mates are worse. I hate what they do to the mentality of others (ie trust and inter-personal issues). Simple.

Cheers,

Kasey

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Still Crowing
In the Navy, thievery is considered one of the worst offences you can commit. When you are living life out of each others pockets, you have to have total trust in each other; I don't exagerate when I say it is often a matter life or death. A thief in a mess environment can cause all to lose faith and trust in their shipmates, morale will plunge.

For this reason, and for the reason that I imagine that being an AFL footballer must be a fair whack like being in the services, I have no sympathy for the little scrote.

I hate thieves. People that steal are bad enough, but those that steal off their mates are worse. I hate what they do to the mentality of others (ie trust and inter-personal issues). Simple.

Cheers,

Kasey

But shoving brooms up the arse of new recruits is fine???

I wouldn't be taking my social lead from the Navy.

 

[Still Crowing]

Originally posted by Jars458
But shoving brooms up the arse of new recruits is fine???

I wouldn't be taking my social lead from the Navy.

He was probably a thief!

In all seriousness, Old Navy. We do things differently these days. Our system of laws, rules and punishments reflects the society we represent ....except in obvious cases where being a seagoing military arm require differences (ie thievery, sleeping in, missing musters, disobeying a lawful order etc is treated much harsher in the RAN than in civvy street).

Cheers,

Kasey

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Jars458
We all have our faults, God knows, I have plenty.

(being sanctimoniou for instance)

How about giving it a rest Jars. Your thoughts are very clear on this issue, and you've made them enough times both here and on the main board. Others have a totally different viewpoint, thinking that he is a lowdown piece of human **** and they're just as entitled as you to their opinion.

Once you start whacking on about shoving brooms up the arse of new recruits and not taking your social lead from the Navy in the context of a conversation about the merits of a drunken driver who is also a burglar, shoplifter, and steals from his teammates you ARE being sanctimonious.