Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-

[pjcrows]

And Independants like Zali Steggall stating the obvious, that this was entirely foreseeable.

Not only foreseeable, but by design.

 

[Saint]

Absolutely.

They 100% do not want to fight any conflict themselves and would happily see Japan in ruins after squeezing them for every last drop of military spending, or Australia depopulated etc. and swoop in and camp on our respurces.

The AUKUS shamozzle has made it clear. They want iron clad guarantees Australia will defend Taiwan, even if the US doesn't plan to and BTW, that doesn't even guarantee we get the naval hardware they've "promised". We are currently paying to retool US and British submarine manufacturing capacity and there are even factions that want us to be a pointless sacrificial lamb for the privilege.

It is beyond nonsensical, but one wonders if our leaders are stupid or cowardly enough to go along with one of the most strategically idiotic plans in history.

Because it absolutely won't weaken China OR strengthen the US.

The most likely outcome of AUKUS in 20 years' time is that the US is still economically battling China.

When it becomes a trade war, the USA will ask us to stop dealing with China, to which we will have to say no, then the submarines are taken away and $30bn is down the tube.

We can't get into an escalating arms race against our largest trading partner(China). And we certainly can't do it with our largest trading partner's biggest competitor (USA) being the one leasing us our military and able to withdraw our planes and our submarines at any point.

We just don't align with the USA any more. It's not that we align more with China, we should still keep them at arms length, but we certainly align more with Indonesia and Malyasia than with China or the USA. So it's stupid to become completely beholden to US military requirements for no concrete benefit.

 

[Saint]

Can't get approval for offshore windfarms, can build a dump for Yank nuclear waste.

Far out.

Oh, the Nationals are up in arms about wind farms, but nuclear waste? Crickets. We know who owns the Nationals.

 

[peetoo]

The most likely outcome of AUKUS in 20 years' time is that the US is still economically battling China.

When it becomes a trade war, the USA will ask us to stop dealing with China, to which we will have to say no, then the submarines are taken away and $30bn is down the tube.

We can't get into an escalating arms race against our largest trading partner(China). And we certainly can't do it with our largest trading partner's biggest competitor (USA) being the one leasing us our military and able to withdraw our planes and our submarines at any point.

We just don't align with the USA any more. It's not that we align more with China, we should still keep them at arms length, but we certainly align more with Indonesia and Malyasia than with China or the USA. So it's stupid to become completely beholden to US military requirements for no concrete benefit.

We need to become more self sufficient as advised by the Canadian pm

 

[Saint]

We need to become more self sufficient as advised by the Canadian pm

Yes, since our economy is pretty much completely detached from the US economy, it doesn't make sense for us to tie our military to the US, when they will use economic warfare against us, and our largest trading partners/blocs.

We should be part of building a larger Asian bloc so that the US's stupidity, Chinese totalitarianism and other nonsense barely makes a dent in the overall size of the Asian bloc's economy.

 

[FreoRicci]

Hard to avoid the conclusion that Albo got a phone call in December from Herzog who said “you’re inviting me to Australia”.

Um.. he wouldn’t even mention inviting

More like .. ‘Leave the border open. I’m coming to Australia’

 

[FreoRicci]

Albo has got himself into a pickle here. Idiot

Liberal or Labor PM.. no matter what party, both have to accept Herzog coming. Have no other choice.

 

[FIGJAM]

Not only foreseeable, but by design.

By design??

I doubt Albo wants anything other than peace and quiet on the antisemitism front and I strongly agree with Stegall that bringing Herzog here was only going to do the opposite.

It's a misstep from Albo, who I've said before, I see as a decent bloke, but sometimes I think is too reactionary with poor foresight, then has an uncanny ability to make the wrong choice to remedy the issue, seems bemused at the negative outcome and then will defend the wrong choice to the hilt despite the repercussions.

 

[Not Important]

 

[Not Important]

100%

 

[Not Important]

kudos zali.

 

[Not Important]

By design??

I doubt Albo wants anything other than peace and quiet on the antisemitism front and I strongly agree with Stegall that bringing Herzog here was only going to do the opposite.

It's a misstep from Albo, who I've said before, I see as a decent bloke, but sometimes I think is too reactionary with poor foresight, then has an uncanny ability to make the wrong choice to remedy the issue, seems bemused at the negative outcome and then will defend the wrong choice to the hilt despite the repercussions.

what he wants is to be bedfellows with the zionists cos they wield so much power and influence. he's moved from being left-leaning to a weak as piss appeaser.

 

[pjcrows]

By design??

I doubt Albo wants anything other than peace and quiet on the antisemitism front and I strongly agree with Stegall that bringing Herzog here was only going to do the opposite.

It's a misstep from Albo, who I've said before, I see as a decent bloke, but sometimes I think is too reactionary with poor foresight, then has an uncanny ability to make the wrong choice to remedy the issue, seems bemused at the negative outcome and then will defend the wrong choice to the hilt despite the repercussions.

Apologies if I misread the context - I meant the results last night of protests are by design. When Minns formally banned protests in an Australian state, the outcome is so obvious that the conclusion is that it is by design.

They want this.

 

[FIGJAM]

what he wants is to be bedfellows with the zionists cos they wield so much power and influence. he's moved from being left-leaning to a weak as piss appeaser.

Nah! He's still extremely pro-Palestine in case you've forgotten.

What has actually happened was/is that he is trying to appease the broader Jewish community because he had spent too long retrospectively denouncing antisemetic attacks and doing practically nothing in substance. So he got dragged into the Royal Commission and bringing an Israeli leader in.

If I were his advisor, I'd have told him to do the RC from the start and under no ****ing circumstance should you bring Herzog into Australia, as it would be like resting an Ularu-sized Jiffy Firelighter against a pile of smouldering embers.

 

[FreoRicci]

By design??

I doubt Albo wants anything other than peace and quiet on the antisemitism front and I strongly agree with Stegall that bringing Herzog here was only going to do the opposite.

It's a misstep from Albo, who I've said before, I see as a decent bloke, but sometimes I think is too reactionary with poor foresight, then has an uncanny ability to make the wrong choice to remedy the issue, seems bemused at the negative outcome and then will defend the wrong choice to the hilt despite the repercussions.

Albanese has no choice. None. Even if this was a Liberal PM, have no choice to accept the eagerness to accept Herzog in.
Why do you think Herzog wanted to? Propaganda. Upscoring. Using the Bondi Attack to spread hate and BS.

Israel’s roots are deeply imbedded all over the Western world. Play along

 

[NTRabbit]

kudos zali.

Colour me shocked that the media are complicit in this, surprised the interviewer didn't interrupt again and ask Steggall to denounce Hamas

 

[FreoRicci]

Nah! He's still extremely pro-Palestine in case you've forgotten.

What has actually happened was/is that he is trying to appease the broader Jewish community because he had spent too long retrospectively denouncing antisemetic attacks and doing practically nothing in substance. So he got dragged into the Royal Commission and bringing an Israeli leader in.

If I were his advisor, I'd have told him to do the RC from the start and under no ****ing circumstance should you bring Herzog into Australia, as it would be like resting an Ularu-sized Jiffy Firelighter against a pile of smouldering embers.

How did you think this all came about?
Probably got a ‘friendly’ ‘inviting’ call from Nethanyu himself.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Albanese has no choice. None. Even if this was a Liberal PM, have no choice to accept the eagerness to accept Herzog in.
Why do you think Herzog wanted to? Propaganda. Upscoring. Using the Bondi Attack to spread hate and BS.

Israel’s roots are deeply imbedded all over the Western world. Play along

No. Albanese is responsible for his own actions and decisions. He stuffed up here and needs to own it, don't blame it on some secretive "Jewish/Zionist lobby".

 

[FreoRicci]

No. Albanese is responsible for his own actions and decisions. He stuffed up here and needs to own it, don't blame it on some secretive "Jewish/Zionist lobby".

You’re delusional if you think Albanese had any say on this.

 

[Saint]

No. Albanese is responsible for his own actions and decisions. He stuffed up here and needs to own it, don't blame it on some secretive "Jewish/Zionist lobby".

Well, who was paying for, and attending the ICC for the mourning which appeared to have a hell of a lot of clapping?

Herzog, along with the whole Israeli Govt. Is Desperate, absolutely desparate, to link Israel with Judaism. If a Jew gets hurt, the Israeli Govt ties themselves to it.

If the Israeli Govt is attacked, they use Judaism as cover.

Every single anti-semitic incident, the first person to comment is Netanyahu, leader of a foreign country.

We don't have the Ayatollah comment every time an Islamophobic attack happens. New Zealand didn't invite the Ayatollah to lay some wreaths in Christchurch. Linking religion with nation states is a massive problem, in Israel as it is in Iran. The Australian Government playing into it is blatantly stupid.

 

[FIGJAM]

How did you think this all came about?
Probably got a ‘friendly’ ‘inviting’ call from Nethanyu himself.

Unless Benji has pics of Albo in his Unknown Pleasures t-shirt at Epstein Island, then I think Albo would be well within his rights to politely tell him to **** off.

I think the conspiracy theory angle is more easily explained away by Albo trying too hard to compensate to the Jewish community. And I don't think either Albo or the Jewish community thought things through hard enough.

 

[Gralin]

I'm sorry what the ****

 

[peetoo]

Funny how leaders get criticised for not taking ‘unpopular decisions’ but also criticised for each such decision

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I'm sorry what the ****

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Aren’t they Australians? Didn’t know they were Israelis.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

See this is what happens when a nation is a religion is a nation is a religion.