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If Channel 7's coverage of the Brisbane International is anything to go by, I hold little hope of seeing any improvement in the AO telecast from last year's abomination.

What sort of TV network returns to a sporting match (on more than one occasion) when the action has already started? This occurred throughout the tournament. Ad break would end and the score would already be 0-15 or even in one case, 40-0.

It's not good enough. Sports fans shouldn't have to put up with this shit from a broadcaster that apparently prides itself on sports coverage.
I've got to say, C10's coverage of the Hopman Cup has been a delight by comparison. It shits me that they showed pretty much everything on delay, but at least they were polite enough to not miss points.
 
I know there is a difference, I am just saying that I don't really notice it when I am engrossed in watching something.

How can you NOT notice the difference?

There is a blatant difference, and one that is fully noticeable. And when they are broadcasting these events with HD cameras for all the other countries around the world, they are short changing their local viewers by refusing to show these events in HD to us.
 
Because it's not a big deal. I'll notice the difference if I'm directly switching between HD and SD channels, but when I'm sitting watching something the difference in picture quality is not a massive issue. SD digital is very crisp and clear compared to the analog broadcast we've all watched for 90% of our lives.

If SD meant that I couldn't see the cricket ball properly, for example, I might care more. But the edges of the picture being slightly less sharp on what is overall a damn good picture doesn't exactly ruin the game. The T20s on GEM earlier in the summer were nice, but it hardly revolutionised my viewing experience.
 
It's a big deal when repeats of Friends are being shown on GEM instead of The Ashes, or when the the tennis will not be in HD in a few weeks because of shit like Whacked Out Sports.
 

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Eh, it doesn't make sense for them to split their audience over two channels when the difference in quality is so negligible that even people like you will watch in SD rather than switch off altogether. This way they pick up a bit of audience share from people not interested in tennis or cricket.

Even if the government lifts the restrictions tomorrow we won't see big events in HD consistently until either:

a) everybody has TVs with HD digital tuners,
b) the government adds a stipulation to the anti-siphoning list requiring HD simulcast, or
c) a significant segment of people stop watching sporting events if they aren't in HD

(A) will come first and I think it's still quite a few years away, even after the analog switch off. I know quite a few people who have SD-only set top boxes.
 
Eh, it doesn't make sense for them to split their audience over two channels when the difference in quality is so negligible that even people like you will watch in SD rather than switch off altogether. This way they pick up a bit of audience share from people not interested in tennis or cricket.

Even if the government lifts the restrictions tomorrow we won't see big events in HD consistently until either:

a) everybody has TVs with HD digital tuners,
b) the government adds a stipulation to the anti-siphoning list requiring HD simulcast, or
c) a significant segment of people stop watching sporting events if they aren't in HD

(A) will come first and I think it's still quite a few years away, even after the analog switch off. I know quite a few people who have SD-only set top boxes.
You can't get even get ONE HD in SD currently/anymore.
 
I didn't know they sold SD-only set top boxes? But why wouldn't you get HD? You can get them for around 70 bucks
 
We have to give credit where credit is due, and seven have done something right just now. They had the news at 5pm scheduled to be shown and for NSW/VIC viewers to leave for that. But, they have put the news on their secondary 72 channel and will continue showing the Stosur match. Well done.
 
We have to give credit where credit is due, and seven have done something right just now. They had the news at 5pm scheduled to be shown and for NSW/VIC viewers to leave for that. But, they have put the news on their secondary 72 channel and will continue showing the Stosur match. Well done.
Why was the news going to be on at 5?
 
I have a 37in full HD Panasonic Viera LCD.

I know there is a difference, I am just saying that I don't really notice it when I am engrossed in watching something. When I'm watching the game, I'm watching the game. I'm not thinking "gee the edges on the picture are just so fuzzy".

I just don't understand how anyone who grew up watching the analog broadcast of the cricket on a tiny CRT TV could possibly get so bent out of shape about the difference between SD and HD digital. HD is a nice little extra, but... meh.

I agree. I'm stuffed if I'm paying Foxtel just for HD.
 

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i got a samsung 58 inch full hd tv and sd sport is disgusting. have a look at sentanta when you get a chance. looks like a internet feed.
 
How many people own full HD TVs that big though? Mine's 37in and I kind of wish I'd bought the next size down.

My parents have a 47in Sony Bravia and I feel like I'm at the cinemas when I watch it. I don't think I've ever seen a TV over about 50 inches except in stores.
 
How many people own full HD TVs that big though? Mine's 37in and I kind of wish I'd bought the next size down.

My parents have a 47in Sony Bravia and I feel like I'm at the cinemas when I watch it. I don't think I've ever seen a TV over about 50 inches except in stores.

I have 2 52" TV's, both with Foxtel HD. There's absolutely no doubt that the quality of SD is far and away worse then HD. It definitely affects my ability to enjoy a broadcast. Sure you can see the ball and the court lines etc etc, but the picture is nowhere near as crisp and clean, which for me, enhances my ability to enjoy sporting coverage. Fox Sports HD is amazing in this respect.

The fact is, we got away with it all these years because we never had wide screen/digital television. The current TV's that are being produced look distorted with SD because of the size. The bigger they are, the worse the quality seems to get. I wish some of the networks would pull their finger out of their arse and look after the viewers.

On another note, kudos to Seven today for showing the tennis on 7Two. In circumstances such as these, sport has to take a backseat, but for those of us who still want to follow what is happening in the tennis whilst the disasters up North unfold, it's great that we have the opportunity to do so. Well done Seven. :thumbsu:
 
On another note, kudos to Seven today for showing the tennis on 7Two. In circumstances such as these, sport has to take a backseat, but for those of us who still want to follow what is happening in the tennis whilst the disasters up North unfold, it's great that we have the opportunity to do so. Well done Seven. :thumbsu:

Done a great job today. Great that they were able to shift Tennis to a multichannel.
 
I have 2 52" TV's, both with Foxtel HD. There's absolutely no doubt that the quality of SD is far and away worse then HD. It definitely affects my ability to enjoy a broadcast. Sure you can see the ball and the court lines etc etc, but the picture is nowhere near as crisp and clean, which for me, enhances my ability to enjoy sporting coverage. Fox Sports HD is amazing in this respect.

The fact is, we got away with it all these years because we never had wide screen/digital television. The current TV's that are being produced look distorted with SD because of the size. The bigger they are, the worse the quality seems to get. I wish some of the networks would pull their finger out of their arse and look after the viewers.
If the image is really that bad (and I disagree, my housemate had a 50in full HD TV and I didn't have a huge issue with the picture compared to my previous CRT), surely that's the consumer's fault in buying a product that doesn't cater effectively to the service being provided?

It's like buying a colour TV in the early 60s and complaining because full colour broadcasting didn't come in for another 10 years.

On another note, kudos to Seven today for showing the tennis on 7Two. In circumstances such as these, sport has to take a backseat, but for those of us who still want to follow what is happening in the tennis whilst the disasters up North unfold, it's great that we have the opportunity to do so. Well done Seven. :thumbsu:
To be fair, I don't think that any channel would have done any different. Has more to do with the fact the Sydney International isn't on the anti-siphoning list than anything else.
 
If the image is really that bad (and I disagree, my housemate had a 50in full HD TV and I didn't have a huge issue with the picture compared to my previous CRT), surely that's the consumer's fault in buying a product that doesn't cater effectively to the service being provided?

It's like buying a colour TV in the early 60s and complaining because full colour broadcasting didn't come in for another 10 years.

That's a poor example because other countries show sports in HD, so it's not like the technology is not there.
 

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shit thing is the uk uses nine hd cricked feed. they get it in hd. if you cant broadcast it in hd show the hd stuff on foxtel simple.

this country is going more and more backwards.
 
The US and parts of Europe were half a decade or more ahead of Australia in terms of colour TV implementation, so I think the comparison is apt.
But there's no reason they should be today...are the TV channels just stingy?
 
No idea. Probably just demand based.

I'd be interested to see the number of people with full-HD televisions, and then the percentage of those who actually care massively about the difference between SD and HD. I'm guessing that the numbers are not exactly overwhelming.

Demand will probably increase after the digital switchover is completed.
 
A mate has got the same tv as mine, except he has HD foxtel and I have SD foxtel. There is a big difference and it is much more enjoyable to watch in full HD and there is a significant difference.
 
But see, this forum is mainly populated by young, technology-driven men who are all of us obsessed with televised sport. Not exactly representative of the population.

My parents have only just recently bought their first TV that receives a digital broadcast, replacing their CRT set of almost 20 years. It's a top-of-the-range Sony Bravia, but honestly they couldn't give two shits about HD - they're just excited about having a flatscreen, digital feed, and extra channels. Even my dad (who watches a ton of rugby and cricket) isn't too bothered by the difference between SD and HD quality. As far as he's concerned, 'SD digital is as good as anybody could reasonably need'.

I don't think the demand for HD will be there until the majority of the population stop seeing it as a luxury and more as a basic level of service that should be provided. And I don't think that will happen for quite a while.
 
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