Apple Isle Showdown: Tas Govt threatens to end Hawks, North deals if no plan for 19th side

[beema limapep]

Some of the smaller Melbourne teams are lucky to get 20,000 to a game vs an interstate team. That’s why they try to sell those games.

The Suns and Giants are lucky to get 15,000.

If we theres any Melbourne based team in the gun based on 2019 low crowds, its North then Stk.

 

[madmug]

I think the AFL has more than enough on its plate than worrying about expanding into Tasmania. The next few years should be about survival and damage minimisation for existing clubs rather than risky expansion. Several clubs including mine will potentially be on a cliffs edge if there are no/limited crowds and if members and sponsors start walking away.

The 'plan' is for 5 years. Not next week. NPlenty of time to commit & build. We've had enough BS & obfuscation.

The AFL will be hounded in the media until they give a firm answer.

If its no forever, then have the guts to say it & wear the comment from the media, politicians & the majority of the footy public.

North & Hawks can go beg in Townsville, Alice Springs or wherever for money.

 

[eastfreo75]

Gold Coast average at marvel 23k mcg 27k. GWS is 19k at marvel and 27k at mcg.

If we theres any Melbourne based team in the gun based on 2019 low crowds, its North then Stk.
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Interesting what the median crowds were?

 

[sherb]

If a TAS club was created Sherb who would you support when they played Carlton?

I think I would cross that bridge when I come to it, I just want to see the Tassie side happen first.

50+ years of supporting Carlton vs a club finally representing my home state. Difficult.

 

[The_Reaper]

Hypothetical - If Tasmania had exclusive rights to Tasmanian players and had a team (positions as examples only) in 2020:-

B:- J Howe, J Kolodjasnij, J Webster
HB:- G Birchall, L Jones, A Pierce
C:- M Robinson, H Greenwood, A Hall
HF:- L Weller J Riewoldt, R Fox
F:- B Mihocek, B Brown, H Dixon
R:- Nankervis, L Weller T, T Thomas
I:- A Phillips, C Jones, T Bellchambers

They won't

 

[Kwality]

I think you're going to have to live with that. The 'solution' is to have more clubs. Mergers and relocations of Melbourne clubs are most unlikely.

Indeed, the AFL under Goyder & McLachlan have no appetite to address fairness in the competition, & appear likely to take the extra team approach every time, right up to 22 teams.

 

[sherb]

Good old Telsor coming on a thread bagging out Tasmania what a surprise

Yes, a huge surprise.

 

[Roylion]

Indeed, the AFL under Goyder & McLachlan.....appear likely to take the extra team approach every time, right up to 22 teams.

And quite rightly.

 

[Papa G]

Yes, a huge surprise.

You would have thought being on the Bendigo Mardi Gra committee would keep her busy.

 

[Kwality]

Every state has had significant public money put into new stadiums. The last one built in Melbourne was for soccer

See the GF deal. Convened by the State Govt offering bags of gold for an even bigger payday on the back of a national competition.

 

[Pessimistic]

See the GF deal. Convened by the State Govt offering bags of gold for an even bigger payday on the back of a national competition.

......which means we don’t need tassie. Full circle

 

[kaiserchief13]

No vic side will fold.

Tasmania Cats

 

[Kwality]

And quite rightly.

We disagree over what should constitute footy at the highest level, reflecting your VFL history.

 

[Kwality]

......which means we don’t need tassie. Full circle

We owe it to Tassie footy.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Tasmania Cats

You complete idiot.

- New stadium
- Only team in the city
- Loyal fanbase
- 162 years history in the region.

But yeah we’ll move for some reason

 

[Roylion]

We disagree over what should constitute footy at the highest level, reflecting your VFL history.

Relcoations and mergers just won't be happening. The pragmatic view is to add more non-Victorian teams over time.

 

[Papa G]

Relcoations and mergers just won't be happening. The pragmatic view is to add more non-Victorian teams over time.

Surely a hipster Semi pro league consisting of Fitzroy , Melbourne, North and the old VFA teams would be awesome?

 

[Roylion]

Surely a hipster Semi pro league consisting of Fitzroy , Melbourne, North and the old VFA teams would be awesome?

How's that going to happen? Realistically.

 

[Papa G]

How's that going to happen? Realistically.

Should happen. Bottom end VFL legacy teams in a league more appropriate. Cans and darts on the terrace. Fitzroy back in the fold....Fantastic.

 

[Sherrinator]

Hawks play 7 games in Tas, 4 at the G. Technically a Tassie team then.

 

[Roylion]

Should happen. Bottom end VFL legacy teams in a league more appropriate. Cans and darts on the terrace. Fitzroy back in the fold....Fantastic.

It's not going to.

 

[Lip Gallagher]

What happens if there's a head count?

 

[mouncey2franklin]

I think the AFL should do whatever nets Gil and his mates the most $ over the next five / ten / twenty years.

Gil and the Melbourne Uni Old Boys at the top of AFL House have worked hard to reach the peak of the AFL bureaucracy.

They deserve every red cent they can milk from the teat of the behemoth which is the modern AFL organisation.

If that means that we, the fans, are stooged out of a fair competition, or even the club we grew up supporting, well then so be it.

Do you think Gil's next investment property is just going to buy itself? Come on now, be sensible.

Will a new Tassie side net more $$$ for Gil and his mates? I highly doubt it.

Sorry Taswegians, maybe try your luck with the A-League.

Their operating costs are much, much lower. You might be able to buy your way in.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Yeah and we still have more paid up AFL club members then both Queensland clubs and Sydney clubs combined yet they have populations 4-5 times more then Tasmania population numbers can be misleading

You've said this a few times. But you're yet to provide a source.

You do realise to back up your claim it would take 1 in every 4 Tasmanian's being a paid up member.
And 1 in every 13 members in the country to be from Tasmania.

If you said the 2 Queensland clubs (45k) combined I'd consider believing you and let it go through to the keeper, But I struggle to believe you have more members than even just the NSW clubs (79k) But all of them? 124k? I call bullshit.

 

[kreglze]

Was happy for Tasmania to get a team until they decided their strategy was to just undermine the Suns at every turn, and push their case by riling up the traditional base of supporters whenever they get a chance.