Article on Tarrant and Solomon

[Roundhouse]

Aslong as you have got a gun like Pavlich, you can build a team around him. With the right recruiting Freo can be a finals force a lot longer than 2 years. Infact in 2 years Freo will be probably at it's peak.

Spot on there kolchak. The majority of our best 22 will still be there in 5 years time.

Bell, and Famer are the only irreplacables that look set to depart in the next 2-3 years, and the natural improvement in our younger players should mean we are able to cover for them somewhat. Add to that draft picks, rookie listings and the recruitment of talented West Aussies who are keen on returning home, and the future is looking good in the short, and medium term.

 

[theGav56]

No i think they'll play thomas and medhurst through the midfield.Fraser is more a forward option to take over from tarrant,once we get our ruck options happening.We have richards who is a dud ,we must pick up a tall ruck option in the draft to release fraser.

Can anyone else see the problems in this line of thinking? Or should I say, can anyone else NOT see the problems with this line of thinking.

Medhurst does not do well in the midfield. He plays best as the main option in a forward line with a game plan that is to some extent structured around him. In this mode he was our leading goalkicker for a few years and has done well for Claremont. When we discovered that it was not consistently winning us games and he was required to diversify his role, incl;uding getting into the midfield, we have done well, using a structure that is more traditional and dependant on tall forwards as a first option. Medhurst has however gone backwards since then.

As for the Fraser plan, with him replacing Tarrant, are you seriously thinking you're going to be recruiting a 17-18 year old as your number one ruckman? Yes he's an option to take over from Tarrant, but he is not one you can afford to take. And he is a better option up forward because he is an ordinary ruckman.

Thomas into the midfield will happen, especially as you already have too many small forward specialists, but he will struggle until his body matures. He looks like a perfect small forward to me, but because you don't need him to play that role, he will go midfield in bursts. Great to have small forwards who can do this for extended periods. Pity that Medhurst and Davis can't.

 

[daics cousin]

ok freo could be at it's peak in 2 years.However i was talking about depth in a few years to come.Collingwood is rebuilding a young side again.We need a strong bodied ruckman,who could take over and play the ruck consistently and 2 tall backmen to replace presti and wakelin .Don't forget we are the wealthiest club in the league.I think you guys may underestimate how medhurst will play.As i said he is a bonus to us.Our midfield problems will be addressed in this draft and possibly our ruck options.We will rebuild and in 2 to 3 years we will challenge for a Flag.
Personally I believe you guys won't win a flag with connelly coaching.You may when someone like Harvey takes over.

 

[theGav56]

ok freo could be at it's peak in 2 years.However i was talking about depth in a few years to come.Collingwood is rebuilding a young side again.We need a strong bodied ruckman,who could take over and play the ruck consistently and 2 tall backmen to replace presti and wakelin .Don't forget we are the wealthiest club in the league.I think you guys may underestimate how medhurst will play.As i said he is a bonus to us.Our midfield problems will be addressed in this draft and possibly our ruck options.We will rebuild and in 2 to 3 years we will challenge for a Flag.
Personally I believe you guys won't win a flag with connelly coaching.You may when someone like Harvey takes over.

Reality is, I don't care how Medhurst plays. Good luck to him whatever happens. And yes we have recruited to play for a flag within the next 1-4 years, in the knoweldge that we are not dependant on a cluster of star players in the twilight of their careers. All going well we can keep the window open for a sustained period.

Fascinating that you bag Connolly, when you have the current coach with the worst record of rebuilding (which is the mode you think you are in) in the history of the game. In contrast, Connolly has taken a team that was a basket case and has forged a strong list, with a great recent record against your mob. Add to that, the club has now recruited players which will make our forward line awesome, at the expense of your forward line. If you think that you're rebuilding for 2-3 years time, Rocca won't be a significant contributer. He rarely is now.

 

[daics cousin]

I am not bagging connelly .He hasn't turned things around i believe that Harvey is the man that has done all the work behind the scenes with a lot of the players.He has instilled the confidence and belief that freo are a great team and turned things around.Things started turning around for your team when Harvey arrived.Plus grand finals are won on the MCG not Subiaco...and your record on the g has not been that great.

 

[kolchak]

I am not bagging connelly .He hasn't turned things around i believe that Harvey is the man that has done all the work behind the scenes with a lot of the players.He has instilled the confidence and belief that freo are a great team and turned things around.Things started turning around for your team when Harvey arrived.Plus grand finals are won on the MCG not Subiaco...and your record on the g has not been that great.

Did Collingwood beat Freo at the 'G' this year?

Seem to recall Collingwood got the old heave ho!

Good post though I'm sure the senior coach had abosultely nothing to do with Freo's success.

 

[Kapow!!!]

and your record on the g has not been that great.

This single statement proved you know nothing of Fremantle and have no right being on here having a go at Freo.

 

[blockerhall]

Which record on the G would that be- our losing record?

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

I am not bagging connelly .He hasn't turned things around i believe that Harvey is the man that has done all the work behind the scenes with a lot of the players.He has instilled the confidence and belief that freo are a great team and turned things around.Things started turning around for your team when Harvey arrived.Plus grand finals are won on the MCG not Subiaco...and your record on the g has not been that great.

It's an interesting statement to make that Connolly isn't responsible -- it's down to Harvey. There's no evidence that can prove this either way.

What most Freo supporters have done -- and many who were calling for him to go, me included -- is accept that because Connolly IS the Head Coach he gets the credit. We can't blame him for losing, and then give the credit to someone else when we start winning.

As for Connolly having done nothing. We won two games in 2001, and had a list of very average players. And we had no money. Name a club that has come as far as we have in 5 years.

 

[Karlostj]

It's an interesting statement to make that Connolly isn't responsible -- it's down to Harvey. There's no evidence that can prove this either way.

What most Freo supporters have done -- and many who were calling for him to go, me included -- is accept that because Connolly IS the Head Coach he gets the credit. We can't blame him for losing, and then give the credit to someone else when we start winning.

As for Connolly having done nothing. We won two games in 2001, and had a list of very average players. And we had no money. Name a club that has come as far as we have in 5 years.

St Kilda won 2 games in 2000 (were also 2nd bottom in 2002) - since then have played in about 3 prelims and have turned their club around financially in the flooded Melbourne market....

The Eagles haven't done too badly in the last 5 years (5 wins in 2001)....

The Dogs as well..... I think they were bottom in 2003 (3 wins) and 2nd bottom in 2004.... Again have made big in roads financially in a flooded Melbourne market...

The Dockers have turned the club around from 2001 - but it hasn't been that quick....

Money wise, the Dockers were never really going to be in trouble long term - not with half a state behind them!

 

[theGav56]

St Kilda won 2 games in 2000 (were also 2nd bottom in 2002) - since then have played in about 3 prelims and have turned their club around financially in the flooded Melbourne market....

The Eagles haven't done too badly in the last 5 years (5 wins in 2001)....

The Dogs as well..... I think they were bottom in 2003 (3 wins) and 2nd bottom in 2004.... Again have made big in roads financially in a flooded Melbourne market...

The Dockers have turned the club around from 2001 - but it hasn't been that quick....

Money wise, the Dockers were never really going to be in trouble long term - not with half a state behind them!

Well, name four teams that have done it then!

 

[Karlostj]

Well, name four teams that have done it then!

Richmond were 2nd bottom in 2004.... They're on the rebound...

Although hopefully they'll faulter at every hurdle....

 

[Tommo]

I am not bagging connelly .He hasn't turned things around i believe that Harvey is the man that has done all the work behind the scenes with a lot of the players.He has instilled the confidence and belief that freo are a great team and turned things around.Things started turning around for your team when Harvey arrived.Plus grand finals are won on the MCG not Subiaco...and your record on the g has not been that great.

Just to educate you since CC has been in charge freo's winning percentage at the G is 58%.
while west coast over that same period have a 50% winning record including the Grand final win last year.

So you could say CC's game plan plays the G better than the team that won the cup last year.

Plus what was the margin between our two teams at the end of the last game we had at the G

 

[daics cousin]

ok freo supporters, i know more about your club than you think.Let me take you back to about a quarter of the way through the season 2006.When you guys coached by connelly,had lost afew games and were looking like the players were not interested.Connely's head was on the chopping block and you guys were the laughing stock here in melbourne.i have it on good authority that Harvey stepped in had a lot of strong words to all your players (and i won't get into what was said).then strangely enough things started to change.Isn't that strange and how long has connelley been your head coach?Maybe he really hasn't got the respect from the players that you guys think?

 

[theGav56]

daics-cousin, you are seriously devoid of all credibilty, and you have lost every debate on this thread. Now you are resorting to the "I have it on good authority" line (which is usually code for I read it in a bigfooty post), which of course is the argument of last resort.

I do love it though when other club supporters show a fascination for the Dockers, displaying their secret wish to jump on the bandwagon. And why wouldn't you leap of the Wobbly Wagon and onto ours.

 

[bfff]

i have it on good authority that Harvey stepped in had a lot of strong words to all your players (and i won't get into what was said).then strangely enough things started to change.

So he should, he is a coach. Please tell us what was said. I want to know what magic spell he cast on the players. Maybe you could give Mick a call and let him know Harvey's secret.

 

[dominguez]

ok freo supporters, i know more about your club than you think.Let me take you back to about a quarter of the way through the season 2006.When you guys coached by connelly,had lost afew games and were looking like the players were not interested.Connely's head was on the chopping block and you guys were the laughing stock here in melbourne.i have it on good authority that Harvey stepped in had a lot of strong words to all your players (and i won't get into what was said).then strangely enough things started to change.Isn't that strange and how long has connelley been your head coach?Maybe he really hasn't got the respect from the players that you guys think?

Since you know everything can I please have tonights powerball numbers?