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TheDyerLegacy

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Richmond is striving to create a ‘Strong and Bold’ future and the Fighting Tiger Fund (FTF) has established itself as a critical platform to support sustainable success.

The FTF has been able to provide the Club with more coaches, resources and equipment for our players to perform both on and off the field, but the job is not done. Richmond is calling on you to do what you can to make this football club better......(extract from the Fighter Tiger Fund)


I have been reading the Tom Harley autobiography, which I picked up for free by the way. He mentions how Geelong was on it's knees and when Frank Costa come in he went out and recruited the best coaches and staff, he states not the best available the BEST.

I am a little unsure what this Fighting Tiger Fund is doing at the moment. I contributed, not the large amount others would of but in my financial situation it took some re-budgeting. Looking at our current assistant coaches;

Brendon Lade (Forwards coach)
Danny Daly (Midfield Stoppage Coach)
Ross Smith (Defensive Analyst)
Mark Williams (Midfield Spread Coach)
Mark 'Choco' Williams (Senior development coach)
Greg Mellor (Defenders Development Coach)
Tim Clarke (Development/VFL Coach)
Andrew McQualter (Development Coach - Midfield Spread)
Max Bailey (Development Coach - Forward/Rucks)

Out of those coaches, I will just provide a little history on them.
Lade; Previously was the ruck/stoppages coach at the club, after Leppitsch's departure been a reshuffle and now the forwards coach. Went straight into coaching after retiring with us joining his old teammate Hardwick.

Daly; Previously was the Forwards coach now in control of the midfield stoppages. Been with us since Hardwick took the reigns. Worked at Collingwood as a Forward scout before joining the Roos.

Smith; Held the defensive analyst role since joining us from Hawthorn. Has spent time coaching in the TAC and state leagues then joined Hawthorn and was an assistant coach with Hardwick during the 08' flag.

Williams; Highlight of his coaching career was coaching Sandringham to a 3-peat in the VFL. Then joined Melbourne's coaching staff and was in charge of the midfield and development. I feel we have recruited a lot of staff from Melbourne, recruiting from the BEST!

Choco; As we all should know coached Port to a flag spent time at GWS as senior assistant and was meant to take the reigns but Sheedy took on another year. In charge of the development of our 1-3 year players.

Mellor; Joined from West Adelaide where he was an Assistant coach and in charge of development.

Clarke; Previously worked at the club as a development coach then spent time overseas only to return and coach our VFL side.

McQualter; After being delisted by the Saints spent a year at the Suns before retiring and joining us as a Development coach.

Bailey; Had a injury plagued career but did finish a premiership player in a very good side. Seems to continue our obsession with Hawthorn.

I will provide a link to a list of AFL team squads which includes Assistant coaches. Some teams haven't been updated to 2014.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_AFL_team_squads

There are a lot of quality coaches working at other clubs that are worth poaching if we are serious. Even ex-players in the Media ala Ling. I know he rejected the Melbourne role but that's Melbourne.

Coaches I would like us to look at;
Forwards;
Brad Ottens
Nathan Basset
Peter Sumich

Midfield/Ruck;
Mark Bickley
Robert Harvey
Stuart Dew
Michael Voss
Darren Jolly
Jude Bolton

Defense;
Leigh Tudor
Darren Milburn
Chad Cornes
Matthew Egan

Development;
Matthew Knights
Brett Ratten
Gary Aryres
Neil Craig

Obviously the recruitment of strong coaches would be difficult but as I mentioned at the start isn't that what the FTF was/is all about.

As Benny G said we need to be AGGRESSIVE in our approach to reach the top. This doesn't just go for our coaches but also recruiting but I will leave that for another thread....
 
Certainly some talent in your list TheDyerLegacy . I don't think we can afford not to consider the coaches or potential coaches you have mentioned. I'm not sure any area of the club should be excluded from some kind of review process.
 

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Would love us to go after Ben Hart.
 
IMO this is a major problem, most of these assistants are coaching out of their depth. Bailey and McQualter are straight out of the game with very little credentials and coaching experience, piss them off. Tucky would be a better choice. Lade, was a good ruckman and should be ruck and stoppage coach only, not forward. Mellor, Clarke, Williams and Daly seem to be thrown around with no real expertise, Smith and Chocco are more than Qualified to coach their respective fields and are the only two worth keeping. Who is coaching the coaches, How can they swap fields every year and expect our players to evolve. Leppa is sorely missed. A major reshuffle is in order because we are going backwards this year. Need assistants that are specialists in each field and were very confident as players. I would love to see somenone like Wayne Carey working with Griff and TV. In everyday life, I dont really like cockiness but in this case It will rub off onto these confidence players. What about Knighta, legend at the club and would know a thing or two about the game. Whats he up to nowadays?
 
I've said it before. We need to get Vossy to take care of the midfield. He stated on fox the other day when he gets to a club he is in balls and all. He hopes if he does do this that the club is all aligned from pres to boot studder with 1 goal in mind. Flags. Get it done benny. And piss of Williams back to the VFL.
 
Dermie?


Not a fan.
He was a gun player for the club in the 90's. How could you not be a fan. He tarnished is clean cut image though when he coached the druggos and unfortunately may never live it down. I reckon he would be great as a midfield stoppage coach.
 
He was a gun player for the club in the 90's. How could you not be a fan. He tarnished is clean cut image though when he coached the druggos and unfortunately may never live it down. I reckon he would be great as a midfield stoppage coach.
Was a massive fan of his as player, I even wore his number on my back. I'm not a fan of getting him back as a coach. if you believe half what you hear about him, he is somewhat from the Malthouse school of personality.
 

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IMO this is a major problem, most of these assistants are coaching out of their depth. Bailey and McQualter are straight out of the game with very little credentials and coaching experience, piss them off. Tucky would be a better choice. Lade, was a good ruckman and should be ruck and stoppage coach only, not forward. Mellor, Clarke, Williams and Daly seem to be thrown around with no real expertise, Smith and Chocco are more than Qualified to coach their respective fields and are the only two worth keeping. Who is coaching the coaches, How can they swap fields every year and expect our players to evolve. Leppa is sorely missed. A major reshuffle is in order because we are going backwards this year. Need assistants that are specialists in each field and were very confident as players. I would love to see somenone like Wayne Carey working with Griff and TV. In everyday life, I dont really like cockiness but in this case It will rub off onto these confidence players. What about Knighta, legend at the club and would know a thing or two about the game. Whats he up to nowadays?

Well said.
 
Why didn't they put Daly as forwards coach and Lade as midfield/stoppages coach?
Has Dimma written all over it.

Just like the players the coaches need to learn how to coach in different positions:oops:
 
How does anyone here know anything about these coaches? Most of you are commenting on how the players were as players....playing football has nothing to do with coaching ability. Lol

Having said that, I'd rather assistant coaches with proven 'tactical' records, guys like Grant Thomas or Terry Wallace. Only problem is guys like that probably have egos too big to fit in as an assistant coach role and it probably can't work.

My only problem with the current coaching group is that they seem to be very vanilla, never think outside the box...and unfortunately the strict, play tough motivation that Dimma first brought seems to be wearing off. Guys from other clubs, playing for their lives like Thomas seem to be the only guys having a dip. But is that coach or player?

Wwho really knows. Maybe the playing group are just numbsculls because we started from too far back? Who really knows. This coaching group may be far superior to any other group in the league. As a poster said in another thread, we dont hear the addresses, we dont know the instructions. If a teams inconsistent and fail to play the structures it's probably not the coaches fault...i duno
 
IMO this is a major problem, most of these assistants are coaching out of their depth. Bailey and McQualter are straight out of the game with very little credentials and coaching experience, piss them off. Tucky would be a better choice. Lade, was a good ruckman and should be ruck and stoppage coach only, not forward. Mellor, Clarke, Williams and Daly seem to be thrown around with no real expertise, Smith and Chocco are more than Qualified to coach their respective fields and are the only two worth keeping. Who is coaching the coaches, How can they swap fields every year and expect our players to evolve. Leppa is sorely missed. A major reshuffle is in order because we are going backwards this year. Need assistants that are specialists in each field and were very confident as players. I would love to see somenone like Wayne Carey working with Griff and TV. In everyday life, I dont really like cockiness but in this case It will rub off onto these confidence players. What about Knighta, legend at the club and would know a thing or two about the game. Whats he up to nowadays?
I think Lade when ruck coach was trying to train our ruckmen to be a clone of himself ,which was sending them backwards at a massive rate .
The days of gaining body contact at centre bounces and trying to muscle them out of the contest , similar to a boundary throw in is gone .
I believe Lade is a nice guy just not really cut for the gig , some will laugh but have heard glowing reports of Jack King's knowledge of the game .
 
I think Lade when ruck coach was trying to train our ruckmen to be a clone of himself ,which was sending them backwards at a massive rate .
The days of gaining body contact at centre bounces and trying to muscle them out of the contest , similar to a boundary throw in is gone .
I believe Lade is a nice guy just not really cut for the gig , some will laugh but have heard glowing reports of Jack King's knowledge of the game .


I have NFI about these coaches but Jake King's body can only let him do so much and here is a guy that has got the most and best out of himself on the field within the rules. In that sense he can't be a fool or a moron!
 
IMO this is a major problem, most of these assistants are coaching out of their depth. Bailey and McQualter are straight out of the game with very little credentials and coaching experience, piss them off. Tucky would be a better choice. Lade, was a good ruckman and should be ruck and stoppage coach only, not forward. Mellor, Clarke, Williams and Daly seem to be thrown around with no real expertise, Smith and Chocco are more than Qualified to coach their respective fields and are the only two worth keeping. Who is coaching the coaches, How can they swap fields every year and expect our players to evolve. Leppa is sorely missed. A major reshuffle is in order because we are going backwards this year. Need assistants that are specialists in each field and were very confident as players. I would love to see somenone like Wayne Carey working with Griff and TV. In everyday life, I dont really like cockiness but in this case It will rub off onto these confidence players. What about Knighta, legend at the club and would know a thing or two about the game. Whats he up to nowadays?

Last I heard knights was geelongs vfl coach ...
 

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