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Scham said:
He is a thug of a player, you're right but I think he's got all the ingredients to make a successful coach and if that helps us win a premiership with him in our coaching team, I'm willing to live with that.
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I don't see it. He's as dumb as bat shit. Coaches need to know how to communicate and teach.
 

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rgauci said:
I don't see it. He's as dumb as bat shit. Coaches need to know how to communicate and teach.
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Most AFL players tend to disagree with you. He's got an elite footy IQ and reads the play brilliantly. His game sense and knowledge is incredible. Sure, he's not the most likeable bloke but how many people thought/think Crowley is a campaigner despite most people who meet him thinking the opposite.

Literally every hawks player rants and raves about Hodge being a big reason for the 3peat. He also was pretty gracious in his winning gf speech to us in 2013.
 
Dump Truck said:
If we get JLo and Hodge this off-season as coaches I'd be more then happy. Would also love Robert Harvey or Scott Camporeale if we're going more proven coaches. I think Hodge would be amazing to teach Ryan, Hughes, Logue, Nyhuis etc. Would definitely add something.
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I think Harvey's survived and staying at the Pies.

blue shark said:
Joel Corey at the bulldogs, should also be on the list. Hodge will have his pick of clubs, but JLo we should be chasing
hard.
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Joel'd be a good one to get over. I'm not sure if he'd want to move back to Perth though. Even since juniors he had such a good footy brain, and he's a great bloke too!
JLo would be the dream acquisition too. Come back home!!!
 
So apparently McVeigh is going to be playing one more year and then coaching for 3 years at Sydney. God damn it I would of loved to have got him this year. I guess it's time for us to lure Hodge over and rid the bottom barrel ex-Hawthorn players in our coaching system. Please don't go into media.
 
What ever way we need to do a Tigers" and have a huge clean out. But sadly that won't happen and will will still be below average irrespective of the "4 yr rebuild"

There are players and there are better players similarly there are assistants and there are better assistants
 
wehavethepassion said:
What ever way we need to do a Tigers" and have a huge clean out. But sadly that won't happen and will will still be below average irrespective of the "4 yr rebuild"

There are players and there are better players similarly there are assistants and there are better assistants
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Def on the Money WHTP. There are better assistants out there, we need to just bite the bullet and go and find/approach the better ones.
 

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Talking Dockers said:
Def on the Money WHTP. There are better assistants out there, we need to just bite the bullet and go and find/approach the better ones.
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Didn't sound likely from Bond's interview on 720 ABC. All remaining coaches are under contract but he did say they haven't finished deciding on the coaching structure for next year, so a shuffle of roles by the sound of it.
 
wehavethepassion said:
What ever way we need to do a Tigers" and have a huge clean out. But sadly that won't happen and will will still be below average irrespective of the "4 yr rebuild"

There are players and there are better players similarly there are assistants and there are better assistants
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Have been thinking about this all weekend.

After watching the four finals games this weekend it's clear it's not just a case of young players improving and plan tweaking, the old 'I thought *insert mediocre player here* did alright tonight' just doesn't fly anymore.

The game is evolving at a colossal speed and we need to push eject and fly higher than we did at the end of 2011.

I'm concerned because we haven't heard of more coaching changes yet (for players I can understand while Peel's still around) - and I'm concerned there's not going to be much more. Rather than middle-aged yes men like Rock we need youthful and innovative assistants to provide the inspiration to Hale, Guerra and co. We need someone to keep Ross accountable and challenge his worldview.

Surely, Surely Ross would be watching this finals series and seeing the skill-level, pinpoint accuracy and contested marking on both sides of the ground as utterly vital cogs. Surely he sees an evolving game plan that requires nothing less than sheer excellence, one iota off meaning the difference between a 1pt win and a pantsing.

Who knows...
 
StingBitten said:
Have been thinking about this all weekend.

The game is evolving at a colossal speed and we need to push eject and fly higher than we did at the end of 2011.

I'm concerned because we haven't heard of more coaching changes yet (for players I can understand while Peel's still around) - and I'm concerned there's not going to be much more. Rather than middle-aged yes men like Rock we need youthful and innovative assistants to provide the inspiration to Hale, Guerra and co. We need someone to keep Ross accountable and challenge his worldview.

Surely, Surely Ross would be watching this finals series and seeing the skill-level, pinpoint accuracy and contested marking on both sides of the ground as utterly vital cogs. Surely he sees an evolving game plan that requires nothing less than sheer excellence, one iota off meaning the difference between a 1pt win and a pantsing.

Who knows...
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I agree planning needs to be even more important than before to get an advantage in a competition that has equalized a lot. The game has changed so massively beginning at the start of 2016 (You only need to look at the amount of greats that have retired this year).

The speed of the game is insane and player skill needs to be so well balanced. One dimensionial players only get you so far and physical fitness is paramount. I cant see playing careers lasting as long as they had up until recently.

I reckon the comp will be pretty wide open for the next few years to come. Any team who fully buys in, has form and a good spread of talent and is injury free towards the pointy end of the season can be considered a serious chance (I reckon Sydney could win this year from outside the top 4). I must admit when the hawks were the team to beat it made footy results pretty boring & predictiple and any team in the top 8 now with the week off before finals can be considered a serious chance.
 

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Scham said:
Didn't sound likely from Bond's interview on 720 ABC. All remaining coaches are under contract but he did say they haven't finished deciding on the coaching structure for next year, so a shuffle of roles by the sound of it.
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Typical sh*t from Bond on the radio. Talking about structures of the footy department etc. I wish he would either grow a set and make changes where it's sorely needed or just leave.
 
StingBitten said:
Have been thinking about this all weekend.

After watching the four finals games this weekend it's clear it's not just a case of young players improving and plan tweaking, the old 'I thought *insert mediocre player here* did alright tonight' just doesn't fly anymore.

The game is evolving at a colossal speed and we need to push eject and fly higher than we did at the end of 2011.

I'm concerned because we haven't heard of more coaching changes yet (for players I can understand while Peel's still around) - and I'm concerned there's not going to be much more. Rather than middle-aged yes men like Rock we need youthful and innovative assistants to provide the inspiration to Hale, Guerra and co. We need someone to keep Ross accountable and challenge his worldview.

Surely, Surely Ross would be watching this finals series and seeing the skill-level, pinpoint accuracy and contested marking on both sides of the ground as utterly vital cogs. Surely he sees an evolving game plan that requires nothing less than sheer excellence, one iota off meaning the difference between a 1pt win and a pantsing.

Who knows...
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The big changes I have seen lately is that as soon as you have 2-3 guys who are slow, or with poor skills the entire team is exposed.

The Crows back line of Kelly, Talia and Ottens or there forward line of Lynch, Jenkins, McGovern and Walker and not one of them has poor skills or is slow.
Lynch, Walker and Kelly all have elite skills.

I think with our recruiting we need to go early with talls, but only if they are mobile and have good to elite skills.
 
go_the_dockers said:
The big changes I have seen lately is that as soon as you have 2-3 guys who are slow, or with poor skills the entire team is exposed.

The Crows back line of Kelly, Talia and Ottens or there forward line of Lynch, Jenkins, McGovern and Walker and not one of them has poor skills or is slow.
Lynch, Walker and Kelly all have elite skills.
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Clearly the Crows strength is that they are the most complete team, not necessarily the best team. So many people are involved in a chain of possession, brilliant work by 4 others can come undone in a second by 1 person - and this has been Freo's bugbear for years with our reliance on depth players to make up the numbers.
 
FreoMonocle said:
Clearly the Crows strength is that they are the most complete team, not necessarily the best team. So many people are involved in a chain of possession, brilliant work by 4 others can come undone in a second by 1 person - and this has been Freo's bugbear for years with our reliance on depth players to make up the numbers.
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Agree, if you play a high possession brand of football you need an entire team that can do it. Having Lynch and Walker as your link players is such a luxury. They both kick the ball accurately 60m. That allows them to break the zone and get out the back for an easy goal.

At the moment we have 16 players who are good enough, maybe a few more but we need another 10.
 

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