Atley Vs Conca

[HerculesRockefeller]

Atley for me. Going to be a star.

 

[Engimal]

Atley for me, obviously.
But Conca's no slouch either.

 

[Kcrack]

Pretty sure there was already a thread like this (may have involved Heppell too), ended up being locked by the mods...

 

[KillaKanga]

Are they comparable players?

 

[Psicosis]

This has to be a joke?? Conca is not on the same level, nor will he ever be.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

This has to be a joke?? Conca is not on the same level, nor will he ever be.

lol probably being a bit harsh on Atley, yes Conca is ahead of him but you're being a bit premature to write Atley off saying he will never match Conca's level. Both are still very young and have plenty of time ahead of them.

 

[KillaKanga]

lol probably being a bit harsh on Atley, yes Conca is ahead of him but you're being a bit premature to write Atley off saying he will never match Conca's level. Both are still very young and have plenty of time ahead of them.

ha good one!!!!!!!!

 

[The Bomb]

Richmond

ELITE
Brett Deledio midfielder
Trent Cotchin midfielder
Shane Tuck midfielder
Ivan Maric ruck
Jack Riewoldt forward
Bachar Houli defender
BELOW AVERAGE
Reece Conca midfielder
Chris Knights forward
Brandon Ellis defender
Matt White midfielder
Matthew Dea defender
Ben Griffiths defender
POOR
David Astbury defender
Brett O'Hanlon forward
Bradley Helbig midfielder


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-sixpack-rates-a-mention-20130306-2flk2.html#ixzz2MotIAI8P

 

[NUFC Tiger]

ha good one!!!!!!!!

Cheers!

Career comparison to date:

Matches played:
Conca 35, Atley 39

Avg Kicks:
9.7, 7.6

Avg Hballs:
7.8, 8.7

Avg disposals:
17.5, 16.2

Avg marks:
4, 2.3

Avg tackles:
2.5, 2.2

Career goals:
5, 5

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare...ca&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&SelectedPlayers=

 

[Kcrack]

OP already started the Richmond vs North thread, why not ask in there? I'd guess he's just hoping for another shit fight..

 

[KillaKanga]

Richmond

ELITE
Brett Deledio midfielder
Trent Cotchin midfielder
Shane Tuck midfielder
Ivan Maric ruck
Jack Riewoldt forward
Bachar Houli defender
BELOW AVERAGE
Reece Conca midfielder
Chris Knights forward
Brandon Ellis defender
Matt White midfielder
Matthew Dea defender
Ben Griffiths defender
POOR
David Astbury defender
Brett O'Hanlon forward
Bradley Helbig midfielder


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-sixpack-rates-a-mention-20130306-2flk2.html#ixzz2MotIAI8P

interesting, is there one of those for each team?

It seems to jump from elite to below average. Also drawing a long bow with some of the 6 'elites'.

 

[the big lebowski]

Cheers!

Career comparison to date:

Matches played:
Conca 35, Atley 39

Avg Kicks:
9.7, 7.6

Avg Hballs:
7.8, 8.7

Avg disposals:
17.5, 16.2

Avg marks:
4, 2.3

Avg tackles:
2.5, 2.2

Career goals:
5, 5

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=&Compare=Go&PlayerName1=shaun atley&PlayerName2=reece conca&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&SelectedPlayers=

And the point of the numbers above is?

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Richmond

ELITE
Brett Deledio midfielder
Trent Cotchin midfielder
Shane Tuck midfielder
Ivan Maric ruck
Jack Riewoldt forward
Bachar Houli defender
BELOW AVERAGE
Reece Conca midfielder
Chris Knights forward
Brandon Ellis defender
Matt White midfielder
Matthew Dea defender
Ben Griffiths defender
POOR
David Astbury defender
Brett O'Hanlon forward
Bradley Helbig midfielder


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-sixpack-rates-a-mention-20130306-2flk2.html#ixzz2MotIAI8P

Essendon

ELITE
Jobe Watson midfielder
Brendon Goddard midfielder
Brent Stanton midfielder
BELOW AVERAGE
Jake Melksham midfielder
Nathan Lovett-Murray midfielder
Jason Winderlich forward
Tayte Pears defender
Alex Browne defender
Travis Colyer midfielder
POOR
Cory Dell'Olio forward

Only 3 'Elite' bombers and 1 of them hasn't played a game yet! Perhaps should have held onto Houli buddy

 

[KillaKanga]

Cheers!

Career comparison to date:

Matches played:
Conca 35, Atley 39

Avg Kicks:
9.7, 7.6

Avg Hballs:
7.8, 8.7

Avg disposals:
17.5, 16.2

Avg marks:
4, 2.3

Avg tackles:
2.5, 2.2

Career goals:
5, 5

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=&Compare=Go&PlayerName1=shaun atley&PlayerName2=reece conca&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&SelectedPlayers=

All kicks are equal? Played all games in the same position?

spoil, run 30 metres kick 50 into the forward line for a goal = 10 metre kick straight to opposition?

Not saying that is a comparison between these two but comparing raw facts is iffy at best?

that or Liam Anthony is elite

 

[NUFC Tiger]

And the point of the numbers above is?

Pretty simple, Conca has done more to date in his career than Atley. Not much in it though, 2 promising young players but shows that they are in the same/similar league despite what Psicosis thinks to be a ridiculous comparison.

 

[The Bomb]

Essendon

ELITE
Jobe Watson midfielder
Brendon Goddard midfielder
Brent Stanton midfielder
BELOW AVERAGE
Jake Melksham midfielder
Nathan Lovett-Murray midfielder
Jason Winderlich forward
Tayte Pears defender
Alex Browne defender
Travis Colyer midfielder
POOR
Cory Dell'Olio forward

Only 3 'Elite' bombers and 1 of them hasn't played a game yet! Perhaps should have held onto Houli buddy

Melksham is crap, and regarding Houli if we keeped him we would not have The Pig, We Essendon supporters are still counting our lucky stars that Houli left because we got The Pig.

 

[Kcrack]

that or Liam Anthony is elite

Using stats, Liam owns Riewoldt in every category except contested marks and goals. Silly topic as one's a midfielder and one's a defender.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

interesting, is there one of those for each team?

It seems to jump from elite to below average. Also drawing a long bow with some of the 6 'elites'.

yep there is - if you can't access the article, North's one is as follows:

North Melbourne

ELITE
Andrew Swallow midfielder
Drew Petrie forward
Scott Thompson defender
BELOW AVERAGE
Jamie MacMillan midfielder
Ben Jacobs defender
Levi Greenwood midfielder
Keiran Harper forward
Aaron Mullett midfielder
Taylor Hine defender
POOR
Cameron Delaney defender


Not sure why it only showed 3 categories, surely there would be more?

 

[KillaKanga]

yep there is - if you can't access the article, North's one is as follows:

North Melbourne

ELITE
Andrew Swallow midfielder
Drew Petrie forward
Scott Thompson defender
BELOW AVERAGE
Jamie MacMillan midfielder
Ben Jacobs defender
Levi Greenwood midfielder
Keiran Harper forward
Aaron Mullett midfielder
Taylor Hine defender
POOR
Cameron Delaney defender


Not sure why it only showed 3 categories, surely there would be more?

cheers

I'm assuming the rest are considered average?

I'd probably argue Keiran Harper to a point. I think he's shown enough to be considered average to this point.

I guess a better view would be to look at who in the Below/poor catagory is regular 22

For north it's MacMillan and Harper and considering they are 37 and 36 gamers I'm pretty with them. We are also building depth in that area so will be replaced if needed. Which of the Tigers and Bombers are 22 players?

 

[the big lebowski]

cheers

I'm assuming the rest are considered average?

I'd probably argue Keiran Harper to a point. I think he's shown enough to be considered average to this point.

I guess a better view would be to look at who in the Below/poor catagory is regular 22

For north it's MacMillan and Harper and considering they are 37 and 36 gamers I'm pretty with them. We are also building depth in that area so will be replaced if needed. Which of the Tigers and Bombers are 22 players?

There is also above average.

 

[KillaKanga]

Just read article.


WHAT the hell is elite? Apparently there are 70 elite players in the AFL???? WTF?????

Peirce Hanley? Greg Broughton? Ben McEvoy is Elite ruck but Goldstein isn't? eek

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Just read article.


WHAT the hell is elite? Apparently there are 70 elite players in the AFL???? WTF?????

Peirce Hanley? Greg Broughton? Ben McEvoy is Elite ruck but Goldstein isn't? eek

I think I read elite is classified as being in the top 10% for the position that player plays in based on the champion data stats.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

cheers

I'm assuming the rest are considered average?

I'd probably argue Keiran Harper to a point. I think he's shown enough to be considered average to this point.

I guess a better view would be to look at who in the Below/poor catagory is regular 22

For north it's MacMillan and Harper and considering they are 37 and 36 gamers I'm pretty with them. We are also building depth in that area so will be replaced if needed. Which of the Tigers and Bombers are 22 players?

Of the RFC players, the ones I would consider best 22 would be

Brett Deledio midfielder
Trent Cotchin midfielder
Shane Tuck midfielder
Ivan Maric ruck
Jack Riewoldt forward
Bachar Houli defender
BELOW AVERAGE
Reece Conca midfielder
Chris Knights forward (jury is still out though, need to see more game time in pre season to make a decision).
Brandon Ellis defender

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Those elite, above average, average, below average, poor categories are all based entirely on stats for their position. Conca is below average because for his position (midfield) 19 possesions a game isn't great. Harper is below average because 8.8 disposals per game isn't very many for any position.

It doesn't take into account age, potential, sub games or impact on games. It's simply a statistical comparison. I would bet Coniglio and David Swallow are both listed as average or below average too.

 

[KillaKanga]

Are most rational supporters in agreement that North and Richmond and in a similar position?

Either way really looking forward to seeing the square off this year. Lets hope it's a close one. Either way BF will explode