Werewolf BEaston Basic* WW IV - Village Wins

[MC Bad Genius]

I was not defending Wick.
Show me where I ever defended Wick.

Just disputing your post, which to me was not clear and the way you answered it, did not clearly (to me) address all my questions and concerns . When you finally did address my questions in a way that I understood, I confirmed this.

I wasn't even fishing for you to declare your role.
You did that off your own bat.

I'll fish for you to declare your role though.

 

[BFew]

That accounts for 20 of the 22 "roles" from the start of the game. So we either have two more Good roles or two more recruited Lost Wanderers

Or there were 4 wolves and 4 mafia to start with, and all the Lost Wanderers are both accounted for and dead.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Too early in morning to think straight

I see our tracker and watcher won’t reveal names so I dont trust either of thrn

I don’t trust Zerg as he lied for too long

So basically I think due to the check of trust , lies , and tiredness must be time for flogs to use their kill tonight

There's the possibility of him being a vamp recruit, yes, but CF has proven his credentials as the Tracker. If he thinks the person he tracked last night is a good role (looking less and less likely, to be fair), then he might not want to reveal them until further info has come out. Because I'm NOT confirmed good by anyone by myself, I'm not gonna force his hand to reveal.

 

[ZergMinion]

That's an interesting one about Doctor protection for DP, as it wouldn't have prevented her from being recruited. If you were a Vamp, would the benefit of having an extra kill outweigh the recruit being targeted by the factions? I'm not sure I would do it.

Vamp would want to know they'd get a successful recruit last night, so their target would be an already outed villager given doc/flog/joat protect is only against kills.

Probably.

 

[Nothing]

Raz can you confirm that the flogs didn't recruit last night (and still only have 3 in your PM). If that's the case, then we can assume that flogs should know all the good roles (notwithstanding some trust issues and possible vamp recruits).

If you still have 3 flogs, the following (excluding the flogs you know) are the combo of evil:
BFew
MCBG - claimed watcher today
Cadsky
Zerg - claimed mayor today
MBR
IMS
MM
TWM
Porps

DP, CF, you and me could have been vamped, but we are definitely not night immune.

 

[por_please_ya]

I see your point MCBG, but like Zerg says, it would almost be a sure bet that DP was recruitable and most likely protected, which doesn't stop recruitment.

 

[myblueroan]

How do you know that there was a successful Vamp recruit last night?

I don't! I hope they missed. I posted that to say that it was a recruit night and not a kill nite and we should all be aware.

 

[Nothing]

I don't! I hope they missed. I posted that to say that it was a recruit night and not a kill nite and we should all be aware.

Quick. Dig up.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Vamp would want to know they'd get a successful recruit last night, so their target would be an already outed villager given doc/flog/joat protect is only against kills.

Probably.

I think they'd either go for Raz or have a crack at someone from Nothing's list and try to get an evil. That way they'd have access to knowledge about who else is in the faction. Or at least I think that's what I would do.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

I don't! I hope they missed. I posted that to say that it was a recruit night and not a kill nite and we should all be aware.

So what's your role?

 

[Nothing]

I think they'd either go for Raz or have a crack at someone from Nothing's list and try to get an evil. That way they'd have access to knowledge about who else is in the faction. Or at least I think that's what I would do.

It would depend on whether they had successfully recruited already. I think if you hit a faction or flogs on your first recruit, you go again. If you hit a random good role, you might then target another good role.

So what's your role?

I don't think they want to announce they are head vamp after that though.

 

[ZergMinion]

I think they'd either go for Raz or have a crack at someone from Nothing's list and try to get an evil. That way they'd have access to knowledge about who else is in the faction. Or at least I think that's what I would do.

They could have infiltrated a faction night 1 already hypothetically.

 

[ZergMinion]

It would depend on whether they had successfully recruited already. I think if you hit a faction or flogs on your first recruit, you go again. If you hit a random good role, you might then target another good role.


I don't think they want to announce they are head vamp after that though.

That could be why they didn't recruit you. They were already in a faction and digging in. Wolves could seriously be as low as two though so digging in there possibly not an option.

 

[Nothing]

That could be why they didn't recruit you. They were already in a faction and digging in. Wolves could seriously be as low as two though so digging in there possibly not an option.

They have had 2 recruiting attempts (the vamps), so even if the wolves are only 2 (they could control that faction).

 

[ZergMinion]

They have had 2 recruiting attempts (the vamps), so even if the wolves are only 2 (they could control that faction).

Heads are recruitment immune, so if the wolves are on two people, one of them can't be recruited.

 

[Nothing]

Heads are recruitment immune, so if the wolves are on two people, one of them can't be recruited.

I missed that the heads are recruitable. That changes things. Bugger.

 

[Nothing]

I missed that the heads are recruitable. That changes things. Bugger.

*not recruitable

 

[ZergMinion]

*not recruitable

Got a feeling if you weren't it then the flogs are toast. I don't think the vampires would risk failing to recruit last night on an unknown quantity. If they were already in the flogs and not on Raz, Raz might be the last flog.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Heads are recruitment immune, so if the wolves are on two people, one of them can't be recruited.

High risk, not such a high reward then, as they'd only have a 1 in 3 chance of actually recruiting someone from an evil faction last night (considering we all knew P4L was not long for this world).

So would you recruit Raz and get info on the other Flogs and potential Flog recruits? Or would you recruit someone else?

 

[por_please_ya]

I can see why village roles have been quiet because the fear of recruitment is high. Flogs def need to stay quiet. But yeah, Raz could've been taken in by now anyway.

I reckon this has been first game in a while where none of the flogs have kicked the bucket yet LOL. Sometimes you lose them all in the first two nights.

 

[ZergMinion]

High risk, not such a high reward then, as they'd only have a 1 in 3 chance of actually recruiting someone from an evil faction last night (considering we all knew P4L was not long for this world).

So would you recruit Raz and get info on the other Flogs and potential Flog recruits? Or would you recruit someone else?

If I was already in the flogs, I'd recruit another flog that wasn't Raz. If I wasn't in the flogs I'd recruit Nothing or DP. If I was trying to overthink it I'd recruit CF.

 

[por_please_ya]

By recruitment I obviously only mean Vamps.

 

[BFew]

There's no room left for 4 per evil faction.

Unless I've totally miscounted the remaining players.

Unless you are not who you say you are, and were Evil/Neutral to begin with.
Then there is room for 4 per evil faction to start with.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Unless you are not who you say you are, and were Evil/Neutral to begin with.
Then there is room for 4 per evil faction to start with.

Don't know why you keep pushing this wheelbarrow. You know for a fact whether it's 3 or 4, as you're in one of the damn factions (unless you're a Flog or Head Vampire).

 

[myblueroan]

So what's your role?

Yep. Haven't wanted to come out because we have fkc all protection and I had nothing helpful for village. Although I would have steered people off my finds or claimed if I had to.
I thought I hinted loudly yesterday that I had a good role and MC maybe did too.

N1: Nothing - JOAT
N2: DP - Vig
N3: jmoo- Doc

So I can't prove it in the way you have MC but you can see these are very likely choices for me.