Werewolf BEaston Basic* WW Part V - Vampires Win!

[Hydatina Physis]

That's usually the way. Which is why I was grappling with the possibility of her being evil when it didn't feel right.

While I've got you here, what are you? Be honest. If you want to name some of your faction members (provided you have any) that's cool too.

 

[ZergMinion]

It's only 3.00pm and I think MCBG will give over some information when he's ready.

I'm feeling the old evil slow roll here.

 

[MWPP]

A few able to sit back and do sweet FA today because of the argument. As I always say, will be something in the lurkers.

To be fair they were doing the same yesterday . It’s why I was pushing for them yet got little support. There’s no point not going with the intel we have today, but for future the likes of BFew and Ding (who got a pass from me in his first game in ages yesterday) have to be looked at. BFew gave the evil busy excuse but that was specific to Monday as far as his pregame post goes z

 

[MWPP]

I'm feeling the old evil slow roll here.

Me too, the soft claim is a classic evil play. Thing is JHF slipping DS or recruit doesn’t clear MC. It’s their contrasting reactions and yesterday’s play that has MC over him

We should be aiming to lynch MC and JHF

MC is the king of the multi and yet there’s a reason he isn’t suggesting it this game and no I don’t mean manipulator /mayor presence haha (I’m not too bothered by the local celeb prospect as far as today’s multi goes )

 

[jmoo wan]

going for a placeholder on JHF until something changes...

BEaston

 

[MWPP]

I find it odd that were not pursuing the vigilante claim further

Nobody else has claimed vigilante. So the alternative is that they’re staying silent so they can kill WAB quietly tonight . The more likely scenario is that he is telling the truth . I believe WAB. It’s not an easy role to fake claim. All a flog has to do is ask them to kill a specific person. And if they opt for someone else that’s the end.

Are you saying you don’t believe WAB and have intel to suggest he’s something else?

 

[Kurve]

I'm feeling the old evil slow roll here.

ha ha well MCBG appears to be backing JHF so if they're lynched and flip evil, MCBG is probably next.

Would MCBG take that risk given the big number of votes on JHF?

 

[ZergMinion]

Me too, the soft claim is a classic evil play. Thing is JHF slipping DS or recruit doesn’t clear MC. It’s their contrasting reactions and yesterday’s play that has MC over him

I'm kind of expecting JHF to flip head vamp actually. Reading MC as recruited which would make perfect sense after last game.

Stuff that makes perfect sense is usually wrong though

 

[por_please_ya]

While I've got you here, what are you? Be honest. If you want to name some of your faction members (provided you have any) that's cool too.

Hahaha I'm a Drifting Soul still adrift and still have my soul lol (I think).

 

[The_Reaper]

Nobody else has claimed vigilante. So the alternative is that they’re staying silent so they can kill WAB quietly tonight . The more likely scenario is that he is telling the truth . I believe WAB. It’s not an easy role to fake claim. All a flog has to do is ask them to kill a specific person. And if they opt for someone else that’s the end.

Are you saying you don’t believe WAB and have intel to suggest he’s something else?

I’m saying I believe him and I believe that MC is night immune

 

[MWPP]

I'm kind of expecting JHF to flip head vamp actually. Reading MC as recruited which would make perfect sense after last game.

Stuff that makes perfect sense is usually wrong though

Feels more likely than what MC insinuated earlier and is claiming now. MC is a song contest regular and someone who made it deep last game so is the sort of person I’d expect JHF to recruit.

And yes to your last point.

And they would be the only two in the faction so mc has nothing to lose /everything to gain with the play.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I'm kind of expecting JHF to flip head vamp actually. Reading MC as recruited which would make perfect sense after last game.

Stuff that makes perfect sense is usually wrong though

The recruitment wouldn’t make him NI night one though? He would’ve already needed to have been? Or otherwise chanced upon a protection or favourable block?

 

[ZergMinion]

The recruitment wouldn’t make him NI night one though? He would’ve already needed to have been? Or otherwise chanced upon a protection or favourable block?

What would make him immune to kills but not recruitment? That's where I'm going.

 

[MWPP]

What would make him immune to kills but not recruitment? That's where I'm going.

A mama bear. Tbh I could see him being it and going self protect N1 (after last game, why would he go Gralin or spook over himself plus the role is invaluable) and JHF N2 as his teammate .

 

[ZergMinion]

A mama bear. Tbh I could see him being it and going self protect N1 (after last game, why would he go Gralin or spook over himself plus the role is invaluable) and JHF N2 as his teammate .

*mama wolf unless bears are a mystery 4th faction.

I feel like his faction would be all over him if he tried that while being a wolf. Plus not nearly convinced that we started with 4 per faction.

 

[MWPP]

*mama wolf unless bears are a mystery 4th faction.

I feel like his faction would be all over him if he tried that while being a wolf. Plus not nearly convinced that we started with 4 per faction.

Oh he won’t actually protect HV since HV doesn’t need protecting - so could keep

But that could be seen as an explanation

Evil doc claims good doc. Seen it before.

And Jhf was a more logical choice for an evil doc last night than a good one

 

[MWPP]

so could keep

Up appearances

 

[MWPP]

Plus not nearly convinced that we started with 4 per faction.

Yeah the alternative is that with a larger game there’s the same number of evil as last time in a game town won?

both seem odd to me for balance reasons yet one has to be correct

I’ve seen games with unbalanced factions and tbh maybe that’s what has happened. Proportionally 4 more players translates to 1 point something more evil, not 2

 

[ZergMinion]

Oh he won’t actually protect HV since HV doesn’t need protecting - so could keep

But that could be seen as an explanation

Evil doc claims good doc. Seen it before.

And Jhf was a more logical choice for an evil doc last night than a good one

It just feels like a terrible thing to claim under the existing circumstances. Don't see any way it's a smart play unless it's desperation or I'm totally misreading things.

 

[MWPP]

As an aside I’ve not been a vamp nearly enough times to know if other mods deem that recruits must put their actions in their original PMs and cannot override them in their mod PMs - but that’s how I modded it in my games with vamp back in the day

 

[ZergMinion]

Yeah the alternative is that with a larger game there’s the same number of evil as last time in a game town won?

both seem odd to me for balance reasons yet one has to be correct

I’ve seen games with unbalanced factions and tbh maybe that’s what has happened. Proportionally 4 more players translates to 1 point something more evil, not 2

A larger recruitable pool would balance the slightly smaller starting factions, and evil should really have won that last game. It was a dramatic series of evil deaths every night that got the village over the line.

 

[The_Reaper]

What would make him immune to kills but not recruitment? That's where I'm going.

There are two types of recruiting

 

[MWPP]

It just feels like a terrible thing to claim under the existing circumstances. Don't see any way it's a smart play unless it's desperation or I'm totally misreading things.

It’s also the easiest thing to soft claim (good doc) as a NI with a miss so coincidentally or not, of course he has done just that.

 

[MWPP]

There are two types of recruiting

But the two factional heads are immune to both types of recruitment anyway

Mama is still a possibility though

 

[MWPP]

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