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Hmm possibly.

Would depend on whether we think rusling can come back, thus allowing JA to go back to defence and sure up down there, and how we perceiev dawes to be travelling.

Say we are offered the extra first rounder needed for kerrthen yeah maybe.
 
Optimax said:
Hmm possibly.

Would depend on whether we think rusling can come back, thus allowing JA to go back to defence and sure up down there, and how we perceiev dawes to be travelling.

Say we are offered the extra first rounder needed for kerrthen yeah maybe.
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Can't have our first rounder, that looks like it is going to be used for f/s.
 

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.M a t t. said:
Can't have our first rounder, that looks like it is going to be used for f/s.
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Wouldnt trade him without the first rounder i dont think.

Ive had this conversation with one of the guys at uni who is a dogs supporter, Reid would be tradeable (depending on the things i mentioned earlier), but it would have to include what we would use to get kerr.

Ie our first round and yours for Kerr and west coast priority pick 17-18 to us and Reid to you.

Even then i think it'll be a very thoughtful trade, even though his set shot routine isnt great reid could be a very good player. Reid was top 10 in 06 as an underage the kid is rated very highly
 
I don't know why some Pies fans want to trade Reid.

1) He is a KPP. They take at least 3 years at best (see Travis & Franklin) to start having an influence.

2) He was as bottom age as you can get. He is 2 weeks older the Kreuzer so basically a 1st year player.

People aren't happy with his kicking but he just looked really nervous to me. Have faith in him and the judgement of Derek Hine. He is not lazy, so want trun into another Chris Egan.

I wasn't expecting to see solid performances from him into 2010. Did anyone really expect big performances in his 1st 2 years. He looked OK at times but the injury couldn't have come at a worse time for him.
 
Bay Pie said:
I don't know why some Pies fans want to trade Reid.

1) He is a KPP. They take at least 3 years at best (see Travis & Franklin) to start having an influence.

2) He was as bottom age as you can get. He is 2 weeks older the Kreuzer so basically a 1st year player.

People aren't happy with his kicking but he just looked really nervous to me. Have faith in him and the judgement of Derek Hine. He is not lazy, so want trun into another Chris Egan.

I wasn't expecting to see solid performances from him into 2010. Did anyone really expect big performances in his 1st 2 years. He looked OK at times but the injury couldn't have come at a worse time for him.
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If we keephim i wouldnt be upset i think he can be a very good and damaging player.

But if he helps us get the gun mid we need then so be it, we still have dawes, rusling, cloke and even JA playing up forward (although i prefer back when rus is fit).

We have a large amount of you kpf if one can get you what you depserately need do teh trade, but if we keep him ill still be happy
 
.M a t t. said:
Can't have our first rounder, that looks like it is going to be used for f/s.
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Well then you would have to give us a Good Player in exchange then Like:

Gritthen
Cooney
Everitt
Ward
 
Whilst you can't discount anything, it's fair to say it would have to be a very good deal to get us to part with Reid.

He just signed a 3 year deal from memory earlier in the year and is rated extremely high by the club. As good as any youngster we have.

Then again, stranger things have happened.
 
I'd certainly consider trading him. I doubt he will be anything but a forward, and probably in Travis Cloke's role.

If J. Brown is involved (which I am against but whatever!), then we'd be forward heavy and Reid would be one I'd look at moving on provided sufficient weight was placed on his value.

If not, I'm sure we can find some harmony in a Reid / Dawes / Cloke tri-towers set up.
 
Why would you want to trade him?????

Bookmark this, he will be a star

He is sooooo young and IMO he will develop into a roaming HF/Wing similar to Richo

He is a good kick in play and has the footy smarts

Another pre-season and he'll be right

BEN REID #1 FAN CLUB
 

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As has been said before by others he would be tradeable for a very high price (although I am a huge beliver in this kid.) I think when drafted we were playing it safe drafting best players avalible and they happened to be KPP the chance of all of them making it wasn't great. Now that we are in a situation where all may make it we are in a position where for the right deal player could be traded.

IMO Ried has the most potential and the most weakness. He is a superior athelte (nearly as quick as Thomas) very tall, good at ground level, and good over head and a smart foward he times his leads well and looks a natural foward. The problem is for a foward his kicking is and always has been sub standard, especially at goal. The chances of him being a great kick, especially at goal are slim.

Due to the risk involved and the fact we have excess fowards if the right offer came, I think we would trade him and strengthen a glarring weakness, like our midfield, that said I don't think we'd get what we were after to do the deal and hence he stays.
 
I don't know why people would be willing to give him up.

IMO he could develop into the best player on our list.

Also he only recently signed a 2 year deal.
 
FIGJAM said:
I'd certainly consider trading him. I doubt he will be anything but a forward, and probably in Travis Cloke's role.

If J. Brown is involved (which I am against but whatever!), then we'd be forward heavy and Reid would be one I'd look at moving on provided sufficient weight was placed on his value.

If not, I'm sure we can find some harmony in a Reid / Dawes / Cloke tri-towers set up.
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The only way I can see it working is with Dawes and Cloke both playing deep. Trav as a deep CHF/FF a bit like Browny plays when Bradshaw is in the side. Dawes playing as a traditional FF and Reid playing as a CHF/ Wing type player, a bit like Richo has done this year. The other way it could work is if Dawes didn't make it and Ruslnig did, in which case Trav would play the same role, and also be the long get out of jail option and Rus would be the first option on the lead.
 
Callan Ward or Andrejs Everitt would be two that I'd be interested in, and I do think that Reid could come into conversations for trades at year's end.

However, I admit that I have never been Reid's biggest fan, and have been more in the camp of trusting Hine on him than actually believing my own eyes, and I think that he probably has a currency that goes beyond simply trading him for the sake of a trade. I think he could potentially be the odd man out, seeing as he projects more as a leading HF type than the FF that we are still searching for, but I don't think we'll be actively shopping him unless it's for a Jonathan Brown, Daniel Kerr, or other big name player.
 
If I remember correctly Ben Reid took Waite to the cleaners earlier this year, he has super endurance, extremely quick and agile for his height, enormous upside having just turned 19 this year, only played a handful of games yet reminds me already of a young Richo with his work ethic and versatility to play forward and roam upfield. IMO this kid will be very difficult to match up on in a couple of years time when he strengthens up physically after a couple more pre seasons under his belt.
Finally lets not forget this kid was taken at pick 8, being the youngest kid in the so called best draft since the superdraft of Judd, Hodge, Ball, Bartel etc. Malthouse raves about this guy and said earlier this year that despite his young age he is already good enough to play senior footy and will be a 10 year player for the club. We trade him at our peril!
 
I think any conversation about Reid that doesn't include a first-round pick as compensation is already badly hamstrung, particularly as a direct swap for Kerr is unlikely.

I am a fan of Ward, but he wouldn't be traded after one year.
 

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Honestly don't think Reid would be the KPP type the Dogs need anyway. They need more of a bash and crash marking type like Dawes, not another tall flanker type.
Having said that, Reid's upside is huge and we should give him PLENTY of time.
 
robertg22 said:
Honestly don't think Reid would be the KPP type the Dogs need anyway. They need more of a bash and crash marking type like Dawes, not another tall flanker type.
Having said that, Reid's upside is huge and we should give him PLENTY of time.
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But How Long is Long Enough to wait on Reid?
 
Dave The Man said:
But How Long is Long Enough to wait on Reid?
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Depends wait for what, if your after signs that his up to the level I'd suggest you rewatch his debut and his game against Carlton. His only really had the one mare in the black and white and that was against the roo's when playing injured.

If you take into account he was drafted skinny and is a key position player, and kpp tend to take longer to cement a spot in the side, then how bottom aged he was drafted and the fact that he has a had a major injury set back at the end of this year.....I'd say 4 years.
 
shawthing09 said:
Depends wait for what, if your after signs that his up to the level I'd suggest you rewatch his debut and his game against Carlton. His only really had the one mare in the black and white and that was against the roo's when playing injured.

If you take into account he was drafted skinny and is a key position player, and kpp tend to take longer to cement a spot in the side, then how bottom aged he was drafted and the fact that he has a had a major injury set back at the end of this year.....I'd say 4 years.
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I agree with that. He has shown Promise but His biggest Downside is his Kicking and That is a Massive DownSide.

4-5 Years is a good time to see if he can make it or not.

I think he will but I am not 100% convinced
 
Dave The Man said:
I agree with that. He has shown Promise but His biggest Downside is his Kicking and That is a Massive DownSide.

4-5 Years is a good time to see if he can make it or not.

I think he will but I am not 100% convinced
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your exagerhating the kicking thing. His field kicking is ok his set shooting is below 50% and always has been. The fact that he is the sort of player who could play as a foward who actually spends little time around the goals means he could make it without ever been a sensational set shoot, that said you would want it to improve anyway.
 

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