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AlburyE said:
Wouldn't mind getting a golden handshake!

Margins we shall watch.

I initially thought the penalties to the Square players were too harsh, but if a player gets concussed in a sling tackle (or any way outside the rules) I can see tribunals are clearly going to come down hard. The message has been sent.
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Would the penalties be less if it wasn’t a) the interleague captain on the receiving end, or b) the club impacted by the injury being a club that the league need to do everything they can to try keep them in the league moving forward?
 

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Trent the flight Steward said:
So how were they graded? This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard a guy getting 7 weeks for that. I hope the square challenge both suspensions. Why didn't the addy have an article?
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Careless/High contact/Severe impact is referred directly to tribunal so I guess both were that, if they weren't considered Intentional/High/Severe. After screen recording it and going frame by frame it looks like there's an elbow making contact with the head but it's right on the edge of the video so you can't really tell. Maybe witness statements combined with the footage resulted in the outcomes :think:
 
Don’t forget that nowadays the victims start at missing at least three and probably four games. The penalties should be higher to reflect that.
 

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Forest St End said:
Don’t forget that nowadays the victims start at missing at least three and probably four games. The penalties should be higher to reflect that.
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Sorry disagree we shouldn't be handing out suspensions on the outcome should we, if reaper gets up and played out the game and no concussion it's 0 games?

Reaper will miss you'd think a month, as its so hard to see where the contact was too he's head. Almost like McCartin was. Who initiated the push and shove?

Unless there's other footage you can't suspend a guy for defending himself can you, he didn't throw a punch, he didn't line him up, the second square guy throws him to the ground, and there's a tangle of bodies. Imagine if it's overturned and its 1 and 2 weeks suspension. The league would just about need to shut itself up.

No one wants to see a guy king hit, a punch thrown or lined up when they're open and hit high, but Aussie rules has always had intimidation factor in senior footy, what I saw was two guys blowing off some steam another come in and help the young team mate throwing reaper to the ground.

What's happening to our game? We might as well get a round ball out, put a net behind the goals and bsn tackling, ban speckys and just switch to soccer
 
Trent the flight Steward said:
Sorry disagree we shouldn't be handing out suspensions on the outcome should we, if reaper gets up and played out the game and no concussion it's 0 games?

Reaper will miss you'd think a month, as its so hard to see where the contact was too he's head. Almost like McCartin was. Who initiated the push and shove?

Unless there's other footage you can't suspend a guy for defending himself can you, he didn't throw a punch, he didn't line him up, the second square guy throws him to the ground, and there's a tangle of bodies. Imagine if it's overturned and its 1 and 2 weeks suspension. The league would just about need to shut itself up.

No one wants to see a guy king hit, a punch thrown or lined up when they're open and hit high, but Aussie rules has always had intimidation factor in senior footy, what I saw was two guys blowing off some steam another come in and help the young team mate throwing reaper to the ground.

What's happening to our game? We might as well get a round ball out, put a net behind the goals and bsn tackling, ban speckys and just switch to soccer
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Reaper is consulting a concussion specialist and is talking he may not play again
 
howmuch said:
Reaper is consulting a concussion specialist and is talking he may not play again
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Reaper is not saying he may not play again, others are saying it for him.

Concussion is seriously tricky for administrators. It’s hugely serious but once a player chooses to take the field his history cannot be taken into account. Players can’t be expected to go easy on a bloke because he has a history of concussion and may not play again due to one more hit.

Let me say, I am a person who incurred multiple concussions, too many and suffer consequences and side effects to this day and will forever but I chose to keep going.

If the act is deliberate and malicious then punish that but you can’t impose suspensions because it might be the one that ends someone’s playing days
 
Trent the flight Steward said:
Sorry disagree we shouldn't be handing out suspensions on the outcome should we, if reaper gets up and played out the game and no concussion it's 0 games?

Reaper will miss you'd think a month, as its so hard to see where the contact was too he's head. Almost like McCartin was. Who initiated the push and shove?

Unless there's other footage you can't suspend a guy for defending himself can you, he didn't throw a punch, he didn't line him up, the second square guy throws him to the ground, and there's a tangle of bodies. Imagine if it's overturned and its 1 and 2 weeks suspension. The league would just about need to shut itself up.

No one wants to see a guy king hit, a punch thrown or lined up when they're open and hit high, but Aussie rules has always had intimidation factor in senior footy, what I saw was two guys blowing off some steam another come in and help the young team mate throwing reaper to the ground.

What's happening to our game? We might as well get a round ball out, put a net behind the goals and bsn tackling, ban speckys and just switch to soccer
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Umm I just watched the incident and I feel for the injured player but that incident is not worthy of 7 weeks and 4 weeks. I’ve seen a hell of a lot worse get no weeks or less weeks. 7 weeks gee whiz.
Seen a similar incident on video of an Avondale Heights v Greenvale game last year in which Maric from GV slung a player from behind in a scuffle in a much more vigorous manner and got a lot less weeks. Was with a few minutes to go in the game and player was knocked out.
 
ROOTA#6 said:
Reaper is not saying he may not play again, others are saying it for him.

Concussion is seriously tricky for administrators. It’s hugely serious but once a player chooses to take the field his history cannot be taken into account. Players can’t be expected to go easy on a bloke because he has a history of concussion and may not play again due to one more hit.

Let me say, I am a person who incurred multiple concussions, too many and suffer consequences and side effects to this day and will forever but I chose to keep going.

If the act is deliberate and malicious then punish that but you can’t impose suspensions because it might be the one that ends someone’s playing days
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ROOTA#6 said:
Reaper is not saying he may not play again, others are saying it for him.

Concussion is seriously tricky for administrators. It’s hugely serious but once a player chooses to take the field his history cannot be taken into account. Players can’t be expected to go easy on a bloke because he has a history of concussion and may not play again due to one more hit.

Let me say, I am a person who incurred multiple concussions, too many and suffer consequences and side effects to this day and will forever but I chose to keep going.

If the act is deliberate and malicious then punish that but you can’t impose suspensions because it might be the one that ends someone’s playing days
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That's OK Roota, but let me say this. Any player who uses a sling tackle where his opponents head hits the ground is just asking for trouble. You suffered multiple concussions. You don't want your kids/grandchildren to be in the same situation. Serious neck injuries can also occur. I remember a few years back an Albury v Yarrawonga match being abandoned and the young Albury player ended up in a wheelchair.

In summary a sling tackle bringing an opponent down head first is a malicious act and needs to be stamped out of the game.
 
Turbos mail said:
Umm I just watched the incident and I feel for the injured player but that incident is not worthy of 7 weeks and 4 weeks. I’ve seen a hell of a lot worse get no weeks or less weeks. 7 weeks gee whiz.
Seen a similar incident on video of an Avondale Heights v Greenvale game last year in which Maric from GV slung a player from behind in a scuffle in a much more vigorous manner and got a lot less weeks. Was with a few minutes to go in the game and player was knocked out.
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I believe these blokes decided to plead guilty, would hate to see what they would have gotten if pleaded not guilty then found otherwise.
 
AlburyE said:
That's OK Roota, but let me say this. Any player who uses a sling tackle where his opponents head hits the ground is just asking for trouble. You suffered multiple concussions. You don't want your kids/grandchildren to be in the same situation. Serious neck injuries can also occur. I remember a few years back an Albury v Yarrawonga match being abandoned and the young Albury player ended up in a wheelchair.

In summary a sling tackle bringing an opponent down head first is a malicious act and needs to be stamped out of the game.
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Only take the AFL to bring in a rule that any sling tackle is a free kick and it would soon disappear. While on umpiring its time for umps to just throw the ball up at stoppages and get on with the game, if a third player contests the ball up pay a free against them, this rubbish of umps asking whos going up is a waste of time. AFL worse with boundary umps waiting for the OK from central ump to continue play, Just throw the bloody thing in.
 
AlburyE said:
That's OK Roota, but let me say this. Any player who uses a sling tackle where his opponents head hits the ground is just asking for trouble. You suffered multiple concussions. You don't want your kids/grandchildren to be in the same situation. Serious neck injuries can also occur. I remember a few years back an Albury v Yarrawonga match being abandoned and the young Albury player ended up in a wheelchair.

In summary a sling tackle bringing an opponent down head first is a malicious act and needs to be stamped out of the game.
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While not disagreeing with your general point, the incident in the Albury v Yarrawonga game wasn't from a sling tackle. The Albury player crashed into the Yarrawonga players hip. A horrible outcome, but nothing more than a terrible accident. There was (at least publicly) no animosity from the player or Albury as a club, and there was no suspension or investigation.

So sanctions cannot only be based on outcomes, no matter how serious the outcome may be.
 
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