Best 22 poll

[Suma Magic]

NOTE - THE SECOND HILL IS ACTUALLY PRIDDIS

Who do you think is best 22 for round 1 (or early season), assuming everyone is fit and firing.

With a maximum of 20 poll options, this means that 24 players will either be locks for best 22, or no chance of best 22. There may be disagreement on a few of these, but there is no other way to do the poll I suppose.

No chance of being best 22:

Main, Powell, Barrass, Maginess, Colledge, Karpany, Sinclair, Wilson, McGovern, McGinnity


Those who are locks for best 22

Mackenzie, Glass, Hurn, Naitanui, Cox, Kennedy, Darling, Shuey, LeCras, Selwood, Wellingham, Masten, Gaff, Waters


This leaves 8 players left to pick from the 20 options in the poll. Select your 8, and select wisely.

 

[helter skelter]

hill is on there twice

 

[lmach]

Rosa
Sheppard
Hill
Schofield
Smith
Carter
Yeo
Sheed

 

[Suma Magic]

**** - Hill twice, and no Priddis.

Not sure if mods can amend polls? If so, can you please replace the second Hill with Priddis. If not, maybe just delete the thread of something.

If you want to vote in the meantime, consider the second Hill as being Priddis.

 

[Probitas_]

Rosa
Hill
Lycett
Schofield
Hutchings
Priddis
Yeo
Butler

 

[sTeeL]

Might be best if we knew what sort of structure you had as well

Glass Mackenzie --
Hurn -- Waters
-- Selwood Gaff
Masten Kennedy Darling
--- Cox Le Cras
Naitanui Shuey Wellingham

Int: ---- ---- ---- Sub: ----

As best as I can fit it. Obviously you move around a bit but I think this is close to what it will be.
At least 3 defenders and 2 wingmen, and the rest can be juggled.

Yeo to W, Ellis int as Wingman, Brown to CHB, Hill as FP, Sheed (initially sub?)and Priddis as mids on bench. Bennell to BP. Last spot to Cripps imo but honestly, so much of this is dependant on injuries and form. On 2012 form, Schofield was a guarenteed lock. On 2013, he wouldnt make our squad. I have faith in him to get back and I would rather go on exposed form even if it is only NAB cup form than pick a squad now.

I think Yeo and Pridds are guaranteed locks to be playing somewhere unless injured. A lot of it will depend on Simpsons gameplan as well as we are always traditionally top-heavy which I personally do not think will change.

Cant wait to find out.

 

[Suma Magic]

sTeeL

that structure is spot on.

I had:

Yeo
Schofield
Priddis
Hill
Rosa
Ellis
Sheed
Carter

 

[beatlesmith]

I like Schofield but I really don't think he can be in the team ahead of Brown.
For me it comes down to a few simple truths:
1) Glass is our best 3rd tall- his ability to peel off his man and mark/kill the contest is fantastic, while his ability to shut down talls has declined with age. He makes the job of the players around him much easier in that role, while Schofield doesn't affect enough contests or get enough ball on the rebound to be nearly as effective.
2) EMac needs to take the best tall at all times and in all likelihood that's a FF - an ageing Glass cannot play CHB and with the exception of smaller CHFs, Schofield can't either.
3) Brown can play CHB or FB, allowing EMac to play on the best forward at all times and allowing Glass to play as the 3rd tall.

Sure Schofield's skillset is "sexier", but structurally he just doesn't have a place as a key defender right now. 11-12 touches a game and a handful of nice goals a season for a player whose best attributes are his ability with ball in hand doesn't justify what you have to sacrifice defensively and structurally.
He needs to either become a stronger key defender or get more ball on the rebound if he wants Brown's spot, or wait until Glass has hung up his boots.

 

[Bald Eagle 10]

IMO Priddis and Yeo are locks in the best 22

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Tunbridge will go past Hill. His physicality will be the difference.

 

[Arthaus]

rosa
hill
schofield
yeo
priddis
tunbridge
ellis
sheed
i also think priddis and yeo are locks in best 22..(i also like yeos steely demeanour in interview)
this choice obviously doesnt relate to opp.on the week, nor to the balance of best 22 team,nor the new gameplan?..its just my best 8..i really liked what i saw of tunbridge..hill needs to be more consistent-i mean he sometimes goes missing/tagged out and sometimes saves a match-not unlike lecca..sheppard could be in there purely from experience, he's really got pressure to perform this year with more fast flankers added..i thought a previous post about schoey vs.brown was interesting, brown had quite a baptism of fire last season, but for mine came out 50/50, maybe this is his year? schoey certainly has the experience over brown..ellis is an unknown quantity at this stage, but you'd imagine he'd be an inclusion..

 

[eagles_4_life]

rosa
hill
schofield
yeo
priddis
tunbridge
ellis
sheed
i also think priddis and yeo are locks in best 22..(i also like yeos steely demeanour in interview)
this choice obviously doesnt relate to opp.on the week, nor to the balance of best 22 team,nor the new gameplan?..its just my best 8..i really liked what i saw of tunbridge..hill needs to be more consistent-i mean he sometimes goes missing/tagged out and sometimes saves a match-not unlike lecca..sheppard could be in there purely from experience, he's really got pressure to perform this year with more fast flankers added..i thought a previous post about schoey vs.brown was interesting, brown had quite a baptism of fire last season, but for mine came out 50/50, maybe this is his year? schoey certainly has the experience over brown..ellis is an unknown quantity at this stage, but you'd imagine he'd be an inclusion..

Pretty sure brown and schmo field were drafted same year and I think famed played would be pretty close May be schmo field a few games in front

 

[squashface]

Rosa- important link man
Hill- good finisher and has fantastic delivery into the 50
Schofield- love his runs from defense
Yeo- has stellar speed and could be what have been missing
Priddis- like it or not, he is our main midfielder at this stage
Butler- he is cool, calm and collected in the back half and has fair disposal
Ellis- bit of an unknown, but if he is fit, he could really be something
Sheed- think Gaff 2011, as in, he will mostly be the sub but will be really good when he comes on

 

[Quinz]

I like Schofield but I really don't think he can be in the team ahead of Brown.
For me it comes down to a few simple truths:
1) Glass is our best 3rd tall- his ability to peel off his man and mark/kill the contest is fantastic, while his ability to shut down talls has declined with age. He makes the job of the players around him much easier in that role, while Schofield doesn't affect enough contests or get enough ball on the rebound to be nearly as effective.
2) EMac needs to take the best tall at all times and in all likelihood that's a FF - an ageing Glass cannot play CHB and with the exception of smaller CHFs, Schofield can't either.
3) Brown can play CHB or FB, allowing EMac to play on the best forward at all times and allowing Glass to play as the 3rd tall.

Sure Schofield's skillset is "sexier", but structurally he just doesn't have a place as a key defender right now. 11-12 touches a game and a handful of nice goals a season for a player whose best attributes are his ability with ball in hand doesn't justify what you have to sacrifice defensively and structurally.
He needs to either become a stronger key defender or get more ball on the rebound if he wants Brown's spot, or wait until Glass has hung up his boots.

Play him on the wing, Embley style.

 

[Doughboy]

Ellis (if Fit)
Yeo
Priddis
Rosa
Hill
Schofield
Cripps
Sheed

 

[matt_bas]

Priddis is a lock in our best 22. People have to get over the fact they don't like him.
Yeo & Rosa are also locked in our 22
My other 5 would be:
Brown, Schofield, Sheed,
And depending on team balance two of: Cripps/Carter/Hutchings

 

[flamingEMBERS]

didnt read the post that hill2 was pridda, IMO we need to move from pridda but he's best 22

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I like Schofield but I really don't think he can be in the team ahead of Brown.
For me it comes down to a few simple truths:

1) Glass is our best 3rd tall- his ability to peel off his man and mark/kill the contest is fantastic, while his ability to shut down talls has declined with age. He makes the job of the players around him much easier in that role, while Schofield doesn't affect enough contests or get enough ball on the rebound to be nearly as effective.
2) EMac needs to take the best tall at all times and in all likelihood that's a FF - an ageing Glass cannot play CHB and with the exception of smaller CHFs, Schofield can't either.
3) Brown can play CHB or FB, allowing EMac to play on the best forward at all times and allowing Glass to play as the 3rd tall.

Sure Schofield's skillset is "sexier", but structurally he just doesn't have a place as a key defender right now. 11-12 touches a game and a handful of nice goals a season for a player whose best attributes are his ability with ball in hand doesn't justify what you have to sacrifice defensively and structurally.
He needs to either become a stronger key defender or get more ball on the rebound if he wants Brown's spot, or wait until Glass has hung up his boots.

Mackenzie as you say plays on most dangerous forwards, all of which are pretty mobile these days. Sure you don't want Schofield wrestling with bigger stronger forwards, but up the ground with his pace and reach he's not that poor as a conventional "CHB" and not going to be any worse than a slower and less mobile Brown. Who like his brother is piss poor on the stretch against more rangy opponents. At worst if Mackenzie is up the ground and there is a tall player back then Glass plays on them and one of Schofield/ Waters can zone in to assist aerially.

Glass might be a near intercept player and strong coming into the contests without an opponent but he's got no hurt factor with ball in hand (broken record). He's simply not someone who you want to expose offensively when he's much better utilised playing on someone and using his smarts to work off them and assist others out.

This year we played all four for the majority of the season because we had Waters and Hurn missing most of the season. Will be interesting too see what we do now.

 

[beatlesmith]

Mackenzie as you say plays on most dangerous forwards, all of which are pretty mobile these days. Sure you don't want Schofield wrestling with bigger stronger forwards, but up the ground with his pace and reach he's not that poor as a conventional "CHB" and not going to be any worse than a slower and less mobile Brown. Who like his brother is piss poor on the stretch against more rangy opponents. At worst if Mackenzie is up the ground and there is a tall player back then Glass plays on them and one of Schofield/ Waters can zone in to assist aerially.

I guess what Schofield does have to his advantage is that with Franklin off to Sydney, they're the only team left with two proper, quality key forwards (although I suspect GWS and Melbourne could change that this year). Of course specific matchups mean this isn't a cut and dry issue.
I'm still unconvinced, however. Glass isn't the one-on-one gorilla wrestler that he once was- he's slimmed down, seemingly so he can play the role that he did all of this year, and has clearly lost at least a yard of pace on the lead. Any player with significant height, weight or athletic advantage is going to cause him a lot of trouble in isolation, or make it difficult for him to peel off them.

Glass might be a near intercept player and strong coming into the contests without an opponent but he's got no hurt factor with ball in hand (broken record). He's simply not someone who you want to expose offensively when he's much better utilised playing on someone and using his smarts to work off them and assist others out.

Glass's touches don't so much have attacking value as defensive value. Intercept marks, cleaning up when a teammate has a one on one, coming over to relieve pressure as an easy handball option or peeling off to provide a shepherd for a rebounding teammate. These are things that Schofield doesn't do nearly as well as Glass, particularly of late, and I think those things offer more value than Will's 11-12 touches. If Schofield were to improve his defensive efforts or start picking up more touches, it might tip the scales, but he has to show that first. And while granted, Glass isn't a great rebounder, he is still a very efficient user of the footy who is good at getting the ball to our more damaging users. If we're looking for more rebound I'd rather we throw Yeo or Bennell into the backline mix and maintain our defensive integrity.

 

[Spooky17]

As important as it is to have our best 22 sorted, and it is important, I think it's of greater value to have a strong best 25-30... i.e. a larger pool of genuine proven AFL quality players. No doubt there will be injuries at some stage during 2014, and the best teams always have strong players covering for injuries. In achieving this, I would love to see strong WAFL performances from the young guys in order to knock down the selection door to achieve this best 25-30. We cannot rely solely on our seniors and best 22, we need broad improvements across the entire list. It's just a hunch, but I have a feeling Simpson is just the man for the job

 

[Belgarion]

I already voted and didn't vote for priddis because his name wasn't on. Delete Sheppard and add Priddis from my vote.

 

[squashface]

I think the question we should be asking ourselves is: "Who didn't vote for Yeo?"

 

[Chris_6678]

Can not believe people did not vote in Mcinnes...better than Darling and JK.

 

[Spooky17]

Can not believe people did not vote in Mcinnes...better than Darling and JK.

I think that post should have been posted yesterday

 

[Spooky17]

I think the support for the three new guys (Yeo, Ellis, Sheed) is encouraging, fingers crossed they all put in big pre-seasons and establish themselves in the 22 this year