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Gideon Haigh didn't miss the members in The Australian

The booing, as is most booing, was mainly harmless, carrying on as it did long past the point anyone could remember what they were booing, and becoming chiefly about companionship.

The parrot cry of ‘same old Aussies, always cheating’ also invites the question of from whom they might have learned it. After all, you can trace the line of Ashes tit-for-tat back to the Oval in 1882 when, coincidentally, WG Grace ran out the Australian Sammy Jones for wandering out of his crease under a misapprehension the ball was dead. “I taught the lad a lesson,” Grace is reputed to have said afterwards; just so.

But the jostling of players in the members? Really? By virtue of the antiquity of the Long Room, and the assumption that people-like-us know how to behave, Lord’s retains the privilege of unusual proximity to the players - the frisson from hearing a player’s spikes on the hardwood floor is one of cricket’s glories.

They will not have it long, however, if blimps and prigs want to vent fury on their visitors because they are unaware of the laws that … checks notes …. their own club sets for the world. And what could be a worse look in the week of the Equity in Cricket report than puce-faced, dim-bulb snobs picking fights with a placid, softly-spoken Muslim player? Chaps, pull yourselves together.

You’re actually cheating Stokes of some of his glory.
 
The Poms do have a couple shit campaigner keepers tho ehy. Buttlers the one ai hate the most, he doesn’t sledge the oppo, he full on abuses em behind the stumps at times.
 
Gideon Haigh didn't miss the members in The Australian

The booing, as is most booing, was mainly harmless, carrying on as it did long past the point anyone could remember what they were booing, and becoming chiefly about companionship.

The parrot cry of ‘same old Aussies, always cheating’ also invites the question of from whom they might have learned it. After all, you can trace the line of Ashes tit-for-tat back to the Oval in 1882 when, coincidentally, WG Grace ran out the Australian Sammy Jones for wandering out of his crease under a misapprehension the ball was dead. “I taught the lad a lesson,” Grace is reputed to have said afterwards; just so.

But the jostling of players in the members? Really? By virtue of the antiquity of the Long Room, and the assumption that people-like-us know how to behave, Lord’s retains the privilege of unusual proximity to the players - the frisson from hearing a player’s spikes on the hardwood floor is one of cricket’s glories.

They will not have it long, however, if blimps and prigs want to vent fury on their visitors because they are unaware of the laws that … checks notes …. their own club sets for the world. And what could be a worse look in the week of the Equity in Cricket report than puce-faced, dim-bulb snobs picking fights with a placid, softly-spoken Muslim player? Chaps, pull yourselves together.

You’re actually cheating Stokes of some of his glory.
Gee, that's quite good!
 

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Spirit of the game stuff is all rubbish. Is it in the spirit of the game to specifically ask your curators to prepare a specific type of pitch so as to give a team an advantage.

What about bowling 98% (or whatever it was specifically) short for pretty much 2 sessions thereby reducing scoring, increasing the odds of injury etc (ironically because of the request to get a specific type of pitch).

Arguably neither of these 2 things are in the spirit of the way in which cricket should be played.

From my perspective at the end of the day most teams will always do what they can to ensure that they win within the rules of the game and as far as I'm concerned provided you aren't cheating, insulting or abusing anyone as part of this process you are playing within the spirit of the game.
 
Spirit of the game stuff is all rubbish. Is it in the spirit of the game to specifically ask your curators to prepare a specific type of pitch so as to give a team an advantage.

What about bowling 98% (or whatever it was specifically) short for pretty much 2 sessions thereby reducing scoring, increasing the odds of injury etc (ironically because of the request to get a specific type of pitch).

Arguably neither of these 2 things are in the spirit of the way in which cricket should be played.

From my perspective at the end of the day most teams will always do what they can to ensure that they win within the rules of the game and as far as I'm concerned provided you aren't cheating, insulting or abusing anyone as part of this process you are playing within the spirit of the game.
well said
 
The best bit about it is the whinging from the poms!

After the Starc catch, this was totally worth it. They're such a bunch of hypocrites it's hilarious.

As for the Aussies, they've not really played the test too well towards the end there. Ever since Smith and Khawaja got out playing the short stuff they had done so well to avoid it seemed like a bit of a lack of clarity spread through the team. Some poor decisions being made and people doubling down on it.

Smith really should have scored big, Head needed to do more as did Green.

There's quite a bad trend of a lack of partnerships after the 3rd wicket, save for the miraculous Cummins.

All's well that ends well, but the Aussies should be looking to improve into the third test.

Despite all this, the English have had the rub of the green with the conditions in which they're batting in and we're still beating them. Our bowlers are better, our wicket keeping miles in front, the batters overall are performing better but not by much.

Credit where it's due to Stokes, was a great innings, but it doesn't happen without the Bairstow incident, he also was remarkably lucky at times getting dropped and putting the pace bowlers into a trance bowling right in the slot.

Good leadership eventually prevailed and they talked tactics, dried it up, but it seemed to go on way too long! That change should be made quicker in the future, they need to play a bit smarter (and stop dropping easy catches).
 
Bit of controversy was just what Test cricket needed

English test cricket at least, to help them distract from losing even though it felt like they were winning.
 
English test cricket at least, to help them distract from losing even though it felt like they were winning.

An added bonus for sure. I think it brings global intrigue at a time the IPL and T20 generally are becoming more popular.

Having genuine 5th day contests is also important. There have been some really ordinary, one sided Tests of late.
 
So any changes for the third test ?

The Todd comes in for Lyon if he's not available (given the Test is on Thursday, probably not).
I think Green holds position at 6. It would have to be either Neser or M.Marsh that replace him anyway.
Boland might be considered for Hazlewood

Part of me wants to throw the Bison into the vacancy created by Lyon. It'll never happen and I know it messes with team dynamics but it would be fun. Can bowl overs and tonk runs for fun.
 

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Part of me wants to throw the Bison into the vacancy created by Lyon. It'll never happen and I know it messes with team dynamics but it would be fun. Can bowl overs and tonk runs for fun.
It's interesting
Without Leach there is almost zero chance that the poms produce a spin friendly wicket. May not need a specialist spinner.
 

Lyon officially out of the rest of the series.
 
Short balls on a flat wicket M Marsh would be on 100 after 30 deliveries. Perfect conditions for him but he won’t be able to force his way in. Neser over Boland with Hazlewood resting I wouldn’t mind.
 

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So do I have to start watching cricket now? (Outside the summer holidays)
Top effort after just being told officially they are a bunch of racists snobs among other bad things.
 
I would hope Stokes and Cummins would bring a player back and set a good example of proper sportsmanship if it happens again .
Translation:
I would hope the Captains of England and Australia take it upon themselves to determine what the rules of cricket are.
So jolly good of you to allow the colonials to share in the moralistic determination that the rest of the world should observe. Bravo 👏
 
Not sure if Andrew Strauss was misquoted, but this comment is sure to attract some attention.
Especially after the recent damning report on English cricket saying it is racist, sexist and elitist.

London: “Cheats, cheats, cheats” and worse was bellowed from the floor of the Long Room at Lord’s as Australia’s cricketers filed in during the lunch break of a febrile second Ashes Test.

All were abused, some allegedly accosted physically. Some, like Usman Khawaja and David Warner, stopped to discuss the scene with their abusers and what it may mean for the unique privilege of Lord’s members watching the players walk past them on their way to and from the playing arena.

Some seasoned Lord’s attendees, such as former England and Middlesex captain Andrew Strauss, reasoned that it was due to the day five crowd being less exclusive than that of the first four days.
 
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