Big Cricket Thread

[THE A5]

Both Hameed and Crawley average like 30 in FC cricket and it’s no wonder why they seem to struggle at this level. I get they’re young but both Puc and Green were picked after averaging over 50 in FC cricket.

 

[Bender_]

As fun as this series has been, we're mince meat when we play India and Pakistan away from home next year.

 

[RanaNaved]

Cam Green is over thinking everything as a batter atm imo. He's just a wicket waiting to fall right now.

May as well go down swinging, he might even find some form playing aggressively.

 

[DanWCE]

I swear this happens once a season with us. We send a team in for whatever reason, they make 200+ and we sh*t the bed. Every season. ffs.

Reckon they've definitely addressed it previously, with the logic being they need to expose themselves to a run chase or two in case they end up in finals having to chase a total. They do seem to outsmart themselves like this every season recently, you're right.

 

[Dazzler9]

Both Hameed and Crawley average like 30 in FC cricket and it’s no wonder why they seem to struggle at this level. I get they’re young but both Puc and Green were picked after averaging over 50 in FC cricket.

Hameed looks out of his depth.

 

[ioppolo]

Crawley has 754 runs from 28 innings. His highest score is 267 (flipping whaaat).
35%, more than a third, of his test runs are from one single innings.
Take that out and his average drops from 27 to 18.

 

[Godfather32]

As fun as this series has been, we're mince meat when we play India and Pakistan away from home next year.

 

[FKASC]

Crawley has 754 runs from 28 innings. His highest score is 267 (f*n whaaat).
35%, more than a third, of his test runs are from one single innings.
Take that out and his average drops from 27 to 18.

That’s unbelievable. That one innings is like the Tunbridge tackle of English cricket

 

[FKASC]

Easily good enough to win it.
You can only beat who you play against.
Beaten Hobart twice who are third.

It can't be easy being on the road and getting no home games either.
Was a bad choice to win the toss and bowl IMO.

I'd be surprised if we don't at least make the final.

I think they’ve done wonderfully so far, but just don’t think they’ve got the same batting depth that the Sydney teams have. See what happens I guess, Patterson’s couple of good matches could just be an anomaly or he might actually continue that form, but IMO the issue is that Turner, Evans and Agar are too unreliable if put under pressure

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

How prophetic you were ECE .......... off to the pub for a steak sandwich lunch and some celebratory pints

I heard that the ECB have commissioned a new Ashes English 2021/2022 team logo for the last two tests.

Apparently this:

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Is being replaced with this:

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I reckon that while they are at it the ECB should change their own logo too:

Replace this:

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Literally had a pint in my hand by 12:30pm at the pub. haha.

My mate and I (another Eagles man, rare find in Melbourne) were like our wives won't know the cricket has finished let's get some pints and a burger. 2 pint in, the wives messaged asking what we were doing as the cricket had finished. haha.

Whilst my cricket experience yesterday was brief, to watch Boland bowl and be unplayable was a thing of beauty. Glad a saw it.

So England lasted longer in quarantine than the Ashes.

 

[Biggie]

 

[Biggie]

 

[THE A5]

Hameed looks out of his depth.

he seems mentally cooked. I know smaller countries like Sri Lanka pluck kids who dominate school/ under 19's cricket and put em into the national team team cause their domestic comp isn't great but England genuinely has no reason what so ever to do this. Surely they have some openers dominating the county scene. For all his faults, Burns at least averages over 40 in FC cricket.

 

[WCE_phil]

I think the big problem is they have changed county cricket's season around a lot to fit in a lot more 50 over and T20. It means there isn't as much continuity and a lot of the younger players are playing significantly more of the short ball game so a lot of their up and comers do well in the short forms but aren't great at building partnerships and spending a lot of time at the crease.

It's also part of the reason why whilst the West Indies test side have been terribly shite for a long time now they have in patches been very good at T20 in particular because they play a lot of it.

I can also see this being a reason why a team like India may struggle in 5-10 years time because outside they play so much more 50 over and T20 cricket than anyone. So even with cricket basically being the country's religion and having a ridiculously huge population they may struggle to play in New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, England and the West Indies (if they can get their shit together)

Whilst Australia's team looks the goods in Australia, England, South Africa and to a lesser extent New Zealand a lot of our current international team and in particular state players are pretty good against the quicks but really have very poor technique against spin.

Some of the newer bowling machines in particular can be rigged to spin the ball and I would love for our batsmen to have to spend large hours in net setups where pitches are prepared similar to the subcontinent where finger spinners get a lot more slide and spin on the ball than our players are used to facing.

The basic principal of facing spin is around footwork. Get to the pitch of the ball and hit with the spin, even if it's a defensive shot. Or if you can't get to the pitch of the ball move back into the crease and play defensively or leave as much as possible. The biggest reason to hit with the spin is that it generally means if you are getting an edge it's going to be an inside edge into your pads rather than an outside edge. Sitting at the crease if the ball stays low you are wide open for LBW, or if it sits up at a normal level you are open to edging on both sides of the bat.

I'd love to see Damian Martyn and or Michael Clarke providing batting coaching against spin.

 

[Wild Kelly]

The fact is the Poms are two openers (who can give them a 50 run partnership and see off the new ball) away from being a competitive side. In Root, Malan and Stokes (when he gets fit) they have a good 3, 4 & 5) and their attack is solid. It's just ebbs and flows. We have been through what they are going through.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Well the good news for the Scorchers is the Sixers are going full England

 

[FKASC]

Well the good news for the Scorchers is the Sixers are going full England

Like I said earlier - their batting depth will be too good for other teams to overcome IMO

 

[Truckosaurus]

Like I said earlier - their batting depth will be too good for other teams to overcome IMO

It was certainly a huge comeback.

 

[bUCKET__]

Renegades might as well merge with Gold Coast, ****ing rabble in every way

 

[ioppolo]

Renegades might as well merge with Gold Coast, ******* rabble in every way

Have more BBL titles than the Stars

 

[The Passenger]

I think the big problem is they have changed county cricket's season around a lot to fit in a lot more 50 over and T20. It means there isn't as much continuity and a lot of the younger players are playing significantly more of the short ball game so a lot of their up and comers do well in the short forms but aren't great at building partnerships and spending a lot of time at the crease.

Yes, and the English don't have a large enough window of summer to push their county competition to the edges.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Bad news for Australia - England's coach is going to miss the fourth Test as he's stuck in Melbourne. Let's hope they arrange a video link or something for him so he can still make terrible decisions.

 

[THE A5]

I think the big problem is they have changed county cricket's season around a lot to fit in a lot more 50 over and T20. It means there isn't as much continuity and a lot of the younger players are playing significantly more of the short ball game so a lot of their up and comers do well in the short forms but aren't great at building partnerships and spending a lot of time at the crease.

It's also part of the reason why whilst the West Indies test side have been terribly sh*te for a long time now they have in patches been very good at T20 in particular because they play a lot of it.

I can also see this being a reason why a team like India may struggle in 5-10 years time because outside they play so much more 50 over and T20 cricket than anyone. So even with cricket basically being the country's religion and having a ridiculously huge population they may struggle to play in New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, England and the West Indies (if they can get their sh*t together)

Whilst Australia's team looks the goods in Australia, England, South Africa and to a lesser extent New Zealand a lot of our current international team and in particular state players are pretty good against the quicks but really have very poor technique against spin.

Some of the newer bowling machines in particular can be rigged to spin the ball and I would love for our batsmen to have to spend large hours in net setups where pitches are prepared similar to the subcontinent where finger spinners get a lot more slide and spin on the ball than our players are used to facing.

The basic principal of facing spin is around footwork. Get to the pitch of the ball and hit with the spin, even if it's a defensive shot. Or if you can't get to the pitch of the ball move back into the crease and play defensively or leave as much as possible. The biggest reason to hit with the spin is that it generally means if you are getting an edge it's going to be an inside edge into your pads rather than an outside edge. Sitting at the crease if the ball stays low you are wide open for LBW, or if it sits up at a normal level you are open to edging on both sides of the bat.

I'd love to see Damian Martyn and or Michael Clarke providing batting coaching against spin.

India tho seems to be having a golden period now doing well in just about every condition around the world and thats with Kohli not making runs. I read some where he only averages like 25 in test cricket since nov 2019

 

[THE A5]

 

[Dazzler9]

Boonie has just been diagnosed with Covid.

Poor Covid.