Bigfooty Official Phantom Draft - recruiter notes

[partypie]

Knightmare.. any lads in the draft like the Gimp re? Someone who can like waltz in to the Love Island Villa and create kaos in the sense that all the lads wanna be him and women wanna be with him and shit like that?

I doubt it re.. when God created me.. he threw away the mould mate.. that's it mate.

I wouldn't be getting your hopes up gimp or you'll end up crying like the poor lass who didn't get to wear all of her outfits before she was given the heave-ho.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I wouldn't be getting your hopes up gimp or you'll end up crying like the poor lass who didn't get to wear all of her outfits before she was given the heave-ho.

She's lucky all her outfits survived.. mine woulda got torn to shreds re.. my beauty is my curse and that re. I've learnt to live with it. Nothing I can do about it re.. I try and act like a braindead dickhead to counter act it.. f I always get.. 'hmmm I don't think you're that dumb for some reason'. It's the combo of Greek charm.. striking good looks.. demeanor and a high level of intelligence and fashion sense and shit like that gets them every time.

Oh well.. thems the breaks mate.

 

[sr36]

I don’t think he’ll be a key back at AFL level. Probably a 3rd tall/HBF.

If he's strong and cam read the ball flight, 192cm is tall enough.

 

[jackcass]

If he's strong and cam read the ball flight, 192cm is tall enough.

Yep. Heath Grundy 1 who comes to mind. Speed, strength, reach, and reading of the play can compensate for lacking a cm or 2.

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare was Brock Smith on the board at 35?

I’m strong on the need to replenish our small/ medium defensive stocks with Aish and Murray gone, Greenwood’s career on hold for most of 2020 and big Q’s on Appleby I think he’s one that might really appeal to our recruiters. His athletic profile may turn off a few on here, but his R50 numbers look elite and combined with his confrontational approach he has a Vlaustin vibe about him (a lesser talent obviously).

It seems that Pie 4 Life has him in the 25-50 range so he’s one I’ll be keeping an eye on come draft night ala Murphy in 17.

Brock Smith was still available at 35. For me that's too early to invest and I can't see anyone he plays ahead of. Crisp/Howe/Maynard/Langdon/Quaynor is a solid group of general defenders I'd be looking to roll out with most weeks. Scharenberg/Applyby and the club want to see more of Murphy, so I'm not sharing that urgency or seeing anyone Smith could realistically play in front of.

I'm about looking for best 22 players and I don't see room for another defender unless we're talking about someone elite who can displace one of those.

Perhaps one could be considered as a rookie let's say if we felt they were clear best available, but I'm not seeing any urgency. I look at key forwards, key defenders, general forwards (numerous) and high quality mids as being the club's list needs personally.

With KPF/KPDs I expect value and guys of high quality who I feel will be best 22 players in the future or I pass so as not to waste list positions and with the club's midfielders good but getting old any mids added because they're so easy to find whether through trade or draft most years is also about taking quality. This year has a lot of good general forwards, and they're turning out with each pick to be best available in this draft, so that's the direction/theme I'd be going with most picks, particularly with the evenness and shallowness of this draft and a lot of the forwards this year having those best 22 capabilities.

 

[Apex36]

If he's strong and cam read the ball flight, 192cm is tall enough.

I didn’t say it wasn’t. I just think the way he plays suits him to another role, even though he’s capable of playing at a key position.

 

[Scodog10]

Brock Smith was still available at 35. For me that's too early to invest and I can't see anyone he plays ahead of. Crisp/Howe/Maynard/Langdon/Quaynor is a solid group of general defenders I'd be looking to roll out with most weeks. Scharenberg/Applyby and the club want to see more of Murphy, so I'm not sharing that urgency or seeing anyone Smith could realistically play in front of.

I'm about looking for best 22 players and I don't see room for another defender unless we're talking about someone elite who can displace one of those.

Perhaps one could be considered as a rookie let's say if we felt they were clear best available, but I'm not seeing any urgency. I look at key forwards, key defenders, general forwards (numerous) and high quality mids as being the club's list needs personally.

With KPF/KPDs I expect value and guys of high quality who I feel will be best 22 players in the future or I pass so as not to waste list positions and with the club's midfielders good but getting old any mids added because they're so easy to find whether through trade or draft most years is also about taking quality. This year has a lot of good general forwards, and they're turning out with each pick to be best available in this draft, so that's the direction/theme I'd be going with most picks, particularly with the evenness and shallowness of this draft and a lot of the forwards this year having those best 22 capabilities.

I appreciate the response KM.

Our views on list management vary greatly so I’m less concerned with the thoughts on him as a fit and more as a prospect. For instance you named 5 guys to fill the 5 spots we have, alongside Roughead and Moore, next year. One guy didn’t play after Rd 8 and another has 3 games to his name. The back up we have was shopped around post 19 and the other two missed most of the season with ankle injuries. General defenders is an area of need in both the short and mid term.

If the values there with general forwards (a guy like Keays is someone we’d be crazy not to consider) I expect that’s where we’ll go so long as they have positional flexibility. With the signing of Wilson, probable retention of Dunn and recruitment of Cameron KPP isn’t an area I expect we’ll address this draft. The quality just won’t be there as you pointed out and the depth is stronger in 2020 than 2019 already...

 

[Knightmare]

I appreciate the response KM.

Our views on list management vary greatly so I’m less concerned with the thoughts on him as a fit and more as a prospect. For instance you named 5 guys to fill the 5 spots we have, alongside Roughead and Moore, next year. One guy didn’t play after Rd 8 and another has 3 games to his name. The back up we have was shopped around post 19 and the other two missed most of the season with ankle injuries. General defenders is an area of need in both the short and mid term.

If the values there with general forwards (a guy like Keays is someone we’d be crazy not to consider) I expect that’s where we’ll go so long as they have positional flexibility. With the signing of Wilson, probable retention of Dunn and recruitment of Cameron KPP isn’t an area I expect we’ll address this draft. The quality just won’t be there as you pointed out and the depth is stronger in 2020 than 2019 already...

Greenwood is another if/when he comes back in defence. Varcoe can swing back as required though i tend to prefer him wing/hf. Tyler Brown can be asked to play in defence. Will Hoskin-Elliott I wouldn't hesitate to move into defence, nor Josh Daicos as two non-essential players in their current positions. Noble may be back also and can play back. So while it's a bit of positional movement, if worse comes to worse, things I feel can be covered in defence and it's a spot where I'd only consider one defender if it's a best available.

In the bigfooty phantom draft rather than taking Sokol with my second pick, who I would have taken later otherwise, Angus Baker who won the NEAFL Rising Star would have been my selection and he's really good off half-back. If you wanted one, and one who I'd have displacing Quaynor from that defence rotation, Baker is my guy. I was stunned Baker was even picked with the Bigfooty recruiters tending to be better versed on junior talent than state league talent.

Positional flexibility in forwards I consider advantageous rather than a requirement. Of the three I've taken so far, only really Mahony has shown he can push through the midfield. Sokol I feel could if asked, but he never has been as he has the traits to make that transition. While Lowson is more just a forward at this stage in his development. Why I don't feel any forwards picks have to be able to role through the midfield is in considering those good forwards Collingwood have already - De Goey, Stephenson. Those guys I want pushing up the field more in 2020 with De Goey at more stoppages and Stephenson more running up the wings and providing more run and carry which I'd like to see more of from him. Elliott is a permanent forward, then it's mids who can rest forward to some extent.

If constructing a best 22 with the players I've added, I'd be looking at something like:
B: Tom Langdon Jordan Roughead Brayden Maynard
HB: Jack Crisp Darcy Moore Jeremy Howe
CEN: Tom Phillips Adam Treloar Steele Sidebottom
HF: Jaidyn Stephenson Brody Mihocek Ben Sokol
F: Jordan De Goey Mason Cox Jamie Elliott
FOLL: Brodie Grundy Scott Pendlebury Taylor Adams
BENCH: Chris Mayne Dayne Beams Isaac Quaynor
One of: Jack Mahony/Sam Lowson for the last position as a crumbing forward
Removed from best 22 after additions: Will Hoskin-Elliott Brayden Sier

I could even add guys like Haiden Schloithe and Jye Bolton to improve that best side further to displace Mahony/Lowson and possibly depending on form one of Beams/Mayne through the mids if I'm to decide to go the all-in win-now approach.

 

[nahnah]

Team Sokol. Just like the name tbh

 

[sr36]

Greenwood is another if/when he comes back in defence. Varcoe can swing back as required though i tend to prefer him wing/hf. Tyler Brown can be asked to play in defence. Will Hoskin-Elliott I wouldn't hesitate to move into defence, nor Josh Daicos as two non-essential players in their current positions. Noble may be back also and can play back. So while it's a bit of positional movement, if worse comes to worse, things I feel can be covered in defence and it's a spot where I'd only consider one defender if it's a best available.

Whilst I don't necessarily agree on Daicos, I also think you can re-train most mids or forwards into defenders. I personally wouldn't draft a small defender unless he had some weapons to be a genuinely attacking one.

 

[grayza2018]

Whilst I don't necessarily agree on Daicos, I also think you can re-train most mids or forwards into defenders. I personally wouldn't draft a small defender unless he had some weapons to be a genuinely attacking one.

We did that with Aish didn't we, so I guess it can be done again

 

[sr36]

We did that with Aish didn't we, so I guess it can be done again

And Greenwood and Crisp and Leon Davis and Ben Johnson and ...

 

[Knightmare]

And Greenwood and Crisp and Leon Davis and Ben Johnson and ...

Howe also. Plenty who do it.

And generally few defenders look great as juniors. Basically guys who can mark, kick, win 1v1s and run can transition pretty easily.

Whilst I don't necessarily agree on Daicos, I also think you can re-train most mids or forwards into defenders. I personally wouldn't draft a small defender unless he had some weapons to be a genuinely attacking one.

Agree with you on drafting of defenders. Not many stand out as juniors and it's so often guys transitioning from other positions with the better talents as juniors used more so as mids or sometimes forwards.

Playing in defence doesn't generally require the same talent level as other positions to learn or become effective. Often a good move if unsatisfied with a player or unable to find a spot for them in a best 22.

On Daicos, I look at him as movable to defence as he's not a best 22 player and someone who can be afforded to be moved if the club suddenly had a mass outbreak of defenders getting hurt.

 

[sr36]

On Daicos, I look at him as movable to defence as he's not a best 22 player and someone who can be afforded to be moved if the club suddenly had a mass outbreak of defenders getting hurt.

With Daicos, it's not a reluctance to move him, it's just that i don't view him as strong enough in a contest yet to play defence. To me, he's physically NQR for any AFL role at the moment. He needs to target either endurance for outside mid or strength for defence. At his pace, he's not freakish enough for forward. I don't particularly like his chances TBH. I view Broomhead in the same way.

 

[sr36]

Team Sokol. Just like the name tbh

Strong surname. I'm not convinced on Ben though - a bit wishy washy in my book. Although Stokes has elevated it.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

If we don't draft Georgiades.. I f swear man.. I'd f decline Love Island's Margarita's offer of sharing a bed together.. cause I'm not particularly attracted to her personality. Ti lesssssssss re.

I have f had it man.. that's it for me. I can't do this shit no more.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Has there ever been anyone in the history of recruitment and shit like that that has been accurately able to gauge where a players career is heading over the course of 10 yrs.. just by simply looking at em play for 5 minutes with hand on chin.. no notes mate. The runs are on the board mate.

I can't teach you how to pick a winner.. it's a combination of being worldly and shit like that.. travelling to all 5 continents.. knowing my fragrances.. the value of a good hairdresser.. the fact that shoes maketh the man and that re.. and a twinkle in the eye mate.. that's it mate.

Get me on board re Hyne ffs re.

 

[Scodog10]

Greenwood is another if/when he comes back in defence. Varcoe can swing back as required though i tend to prefer him wing/hf. Tyler Brown can be asked to play in defence. Will Hoskin-Elliott I wouldn't hesitate to move into defence, nor Josh Daicos as two non-essential players in their current positions. Noble may be back also and can play back. So while it's a bit of positional movement, if worse comes to worse, things I feel can be covered in defence and it's a spot where I'd only consider one defender if it's a best available.

In the bigfooty phantom draft rather than taking Sokol with my second pick, who I would have taken later otherwise, Angus Baker who won the NEAFL Rising Star would have been my selection and he's really good off half-back. If you wanted one, and one who I'd have displacing Quaynor from that defence rotation, Baker is my guy. I was stunned Baker was even picked with the Bigfooty recruiters tending to be better versed on junior talent than state league talent.

Positional flexibility in forwards I consider advantageous rather than a requirement. Of the three I've taken so far, only really Mahony has shown he can push through the midfield. Sokol I feel could if asked, but he never has been as he has the traits to make that transition. While Lowson is more just a forward at this stage in his development. Why I don't feel any forwards picks have to be able to role through the midfield is in considering those good forwards Collingwood have already - De Goey, Stephenson. Those guys I want pushing up the field more in 2020 with De Goey at more stoppages and Stephenson more running up the wings and providing more run and carry which I'd like to see more of from him. Elliott is a permanent forward, then it's mids who can rest forward to some extent.

If constructing a best 22 with the players I've added, I'd be looking at something like:
B: Tom Langdon Jordan Roughead Brayden Maynard
HB: Jack Crisp Darcy Moore Jeremy Howe
CEN: Tom Phillips Adam Treloar Steele Sidebottom
HF: Jaidyn Stephenson Brody Mihocek Ben Sokol
F: Jordan De Goey Mason Cox Jamie Elliott
FOLL: Brodie Grundy Scott Pendlebury Taylor Adams
BENCH: Chris Mayne Dayne Beams Isaac Quaynor
One of: Jack Mahony/Sam Lowson for the last position as a crumbing forward
Removed from best 22 after additions: Will Hoskin-Elliott Brayden Sier

I could even add guys like Haiden Schloithe and Jye Bolton to improve that best side further to displace Mahony/Lowson and possibly depending on form one of Beams/Mayne through the mids if I'm to decide to go the all-in win-now approach.

We’re delving a bit much into list management here, but I’ll confidently say that Greenwood won’t come into the clubs future planning at this draft.

He won’t play prior to QB, he’ll then need a month at VFL level to get up to speed and ultimately won’t be the player he was pre-knee in 2020. Asking the likes of Brown, WHE and Daicos to play defensive roles is a vastly different scenario to them actually doing it. None of them realistically will get close to what a Smith could offer even in year 1 because they aren’t defenders. We’re also really scraping the bottom of the barrel if we turn to Varcoe. The likes of Adams and Mayne are other candidates for defensive roles, but for me that’s not proactive list management.

One observation though I would absolutely agree with is using mids in a defensive role. The problem is that we don’t have many options currently on the list, IMO. I can’t comment on individuals so I’ll keep an open mind on the names you suggested and in general keep tabs on ground level players with traits we tend to value (high production, clean hands and competitiveness).

Edit: thinking further your best 22 makes little sense. We’ve won 30+ games over the list two seasons so we all agree we’re win now. With that being the case there’s no chance our best 22 will include 2 debutants and a 4th gamer with the start to the season we have. Especially given those two draftees are late draft talents (even if it were Rowell and Anderson I’d be skeptical of both being in there). It’s the AFL not fantasy footy and the only way that happens is if we have injuries leading into the season.

 

[LarryKinn]

Aish is gone and Greeenwood wont be back till the last 3rd of the season. My preference is IQ and Murphy to fill those roles with Noble and Appleby next in line
I still see the biggest list needs as KPF and crumber. Draft Ricardi and Pickett then use our last pick to elevate Lynch

 

[HFF]

#61 Collingwood - Ben Sokol
A goalkicking medium forward, Ben Sokol won the Simpson Medal for best on ground in the WAFL Grand Final. Sokol was the WAFL’s leading goalkicker, kicking 60 goals from 20 games while also taking a competition high 166 marks. A hard-leading forward, Sokol demonstrates a high work rate, has a strong body and has developed a reputation for having the strongest hands overhead outside the AFL.

*35 on my draft board.
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Rationale:
I can't say I had any intention of selecting Sokol here with my expectation being that I could snag him as a rookie, I'd prefer to take someone of AFL standard who is plug-and-play here rather than speculate on a kid who has a couple of traits with 'yeah buts' which is what's left to my eye.

Sokol is one I loved in his draft year from 2013, and still really like, stepping things up each year.

In Collingwood's front half I don't only rate Sokol ahead of Thomas/Varcoe/C.Brown/Daicos, but I also rate Sokol ahead of Will Hoskin-Elliott and feel that's the spot he ultimately takes as a more complete, consistent and influential player.

Sokol adds further flexibility and weaponry to Collingwood's front half as someone who opponents will find hard to match up against as such a powerful mark and body-on-body player who uses his body so well but then has the endurance to work opponents over. If required while he's only 186cm, he can be a fill-in key forward and provide a focal point as needed, and can play a similar role to De Goey which could allow De Goey (still should be used primarily forward) some more regular midfield stints in 2020.

While Sokol hasn't ever played through the midfield, he reminds me so much stylistically of Dane Swan (the forward from earlier in his career before he became a full-time mid) with his body strength and bodywork, overhead marking, work rate and has those same football smarts and instincts for when to hit the ball or contest on the move and the clean hands in close to take it. Then he's obviously adding to all that the scoreboard impact on a high level.

Seriously now.....you may rate the player and watch plenty of under 18 or state league level but that bolded comment is outrageous.
WHE averages a goal a game at the elite level. Not a secondary one---the elite level.
This would be higher had he managed more than 2,9 and 11 games in 3 of his 8 seasons which were ruined by injury.

He is not ahead of WHE.

 

[Apex36]

Seriously now.....you may rate the player and watch plenty of under 18 or state league level but that bolded comment is outrageous.
WHE averages a goal a game at the elite level. Not a secondary one---the elite level.
This would be higher had he managed more than 2,9 and 11 games in 3 of his 8 seasons which were ruined by injury.

He is not ahead of WHE.

The key with WHE is getting a pre-season in to him. He averaged 1.6 goals per game last year, and it would have been more if he hadn’t been playing on one leg for the latter stages. Interrupted 2019 preseason sees his output way down but still 1 gpg. It’s a little ridiculous to rate a 60 goal state league player better than a 40 goal AFL player, regardless of how high you rate the untried state leaguer.

 

[TradeDraft]

The key with WHE is getting a pre-season in to him. He averaged 1.6 goals per game last year, and it would have been more if he hadn’t been playing on one leg for the latter stages. Interrupted 2019 preseason sees his output way down but still 1 gpg. It’s a little ridiculous to rate a 60 goal state league player better than a 40 goal AFL player, regardless of how high you rate the untried state leaguer.

Had Same Problem at GWS.

Kept getting Niggling Injuries that Held Him Back but when 100% Fit he is a Gun/Game Winner

 

[Knightmare]

Seriously now.....you may rate the player and watch plenty of under 18 or state league level but that bolded comment is outrageous.
WHE averages a goal a game at the elite level. Not a secondary one---the elite level.
This would be higher had he managed more than 2,9 and 11 games in 3 of his 8 seasons which were ruined by injury.

He is not ahead of WHE.

WHE is fast, covers a lot of ground, can mark and hit the scoreboard (or at least did in 2018). On the other hand he doesn't find enough of it (has never averaged close to 20d per game in a season), is allergic to winning the contested ball (averages less than 5cp per game and averaged 1cp between the two finals this year) which makes him a liability when it's finals time, pressure he provides and ground level stuff is below average by position. I'm not committed to WHE, nor convinced he should be in the club's best 22. He's someone I'd ideally like to see passed by someone better.

I'd take Sokol. Much better ground ball/contested ball winner. Stronger mark and will take many more marks. Finds the ball more easily. Hits the scoreboard more heavily. A much smarter and more natural footballer overall. Not nearly as fast, but it's mostly the speed and hops that WHE has, otherwise there isn't anything else that immediately comes to mind that is better from WHE than Sokol.

If we don't draft Georgiades.. I f swear man.. I'd f decline Love Island's Margarita's offer of sharing a bed together.. cause I'm not particularly attracted to her personality. Ti lesssssssss re.

I have f had it man.. that's it for me. I can't do this shit no more.

Georgiades is glimpses of talent over performance. He's not inside my top 40 and probably won't be in my top 50. He's someone who should be taken in the national draft, but is someone I'd only be willing to take as a rookie. He's not someone I could pick with confidence having not played this year and with his 2018 play patchy and only good in glimpses.

We’re delving a bit much into list management here, but I’ll confidently say that Greenwood won’t come into the clubs future planning at this draft.

He won’t play prior to QB, he’ll then need a month at VFL level to get up to speed and ultimately won’t be the player he was pre-knee in 2020. Asking the likes of Brown, WHE and Daicos to play defensive roles is a vastly different scenario to them actually doing it. None of them realistically will get close to what a Smith could offer even in year 1 because they aren’t defenders. We’re also really scraping the bottom of the barrel if we turn to Varcoe. The likes of Adams and Mayne are other candidates for defensive roles, but for me that’s not proactive list management.

One observation though I would absolutely agree with is using mids in a defensive role. The problem is that we don’t have many options currently on the list, IMO. I can’t comment on individuals so I’ll keep an open mind on the names you suggested and in general keep tabs on ground level players with traits we tend to value (high production, clean hands and competitiveness).

Edit: thinking further your best 22 makes little sense. We’ve won 30+ games over the list two seasons so we all agree we’re win now. With that being the case there’s no chance our best 22 will include 2 debutants and a 4th gamer with the start to the season we have. Especially given those two draftees are late draft talents (even if it were Rowell and Anderson I’d be skeptical of both being in there). It’s the AFL not fantasy footy and the only way that happens is if we have injuries leading into the season.

Shifting to defence performance can be a lot quicker than you'd think. Leon Davis did it first year upon making the switch, likewise Howe and Crisp.

Overall it's me not rating Brown/Daicos and to a lesser extent WHE who for me is (just) inside my best 22 but someone if a few good players are added who I'd have lose his spot in a fully healthy side.

Where my view contrasts to your own re. Collingwood's best 22 is I don't hold the totality of the best 22 in as high regard. Beams I'm uncertain where he stands firstly (if he can return to 2018 or earlier Beams no dramas he's a definite starter), Sier is (just) in my current best 22 but one I'd move out for someone better if he doesn't play better this year, WHE I'm fine with playing but don't hold in particularly high regard from that side I mentioned earlier. Mayne is capable but can be passed by and is someone I'd ideally like to see succeeded. Quaynor in defence I consider good enough to get regular games this year but depending on who is added and how good they are he could be forced to wait longer if someone else with a more advanced/better game is added. So depending on the quality of players added or how advanced their games, I do see chances for players to come in.

All the guys I've added are better than several of the players who got regular games in 2019. eg. all of them I regard ahead of Callum Brown who for mine doesn't as a 0.5 goal per game fwd/mid who can't even average 15 disposals per game isn't playing to a high enough standard. Decent as his pressure is. I'd rather a Lowson as a direct replacement who can bring that, but brings even more speed, better crumbing and can hit the scoreboard more.

Aish is gone and Greeenwood wont be back till the last 3rd of the season. My preference is IQ and Murphy to fill those roles with Noble and Appleby next in line
I still see the biggest list needs as KPF and crumber. Draft Ricardi and Pickett then use our last pick to elevate Lynch

I have IQ in and like you I'd like to see some of Murphy to get a sample and see how he holds up at AFL level for an extended stretch if we're looking for an injury replacement at some point.

Riccardi I like and would have no issue with taking at 35 or with one of the later picks if there. I strongly considered him at 35 in the bigfooty draft but there were a couple available who I slightly preferred, though knowing I'd be able to get all these forwards if I had my time again I'd possibly have taken him.

Pickett I think could go earlier than expected. There is talk one or two clubs inside the top-30 are considering him. And for me that's ridiculous for a 171cm forward who only averaged 13.7d, 2.3m, 2.7t and 0.7g per game during the U18 Champs. He's high impact per possession and his pressure really causes teams trouble, so he's influential and a possible piece, but I wouldn't want to spend a top-30 pick on him and I'd rather not pay a top-40 pick on him. He won't be available at Collingwood's later pick from the sound of things, so if Collingwood liked Pickett and he was available at 35, that's the pick that likely would be needed to take him.

 

[Knightmare]

104 - Collingwood - Haiden Schloithe
Winning the 2017 Sandover Medal ahead of then teammate Tim Kelly, former Fremantle rookie Haiden Schloithe remains one of the best players outside the AFL. The classy 26-year-old midfielder/forward has averaged almost 26 disposals per game over the past three seasons while averaging more than one goal per game each year.

110 - Collingwood - Jye Bolton
Winner of the 2016 and 2018 Sandover Medals for the WAFL’s fairest and best, Jye Bolton is a ready-to-go midfielder. The 27-year-old, former Collingwood rookie has averaged 29 disposals over the past four seasons. He can play inside or outside and remains one of the best midfielders outside the AFL.

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I found myself not loving any of the u18s enough to take in the national draft so I took two who can contend for if not win best 22 spots in their own right.

Schloithe as a mid/fwd can rotate between the two positions and Bolton who provides coverage inside or outside mid.

I consider to see the WAFL pair good enough to play regularly on any AFL side as two who should have been re-drafted years ago.

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To update that earlier best 22:
B: Tom Langdon Jordan Roughead Brayden Maynard
HB: Jack Crisp Darcy Moore Jeremy Howe
CEN: Tom Phillips Adam Treloar Steele Sidebottom
HF: Jaidyn Stephenson Brody Mihocek Haiden Schloithe
F: Jordan De Goey Mason Cox Jamie Elliott
FOLL: Brodie Grundy Scott Pendlebury Taylor Adams
BENCH: Dayne Beams Jye Bolton Ben Sokol Isaac Quaynor
Out: Chris Mayne, WHE, Sier (from what out be my best 22 pre-draft)

 

[TradeDraft]

104 - Collingwood - Haiden Schloithe
Winning the 2017 Sandover Medal ahead of then teammate Tim Kelly, former Fremantle rookie Haiden Schloithe remains one of the best players outside the AFL. The classy 26-year-old midfielder/forward has averaged almost 26 disposals per game over the past three seasons while averaging more than one goal per game each year.

110 - Collingwood - Jye Bolton
Winner of the 2016 and 2018 Sandover Medals for the WAFL’s fairest and best, Jye Bolton is a ready-to-go midfielder. The 27-year-old, former Collingwood rookie has averaged 29 disposals over the past four seasons. He can play inside or outside and remains one of the best midfielders outside the AFL.

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I found myself not loving any of the u18s enough to take in the national draft so I took two who can contend for if not win best 22 spots in their own right.

Schloithe as a mid/fwd can rotate between the two positions and Bolton who provides coverage inside or outside mid.

I consider to see the WAFL pair good enough to play regularly on any AFL side as two who should have been re-drafted years ago.

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To update that earlier best 22:
B: Tom Langdon Jordan Roughead Brayden Maynard
HB: Jack Crisp Darcy Moore Jeremy Howe
CEN: Tom Phillips Adam Treloar Steele Sidebottom
HF: Jaidyn Stephenson Brody Mihocek Haiden Schloithe
F: Jordan De Goey Mason Cox Jamie Elliott
FOLL: Brodie Grundy Scott Pendlebury Taylor Adams
BENCH: Dayne Beams Jye Bolton Ben Sokol Isaac Quaynor
Out: Chris Mayne, WHE, Sier (from what out be my best 22 pre-draft)

I highly doubt we use those Picks.

Why Take Haiden Schloithe and Bolton as they keep getting passed over year after year after year after Year?