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This I wasn't expecting. The tribunal said it wasn't all that reckless, despite the fact that it left Dish groggy for a couple of minutes. I guess they'll start cracking down on head high contact in round two.
 
On the day I thought he'd get at least a week for it, but looking at the footage on the news today it didn't look as bad as I first thought. Still pleasantly surprised that he got off.
 
*sigh* ahhh thats a relief.

I can hardly believe that both Wayne and Rhett are free to play this weekend. How nice.

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Originally posted by McLeod23
Does that mean Hudson will miss out against Brisbane?
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I think thats might be the case.

As I said in the other thread I was expecting him to get a couple especially since Bassett got pinged last year for a lot less. Biglands is one VERY lucky boy.
 
IMO, this decision was an absolute no brainer, and shouldn't have even been reported in the first place. It was blatantly obvious he was going for the ball and not the player. I was surprised that the umpires didn't admit they made the wrong decision here, but the tribunal has proved that they did, so it's all good.
 
Originally posted by brucetiki
IMO, this decision was an absolute no brainer, and shouldn't have even been reported in the first place. It was blatantly obvious he was going for the ball and not the player. I was surprised that the umpires didn't admit they made the wrong decision here, but the tribunal has proved that they did, so it's all good.
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Reckless.

An offense doesn't have to be deliberate for it to be reportable or even suspendable, recklessness is a legitimate reason for suspension.
 
Originally posted by brucetiki
It was blatantly obvious he was going for the ball and not the player.
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What difference does this make if you connect with players head and make no contact with the ball. There are many more cases similar to this one where players get rubbed out. Biglands is a very lucky boy and his good record must have come into play. It was reckles and probably deserved a suspension.

Bassett got pinged last year for a lot less.
 
Originally posted by Petrie Dish
Reckless.

An offense doesn't have to be deliberate for it to be reportable or even suspendable, recklessness is a legitimate reason for suspension.
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Exactly, others have got games for being reckless before. Rhett was very lucky not to get at least a game. He needs to fire up this week against Keating & Charman, or Hudson may still get a game soon!
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
What difference does this make if you connect with players head and make no contact with the ball. There are many more cases similar to this one where players get rubbed out. Biglands is a very lucky boy and his good record must have come into play. It was reckles and probably deserved a suspension.

Bassett got pinged last year for a lot less.
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The whole umpring and tribunal thing has left me wondering even after round one. I wonder what is going with them at times, they are clueless.

I agree the tribunal is there to stop both blatant attempts to hurt other players and reckless acts. If he had broken Petrie's jaw he would of got 3-4 weeks. Contact to the head is very dangerous and should be dealt with, no need for too harsh a penalty, just long enough for the player to think twice. His contact was late and avoidable.

So Petrie marks, gets whacked in the head, gets no 50m penalty and is not penalised. What does that tell players? All you have to do is time it when a player is going for a mark and then you have free reign to knock their block off?

It just sends a bad message. I have nothing against the player, I want Adelaide to field as strong a team as possible. But I think its important for the game that reckless and avoidable hits are minimised.

From the angel Biglands was coming from the only way he was going to spoil the mark was to rip Petrie's head off. I think his judgement was poor because it was hot and he was probably dead tired, still, you need to protect the player going for the ball who is vulnerable to hits like that.
 

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I thought Bassett's was worse.

What did he get? 1 week or 2?

I notice some people have said "2-3 weeks"... three weeks would have been way over the top going on previous similar incidents.
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Biglands is a nice bloke but I wouldn't go that far :p
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Hehehe, maybe I was thinking of fairy when I had him on my mind and how he played. :P

I meant angle. ;)
 
Im glad for you Crows supporters that Biglands got off as I think he's a good player - but he shouldn't have.
I'm a Collingwood supporter, but most of you would know that I'm one who tries not to be totally biased (I thought I would preface the following comments with that fact, so you all know that I am a Magpie and you can't say I'm bitter).

Let's flash back to the 2002 preliminary final - Collingwood v Adelaide.

Jason Cloke wacks Tyson Edwards in the head. Edwards, who was playing quite well at the time, falls and plasters his nose all over the MCG.
Apart from the fact that Adelaide supporters claimed at the time it stopped their team's momentum, Cloke was reported for reckless contact.

For mine, Biglands' contact with Petrie was very similar to Cloke's on Edwards.
round arm connecting with side of face in an attempt to spoil the ball a little too late.

Biglands gets no games and a two minute tribunal hearing.
Cloke misses grand final, and I think first game of opening round of last season.

These decisions say nothing about the players or their clubs - neither are thugs. But, to me, what it really does highlight is the inconsistency of the AFL tribunbal.

A) If a player is injured the tribunal will look at it more dimly...
B) Finals are apparently treated differently when considering the illegality of offences.

At the time I was a little disgusted that Cloke got games, I am now further disgusted that the inconsistency of the AFL tribunal has allowed another player to get off scott free for a very similar incident.

It's time to get it right.


*find faults, blast me, whatever - but this is just one sportsfan's opinion.
 
Doggy,

from a person who also likes to think he is not biased the big difference for mine between the two incidents was that Cloke got Edwards in the head with his fist. It was nowhere near the ball.

Biglands hit Petrie's head with his arm, his fist was closer to the ball than Petrie's head. This distinction is why I don't believe Biglands was reckless.

And good to see you on the Crows board, you might be converted yet :D
 
It happened virtually infront of where I was sitting and it didnt look much to me so yeah not surprised he got off;) So after the disaster on Sunday what changes to the side can we expect this week????????

I thought Hentshell looked lost on Sunday:rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by naughty monkey
from a person who also likes to think he is not biased the big difference for mine between the two incidents was that Cloke got Edwards in the head with his fist. It was nowhere near the ball.

Biglands hit Petrie's head with his arm, his fist was closer to the ball than Petrie's head.
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I think you got it in one.

There is a distinct different between 2 incidents. Cloke got Edwards in the face with his fist. Knocked him out and once Edwards hit the ground he broke his nose. Cloke's fist was nowhere near the ball.

Biglands on the other hand got Petrie to the side of the head with the inside of his bicept and his fist was closer to the ball than Petrie face. Yes it was reckless and IMHO it guaranteed a suspension BUT to class the 2 incidents as very similar is a bit ludicrious.
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think you got it in one.

There is a distinct different between 2 incidents. Cloke got Edwards in the face with his fist. Knocked him out and once Edwards hit the ground he broke his nose. Cloke's fist was nowhere near the ball.

Biglands on the other hand got Petrie to the side of the head with the inside of his bicept and his fist was closer to the ball than Petrie face. Yes it was reckless and IMHO it guaranteed a suspension BUT to class the 2 incidents as very similar is a bit ludicrious.
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The Cloke one was worse than Biglands, however both were reckless incidents. IMO, the difference should have been in the severity of the penalty - ie. 2 games for Cloke, 1 for Biglands. IMO, Rhett is lucky he is playing thiw week.
 
Originally posted by naughty monkey
Doggy,

And good to see you on the Crows board, you might be converted yet :D
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Naughty Monkey have to agree to disagree slightly.


As for converting to the Crows - my wife has been trying to convert me as long as I've known her. No chance!
If you want to know about our last Crows v Collingwood viewing experience together I can pass you on a link to a story I wrote last year. You'll love it.
 

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