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With the fresh beginning in 2026 ... Sam Walsh as Captain would be the go I reckon.
This would take the pressure off Crippa to lead the team out each week as Captain and give him some much needed time off during the season knowing that the team is in good hands.
 
I read somewhere that Walsh was pushing his case but not sure if there is any truth to that?

Id be very happy if he stays but understand if he doesnt. Will trust the club on that one.

I do wonder how this is all affecting Ollie. Whether Lij getting delisted would damage our relationship with him or actually be a relief.
I've heard that Walsh is one of those speaking up to keep Lij. Even going so far as to offer him a room at his place.Shows the sign of a good leader there.
 
You people spend too much time typing in the same room.

Grow your hair long.

Smile every now & then.

Eat some fruit.

The world is good.
My hair is long :D halfway down my back now. But I need to get it lopped off to donate it to wigs for cancer :D
 
I've heard that Walsh is one of those speaking up to keep Lij. Even going so far as to offer him a room at his place.Shows the sign of a good leader there.
Yes absolutely Sam Walsh exudes leadership form the first moment he wore the Navey Blue.
Our coaches too should be setting a good example and pushing for EH to be given a final opportunity to redeem his miscreant ways of the past and help himbecome a cohesive and productive team member. Wish him well.
 

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Fairly clear that we’re missing:
1 more explosive small forward
1 more dynamic midfielder
1 more key defender
Another key forward.

With 4 key pieces needed, I’d say we are out of the running for Butters and we may be looking like another offseason like this one.

Perhaps a throw at the stumps at Bailey Humphrey and then collecting a few b-graders.
Moir
Jagga + Walker
Dean + Hof
HoK

I think all we need is a time skip tbh
While I wouldn't call Moir explosive, you can also grab all of those from DFA at the moment really:

Schoenberger
Shiel
Frost
Derksen

Possibility of players like Phillips, Coffield and Harvey being available as well. We clearly don't have the list space for all of them, but they are potentially available. We'd also probably have to forego delisting Elijah in order to wrangle the cap space.
Humphrey may try again next year, but we will be in a tough position as we cant trade high draft picks due to Cody Walker. So unless we trade a good player or they accept future picks, it will be a bit tough.
We do also have in our kitbag TWO x 2027 1st Rounders which of course can be used in trade period next year...
We also have 2027 father-son and academy selections to think about. It's a big run of players coming up.
100% - Crippa, Walsh, George & Cerra does not work!
We’ve seen it for years now, when it’s on our terms they win clearance - but move it poorly and it amounts to SFA.

Cerra playing fit is a better footballer than George & significantly more damaging, Walsh/Crippa isn’t a question who better more/damaging.

George is the weak link - has been for years, yes he’s a good player but provides zero damage - football isn’t picked on “who’s a better player but what provides a better result”,
I give zero ****s he won the B&F!

The fact he’s the “best” in club explains how poor our game plan, style and season was.

I will take Lord & Smith over George every single day, we need to evolve - another season of the same slow, crash, bash, exit backwards, no chase, no burst will be a disaster.

George is where we can improve thru evolving the game style.
His skill set is the exact opposite of what we actually need - not saying he doesn’t do what he does well, just saying it’s not what we need to get better!
I don't blame Hewett for what's happening at all, as it's usually him and Walsh left to close down the spread. We need variety, and more than just Jagga, but it's not about the quality of the personnel, it's about the overall attributes as a regular configuration at the centre bounce.

Looking forward to more looks in 2026, with Moir, Smith, maybe Kemp, Williams, Ainsworth, and perhaps a top 5 draftee...
 
I get the argument, and many were calling for us to "move beyond" Hewett this time last year also. But like I said back then... nobody else can play the defensive mid role like he can. Every team has at least 1 gun mid that you need to (try to) clamp. Vossy at his core loves the contested side of the game. And while we have traded in a manner that suggests we are (FINALLY) looking for more "run and gun" to embrace the modern game, Im sure Voss will still want a level of brutality in the contest. Hewett provides that dependability in that defensive mid role. So while you can go head-to-head, it is fraught with danger. And yes, you can have the best of both Worlds (brutality in the contest with outside run). Brissy have this! And Hewett is to us what Dunkley is to Brisbane. This is why I still believe Hewett will be integral to any new game plan(s) Vossy and Co are working on.

The comparison to Dunkley is interesting. Is Hewett our Dunkley, or is it Cripps?

For a few years, Brisbane had a similiar midfield problem to us - slow to spread and chase. They had Jarryd Lyons who finished 2nd in their 2020 B & F, then 3rd in 2021. Then won a Liston Trophy in 2023 when he was being phased out. The point is, he could play, but the balance was wrong.

Brisbane knew they couldn't play Dunkley and Lyons. Ashcroft effectively replaced Lyons. We are going to have the same issue, fitting in Jagga and then Walker. Something has to give.
 
Given where there list is at and how they are looking it’s probably worth it.
Trac is a straight out difference maker, the bloke can win a game thru sheer will & a 10 min burst.
He’s pretty much unstoppable when he’s in the zone, obviously they think his body can hold up when it counts, thru smart management it’s pretty likely it will.

We’ve all seen Crippa go full beast mode, Trac can do the same & is more dangerous forward.

There only a handful of players that can single-handedly turn a game & they never come cheap.
GC have the depth where they don’t need him to be Superman every game
 
The comparison to Dunkley is interesting. Is Hewett our Dunkley, or is it Cripps?

For a few years, Brisbane had a similiar midfield problem to us - slow to spread and chase. They had Jarryd Lyons who finished 2nd in their 2020 B & F, then 3rd in 2021. Then won a Liston Trophy in 2023 when he was being phased out. The point is, he could play, but the balance was wrong.

Brisbane knew they couldn't play Dunkley and Lyons. Ashcroft effectively replaced Lyons. We are going to have the same issue, fitting in Jagga and then Walker. Something has to give.
Dunkley is a much better footballer than Hewett, he is significantly better at everything, when he’s on he’s elite
 
Yes absolutely Sam Walsh exudes leadership form the first moment he wore the Navey Blue.
Our coaches too should be setting a good example and pushing for EH to be given a final opportunity to redeem his miscreant ways of the past and help himbecome a cohesive and productive team member. Wish him well.

It's an interesting one. You'd love for the incumbent captain to do the same, but as a parent I could absolutely understand Cripps not wanting to bring someone with Lij's issues/history into his family home with young kids around. Might be good for Lij, but as a parent it's a risk that you almost cannot responsibly take.
 
I've heard that Walsh is one of those speaking up to keep Lij. Even going so far as to offer him a room at his place.Shows the sign of a good leader there.

I know nothing about the EH situation and neither do I care too much, will trust the club to make that decision.

But I'm not so sure that Walsh's support for him shows the sign of a good leader. It does show the sign of a good friend but if his opinion differs from the majority of players and coaches he may not be the leader we want.

Just a counter thought based on nothing but a hypothetical.
 
I know nothing about the EH situation and neither do I care too much, will trust the club to make that decision.

But I'm not so sure that Walsh's support for him shows the sign of a good leader. It does show the sign of a good friend but if his opinion differs from the majority of players and coaches he may not be the leader we want.

Just a counter thought based on nothing but a hypothetical.
It’s a really good question u raise.
If Walsh is about to be named captain you would think his opinion carry’s significant weight, he’s about to lead the team, the easiest thing would be for him to cut the losses.

For him to back in EH could show he really see’s something that will benefit the team.

Could also be him being a good mate, I’d back Walsh to be looking at what he believes is the best thing for the club - will be interesting to see what happens
 
I know nothing about the EH situation and neither do I care too much, will trust the club to make that decision.

But I'm not so sure that Walsh's support for him shows the sign of a good leader. It does show the sign of a good friend but if his opinion differs from the majority of players and coaches he may not be the leader we want.

Just a counter thought based on nothing but a hypothetical.
Not saying Lij should be kept, but I wouldn't say disagreeing with the majority is the sign of a bad leader. More often its the opposite. Much easier going with the crowd, then challenging them.

If Walsh is pushing for Lij to be kept and is willing to do the hard yards, Id be taking him seriously.
 

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If Walsh is pushing for Lij to be kept and is willing to do the hard yards, Id be taking him seriously.
If you are another player observing this you would have your confidence built that your captain (if Walsh becomes that) has your back, He will fight for you!

It should make the players trust him and want to fight for their captain.
 
With the fresh beginning in 2026 ... Sam Walsh as Captain would be the go I reckon.
This would take the pressure off Crippa to lead the team out each week as Captain and give him some much needed time off during the season knowing that the team is in good hands.
Got my welcome back membership email yesterday. I don't know if this really points to anything future captaincy related but I thought it was interesting the graphic included Cripps and Weitering, but not Walsh.
 
Got my welcome back membership email yesterday. I don't know if this really points to anything future captaincy related but I thought it was interesting the graphic included Cripps and Weitering, but not Walsh.


Probably for the same reason that Charlie features in our 2026 Calendar.

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But we haven't replaced them with like for like have we. We haven't addressed our deficiencies from this season. Again you haven't answered the question while taking pot shots.

How have we improved after trade period.
We still have the same coach who has failed the past 4 years.
Are we expected to improve every single off season? What do you consider improvement? Sometimes a recalibration isn't an improvement in the short term, but is a stepping stone to being better in future.

It's also difficult to improve when 3 senior players leave at their peak or close to it.

We have done fairly well so far with the hand we were dealt. What we do through the draft period will also effect the result. Although draftees won't help in 2026 but may do so after that.
 
I agree. Jack left because of frustration. Culture was bad

However, Wright has come in, admitted to issues and is addressing them. Look at changes to coaching , development and our new HOF

I see significant changes happening. At the moment I couldn’t ask for anything more

As you said, time will tell, but things are definitely happening
I agree to an extent however I believe Jack left for other reasons as well that benefitted him and him only.
 
I know nothing about the EH situation and neither do I care too much, will trust the club to make that decision.

But I'm not so sure that Walsh's support for him shows the sign of a good leader. It does show the sign of a good friend but if his opinion differs from the majority of players and coaches he may not be the leader we want.

Just a counter thought based on nothing but a hypothetical.
I differ on this one with Walsh.

As a leader of Men and possibly Captain ... Walsh needs to take responsibility, control .. and be confident to back both himself and his players to get the job done.

If the Club is going to make Walsh Captain ... then they should also show Faith in him with the EH offer and allow him to wield his positive influence on the Players. Walsh needs and should be given that opportunity imo.

Carlton showing Faith in Sam may also come into play when the big offers for him are made next season...?
 
Not originally. Deals with Pies & Dogs were same as ours. We actually upped our offer. Then Saints came in with ridiculous deal. Then I believe it became about money

That St Kilda was always the plan from a long way out. The whole Pies and Dogs dealings was a charade so the deal with St Kilda didn't appear as nepotism. JSOS left for money as it was his last contract. That's fine and i totally understand, but don't tell me he went to St Kilda for anything more.
 
Indeed. He’s out there training and said through his manager that’s he’s in ripping nick.

Some team will get an opportunity to get a seriously talented AFL player for very little via train-on viewing, which we could have had under our support of EH vs offloading under contract (if we plan to follow through).

It seems crazy to me that he's 99% likely to be delisted. Whatever he did (I have no idea) wasn't bad enough to terminate his contract so why are we paying him out?

I really hope we can retain him. Easy to say when I don't know the details.

All I know is he's a walk up start to our best 22 and if we flick him he probably ends up at fricking Geelong for nothing and wins the brownlow somehow.
 
That's culture and leadership. Jack Silvagni is a player who wants to win at all costs. For him to jump ship confirms the club is in a massive hole and he couldn't see anything to indicate its changing anytime soon.
Or he just wanted the cash injection from
Papa.

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