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Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...


The Old Dark Navy's said:
Folks, this is the way things are here.

Posters are responsible for what they post. Moderators can not attest to the accuracy or otherwise of any rumour posted.

Moderators will intervene for a couple of reasons.

1. If a thread is threatening to be derailed because of a post.

2. If invested parties request the removal of material.

None of this draws a conclusion as to the accuracy or otherwise of the original post.

There is no need to further speculate. What will be will be.
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Also, you need to remember that this thread like all parts of this forum is bound by the rules of poster conduct. If you want to express skepticism towards a rumour that's fine, but having a crack at posters who are contributors to this forum is simply not on and will be acted upon.

Simply put, don't be a dick.

Thanks all!
 
I bleed Blue said:
Another club will pick up Hollands 100%. And they will get a bargain.

Bit like Stocker. Why would any club trade for him when they know we are going to delist him in a couple of weeks time.
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As he’s still contracted to us for one more year we need to break the contract costing us money. Nobody wanted to take on the contract in a weak pick return. I’m not sure how the contract situation works if he gets picked up as a DFA when technically he won’t be.
 
zeeCFC said:
What's difficult about it? He has problems with using substances that cause him to miss extended periods of the season either through being banned or not mentally/physically well enough to play.

Carlton of all clubs understands that every single list spot is an opportunity we can't let slip.
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Last season, almost half our list was taken up by a motley collection of below league average small forwards, at least three of whom we pulled in from the VFL either a week before, or during, the season.

Can hardly make the case that list spots are at a premium. There's something truly bizarre about the way we are managing Hollands.

He's schroedinger's footballer right now which is very very strange
 
zeeCFC said:
What's difficult about it? He has problems with using substances that cause him to miss extended periods of the season either through being banned or not mentally/physically well enough to play.

Carlton of all clubs understands that every single list spot is an opportunity we can't let slip.
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.......and you know all those facts to be exactly true do you.......how?
 

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Red_man2008 said:
As he’s still contracted to us for one more year we need to break the contract costing us money. Nobody wanted to take on the contract in a weak pick return. I’m not sure how the contract situation works if he gets picked up as a DFA when technically he won’t be.
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If we break the contract he becomes a DFA and eligible for a home elsewhere - think you’ll find it’ll be via SSP / train-on where the club can assess without the obligation they would have had in a trade (and also less money as he’ll be back at square one on the contract scale).
 
Dominator_7 said:
Aints fans going blue in the face trying to convince whoever can be bothered engaging with them, that Jack and all the ither B graders they lured across on ridiculous and unwarranted contracts didn’t come to them ‘for the cash’, but because ‘they believe in the project’
Riiiiiiiiight 🙄
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Regardless of our last 20 years, any Stk supporter pumping their chest or engaging in one upmanship with a Carlton supporter is like Dale Kerrigan saying, "suffer in your jocks" to Warren Buffett because he just won the meat tray raffle at the local pub
 

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DangerousD said:
SOS is obsessed with bringing in former 1st round picks to his teams, so I expect one of Phillips, Hollands or Hobbs to be at the Saints next year.
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He mostly does that with players he had drafted previously...
 
The Bighouse said:
If we break the contract he becomes a DFA and eligible for a home elsewhere - think you’ll find it’ll be via SSP / train-on where the club can assess without the obligation they would have had in a trade (and also less money as he’ll be back at square one on the contract scale).
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So does he get paid out and then earns another contract.
 

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gbatman said:
If you do not have the mental fortitude where someone like this effects your performance then the problem is not them it's you.

It's one player. If it was the club supporting this then that is a different story.

If any player thinks that Elijah Hollands and his behavior effects their behavior or performance then 100% that player lacks mental fortitude for AFL football or any level of football.

Imagine going into a grand final and one player on the list does what ever Elijah has done and some go to water and we lose because of this. That's weak.

I am sorry but I am sick of hearing about mentally weak players who lack resilience and can't perform because of pretty mundane external factors. This is why the draft age needs to be lifted.

I am happy to see him go, but I don't want the excuses from the others. It wreaks of "bigger than the club" mentality.

What I want to know, is what he has done, whatever that is, has that been accepted at clubs who have been more successful than us?
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I’ve only heard dribs and drabs over social media but it definitely looks like we will be letting him go which is a shame
 
TENACIOUS said:
No shit..

Why are the club allowing him to train with the boys. If he’s such a bad influence that they want to delist and pay him out.
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I think the club needs to release a certain amount to the public about what he has done.

Right now it just doesn't make sense. He was so bad yet his contract wasn't terminated with cause and he was allowed back into the club late last year and early this year. And early this year he's already back at the club.

How bad could it be? He's either out or he's not. Get on with it.
 
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