Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[djw1952]

What's difficult about it? He has problems with using substances that cause him to miss extended periods of the season either through being banned or not mentally/physically well enough to play.

Carlton of all clubs understands that every single list spot is an opportunity we can't let slip.

.......and you know all those facts to be exactly true do you.......how?

 

[TheReal99prelim]

Ok... apologies for annoying those ITK, but could I also get a PM about Elijah's infractions which has made his position at Carlton untenable

 

[The Bighouse]

As he’s still contracted to us for one more year we need to break the contract costing us money. Nobody wanted to take on the contract in a weak pick return. I’m not sure how the contract situation works if he gets picked up as a DFA when technically he won’t be.

If we break the contract he becomes a DFA and eligible for a home elsewhere - think you’ll find it’ll be via SSP / train-on where the club can assess without the obligation they would have had in a trade (and also less money as he’ll be back at square one on the contract scale).

 

[Thrawn]

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Even the surrounding cabinet looks cheap.

 

[TheReal99prelim]

Aints fans going blue in the face trying to convince whoever can be bothered engaging with them, that Jack and all the ither B graders they lured across on ridiculous and unwarranted contracts didn’t come to them ‘for the cash’, but because ‘they believe in the project’
Riiiiiiiiight

Regardless of our last 20 years, any Stk supporter pumping their chest or engaging in one upmanship with a Carlton supporter is like Dale Kerrigan saying, "suffer in your jocks" to Warren Buffett because he just won the meat tray raffle at the local pub

 

[ferrisb]

Similar size, similar HFF/mid role, similar Pendlebury-lite traits.

I just realised this could be the next industry super ad...

 

[Gabagool]

On the bright side, we have a possible replacement in Ison.

Similar size, similar HFF/mid role, similar Pendlebury-lite traits.

Fingers crossed.

But did he play basketball growing up?

 

[Thrawn]

I just realised this could be the next industry super ad...

We just need a couple of pears so we can truly compare the pear.

 

[Moon]

If we break the contract he becomes a DFA and eligible for a home elsewhere

Kardinia Park ... here I come...

No Charlie but here's a consolation prize ... how you lot like 'em ... cheap.

 

[womack]

But did he play basketball growing up?

Haha yes with my youngest ..very quick hands .. mercurial!

 

[ferrisb]

SOS is obsessed with bringing in former 1st round picks to his teams, so I expect one of Phillips, Hollands or Hobbs to be at the Saints next year.

He mostly does that with players he had drafted previously...

 

[GoBlues!]

On the bright side, we have a possible replacement in Ison.

Similar size, similar HFF/mid role, similar Pendlebury-lite traits.

Good point ferris.

I wonder if we’ll be saying - does Ison play like Pendlebury, or did Pendlebury play like Ison just like the Coke Zero and Coke comparison..

 

[Red_man2008]

If we break the contract he becomes a DFA and eligible for a home elsewhere - think you’ll find it’ll be via SSP / train-on where the club can assess without the obligation they would have had in a trade (and also less money as he’ll be back at square one on the contract scale).

So does he get paid out and then earns another contract.

 

[xDQ82x]

What are we waiting for then, xD?

I don't know sorry.

I try not to speculate just pass on what I hear.

But as we all know things change.

 

[My Hat]

I'd imagine the club would want to announce all delistings / contract non-renewals at the same time. So it wouldn't surprise me if decisions had been made on some but they were waiting to announce until decisions have been made on everyone.

 

[dumb]

i remember elijah's 3 goal game against essendon, and that mark running backwards arms outstretched. i knew we had a good'un then. not to be and maybe for the best, even elijah.

 

[RutherglenRambles]

If you do not have the mental fortitude where someone like this effects your performance then the problem is not them it's you.

It's one player. If it was the club supporting this then that is a different story.

If any player thinks that Elijah Hollands and his behavior effects their behavior or performance then 100% that player lacks mental fortitude for AFL football or any level of football.

Imagine going into a grand final and one player on the list does what ever Elijah has done and some go to water and we lose because of this. That's weak.

I am sorry but I am sick of hearing about mentally weak players who lack resilience and can't perform because of pretty mundane external factors. This is why the draft age needs to be lifted.

I am happy to see him go, but I don't want the excuses from the others. It wreaks of "bigger than the club" mentality.

What I want to know, is what he has done, whatever that is, has that been accepted at clubs who have been more successful than us?

I’ve only heard dribs and drabs over social media but it definitely looks like we will be letting him go which is a shame

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Confirmed today that there is zero percent chance that Elijah Hollands stays.

Wish they'd get on with it then.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

No shit..

Why are the club allowing him to train with the boys. If he’s such a bad influence that they want to delist and pay him out.

I think the club needs to release a certain amount to the public about what he has done.

Right now it just doesn't make sense. He was so bad yet his contract wasn't terminated with cause and he was allowed back into the club late last year and early this year. And early this year he's already back at the club.

How bad could it be? He's either out or he's not. Get on with it.

 

[WalshYouLegend]

I just realised this could be the next industry super ad...

Hehe, yeah, that guy you quoted is so funny . Let him know he should be a comedian.

 

[The Great Ian]

Wish they'd get on with it then.

PR dept need time to prepare the mutually agreed carefully worded statement for the website.

 

[TrueQldBlue]

Exactly what I mentioned a while back.

Sad end

Nothing official yet

 

[TrueQldBlue]

i remember elijah's 3 goal game against essendon, and that mark running backwards arms outstretched. i knew we had a good'un then. not to be and maybe for the best, even elijah.

It sounds like another Chris Yarran story all over again....waste of talent...

 

[slashin_velvet]

I think the club needs to release a certain amount to the public about what he has done.

Right now it just doesn't make sense. He was so bad yet his contract wasn't terminated with cause and he was allowed back into the club late last year and early this year. And early this year he's already back at the club.

How bad could it be? He's either out or he's not. Get on with it.

There could also be an element of cancelling his contract leading to penalties or cap/list impact, so need to come to a mutual agreement because we had options:
1) a trade where a new club takes on his contract
2) perhaps we retain him, and then move him to the equivalent of an injury roster to pick up an extra SSP
3) could we do the "move to the rookie list" strategy we've tried a few times with Betts etc

If no club wanted to pick him up for loose change in a trade, then we should try and renegotiate his contract, and agree that he moves onto a mental health long term injury roster (perhaps with authority from the AFL for him to play VFL only) and if he spends the full year without issue we can welcome him back in 2027

 

[katmanblue]

I try not to speculate just pass on what I hear

Where's the fun in that?