Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Robertio]

Tbh, I think Lij wants to stay at Carlton, and this is probably the safest way for him to do that. No chance of being drafted elsewhere and any train-on opportunities he can respond to under his own agency with no obligation.

Train on and be picked up as a SSP next off-season, putting all his eggs in the Carlton basket. I think Carlton have been fairly open on their luke-warm feelings towards Lij, at best, at this point. While everything he's said and done (indiscretions notwithstanding) have indicated he loves it here and wants to stay. So it's a little risky for him if we don't come to the party. But then I guess there's always SSP at other clubs or the Mid-season draft as a last resort should we still not want him in.

I think it's a "I want to play for Carlton" move more than it's a "I want to play AFL footy no matter where it is" move, if that makes sense.

Yep that's what i was thinking as well.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Love what mior said at the end of his interview on the club website.
‘Being explosive, dynamic and powerful’ is the message and how they want to train.

 

[agro]

On this auspicious day 50 years ago - the Prime Minister Gough Whitlam who couldn’t guarantee supply was replaced by avid Carlton supporter and number one ticket holder Malcolm Fraser.

If current Carlton Coach Michael Voss can’t guarantee finals by mid-season may also be replaced by one Josh Fraser

Josh Fraser

Age

44

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.4

4star

CL

2.5

4star

HO

11.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

2.8

3star

HO

8.6

5star

.

 

[ferrisb]

1990 GF, Wright and Millane vs Long and Anderson.

Was there. The best part of that day, was our VFL team be premiers.

Was not there, but surely the best part of the day was Essendon and Collingwood players beating the shite out of each other at quarter time?!?

 

[ferrisb]

why have finals? - go the european soccer route and just have minor premierships

supplemented by multiple meaningless cups... now thats a cash grab

Reckon we can win another Wizard Cup?!?

 

[ferrisb]

‘Being explosive, dynamic and powerful’ is the message and how they want to train.

Sounds like the Beef Vindaloo I had the other night...

 

[ctwenty1]

Reckon we can win another Wizard Cup?!?

winning 2 in 3 years is an underrrated achievement

 

[NTBlue]

Always top 4.

5th and 6th will definitely have an easier time now that 7th and 8th don’t get a week off anymore, but there will be times when 9th and 10th are going to win the wildcard game and then the EF. Imagine being a QF loser and your SF is against 9th or 10th instead of 5th-8th.

Finals have now become easier for every top 4 club to make the PF.

And a 7th placed side who might have won 5 or more H & A games during the season than the 10th placed side could end up playing finals instead.

 

[KJP7]

Love what mior said at the end of his interview on the club website.
‘Being explosive, dynamic and powerful’ is the message and how they want to train.

I'm not getting sucked into this one again. They got me with speed and power last off-season

 

[Monty1978]

Reckon the wild card round is fine but I reckon the AFL should have went down the NFL route where 1st and 2nd play the winners from 7th to 10th and it’s knock in all the weeks … none of the bs wild card then normal finals like we currently have … a team can play 3 times in 5 weeks if they make the granny

 

[Lace_Out]

On this auspicious day 50 years ago - the Prime Minister Gough Whitlam who couldn’t guarantee supply was replaced by avid Carlton supporter and number one ticket holder Malcolm Fraser.

If current Carlton Coach Michael Voss can’t guarantee finals by mid-season may also be replaced by one Josh Fraser.

Interesting.

Kinda makes sense with them brining Josh back to the club now. He's had an apprenticeship and would make a good interim coach at the very least, which would be a nice audition for someone you see value in that space.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Tbh, I think Lij wants to stay at Carlton, and this is probably the safest way for him to do that. No chance of being drafted elsewhere and any train-on opportunities he can respond to under his own agency with no obligation.

Train on and be picked up as a SSP end of offseason; putting all his eggs in the Carlton basket. I think Carlton have been fairly open on their luke-warm feelings towards Lij, at best, at this point. While everything he's said and done (indiscretions notwithstanding) have indicated he loves it here and wants to stay. So it's a little risky for him if we don't come to the party. But then I guess there's always SSP at other clubs or the Mid-season draft as a last resort should we still not want him in.

I think it's a "I want to play for Carlton" move more than it's a "I want to play AFL footy no matter where it is" move, if that makes sense.

My thoughts are he's presumably had some financial payout and his 'medical/psych' advice may be to stay at a known environment like Carlton, if they will offer you are spot, or take the year out to get yourself sorted and come back in 2027.

 

[pressurepoint]

Did Flynn Reily nominate for the draft and if not, how will the club get him on to our playing list ?

He did (as did many other VFL listed players).

W White and Binns also nominated.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

I'm not getting sucked into this one again. They got me with speed and power last off-season

Yeah u can preach power, speed, dynamic, exciting or whatever u want.
But you’ve gotta have the right type of players to execute what your preaching.
Last year, we preached power and speed, but didn’t quite have the right balance to play that style.

 

[SurreyBlue]

I support the Wildcard Round concept but it doesn't go far enough. It should include all 18 teams and be extended from 1 week to 23 weeks!

Don’t stress. The AFL will sell it as a huge success, teams 11 & 12 will be included in the next few years.

 

[BlueJet]

why have finals? - go the european soccer route and just have minor premierships

supplemented by multiple meaningless cups... now thats a cash grab

You're tongue-in-cheek but given the thumbsuckers at hq essentially lift these changes from other codes, it wouldn't completely if it were recommended.. but yay, change with no clear benefit to the sport or competition.
slow clap

 

[jj1978]

What would everyone prefer? Coming 5th and 6th and playing against a team that hasn’t had a rest in the first ‘real’ final. Or coming third or fourth and travelling interstate to play either a Brisbane or Adelaide? I actually think coming 5th or 6th is now a better option.

3rd or 4th has a chance to make an immediate prelim, and worst case with the second chance you get the home semi final which could be against an interstate side.

 

[jj1978]

I get the argument where losers of the two qualify finals might be disadvantaged somewhat as they’re very full on games. And then you have 5-6 playing teams who’ve had no rest and have slogged a game out already the week prior.

Perhaps afl need to consider the old 8 system.
1 v winner 7v10
2 v winner 8v9
3 v 6
4 v 5

2 highest ranked winners into prelim. 2 highest ranked losers double chance. Basically top 2 awarded with easier entry to prelim and guaranteed double chance, and 3 and 4 statistically have high chance of double chance if they lose but not guaranteed.

 

[circusdevil]

I don't mind the wildcard 'round' but counting it as a finals win is garbage!

 

[Worm4]

Don’t stress. The AFL will sell it as a huge success, teams 11 & 12 will be included in the next few years.

As soon as Collingwood fall off their own cliff, the AFL will introduce this new concept of an 19 team finals campaign just to keep the $$$ coming in , nothing surer

 

[norway blue]

leave the game alone. But they won’t.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

leave the game alone. But they won’t.

Change does 2 things for the AFL;

1. Justifies their bloated salaries,
2. Makes money to pay their bloated salaries.

 

[ferrisb]

As soon as Collingwood fall off their own cliff, the AFL will introduce this new concept of an 19 team finals campaign just to keep the $$$ coming in , nothing surer

Nek minnut Nick Daicos is awarded brownlow votes in finals matches...

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

Nek minnut Nick Daicos is awarded brownlow votes in finals matches...

Plays in losing makey upppy final spot from 10th, subbed out 1st quarter.

Wins player of finals series.

 

[Dramoth]

Don’t stress. The AFL will sell it as a huge success, teams 11 & 12 will be included in the next few years.

The AFL adds another 13 teams to bring the league up to 32 teams. Week 1, every team plays, week 2, all the losing teams play, week 3 all the winning teams from the first 2 weeks play… rinse and repeat until there is just 1 winning team, and that’s our premiers.

That’s about as logical as having a ****ed up wild card round. **** off with that shit. We need to get the w***ers on the commission out of there. They’re letting the TV people and the gambling partners dictate what’s good for the game.