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birdmanptr

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Time to bring these players in.After watching us go in side foward 50 18 more times than Brisbane there was so many chances for a crumber to at least have a chance at kicking a goal.

Bode:Proven crumber and goal kicker
Ladhams:Also a proven goal kicker
Watts:Maybe not against the saints but after that Carlton and Essendon at home put him in for 2 weeks and lets see,if he goes ok keep playing him if not back to the sanfl and learn a bit more.He is no use in the sanfl any more time to put the toe in and test the water.
 
this looks like a lonely thread so jack will double its number of posts. I disagree with ladhams he is one of my most disliked players. Should be delisted as soon as possible. Watts i watched the game on the tv yesterday, and they said it was his best game ever for them. That concerned me. He will not be able to hold down CHF yet, but either a pocket or HHF will be ok. He looked surprisingly agile yesterday, infact all of his goals apart from a mark, we're from the ball off the ground, which is good, although i would prefer if he took more contested marks to score as this is what we need. Bode i can go eitherway on, probably is playing for his life and he obviously has more than a bruised shoulder if he has missed 4-5 wks. Atleast he tries though.
 
Watts should get a run, play him a CHF. It's where he plays naturally, give the kid a run, at least he puts in unlike that sack of flowers Hentschel. The boy has the potential of a pansy.
 
outback jack said:
Bode i can go eitherway on, probably is playing for his life and he obviously has more than a bruised shoulder if he has missed 4-5 wks. Atleast he tries though.
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They're probably not going to kill him. That would be a bit far. :p
 

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Quite clearly our forward line isn't working.

1. We need a forward capable of a mark - enter M Stevens or Watts.

2. We need a crumber who can snag a goal - enter Ladhams.

Bode's disposal will never be up to AFL standard.
 
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What a joke giving up pick 12 for bode :mad:
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I reckon he goes ok gets in and under tackles well and kicks a goal if his disposal aint up to standard then what does burton have on our selectors and who are the photos of.
 
birdmanptr said:
I reckon he goes ok gets in and under tackles well and kicks a goal if his disposal aint up to standard then what does burton have on our selectors and who are the photos of.
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Burton is a matchwinner & has been won games for us - when has Bode done the same?
 

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outback jack said:
i'm not sure ladhams deserves anything....
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cmon get off his back, he surely deserves a spot after good form in the sanfl and our forward line struggling, its worth a try.
 
jmorg1 said:
Burton just lost a game for us!
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He made a stuff up and let me tell you he is not the only one that did. He is not the only player who made a mistake that got the goal for the opposition or cost us a goal.

To pin this loss entirely on Burton as some are doing is plain wrong. There were more than 2 players that were screwing up but for some reason only Burton and Perrie cop the flack because they are the punching bags on this board :rolleyes:
 
Stiffy_18 said:
He made a stuff up and let me tell you he is not the only one that did. He is not the only player who made a mistake that got the goal for the opposition or cost us a goal.

To pin this loss entirely on Burton as some are doing is plain wrong. There were more than 2 players that were screwing up but for some reason only Burton and Perrie cop the flack because they are the punching bags on this board :rolleyes:
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Disagree,
We often say that a player won the game off his own boot, or turned the game.
Surely the inverse can also be true?
IMHO Burton cost us the game with his 2 stuff ups in front of goal, let alone his other clangers.
Remember his great game against west coast? And your comments at the time? His effort was the same but the outcome entirely different.
If he can get the kudos when good he must also get the bagging when bad.

PS: Do you ever think he could become a consistent player? I mean adding his good and bad games together and divide by 2, IMHO that’s the Burton we need.
 
jc67 said:
Disagree,
We often say that a player won the game off his own boot, or turned the game.
Surely the inverse can also be true?
IMHO Burton cost us the game with his 2 stuff ups in front of goal, let alone his other clangers.
Remember his great game against west coast? And your comments at the time? His effort was the same but the outcome entirely different.
If he can get the kudos when good he must also get the bagging when bad.

PS: Do you ever think he could become a consistent player? I mean adding his good and bad games together and divide by 2, IMHO that’s the Burton we need.
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The insident everyone is raving on about happened in the 3rd quarter. We still had a quarter and a half to win the game in the end we weren't good enough. Its not as if Burton's non-handball to Welsh sucked the life out of us because we still attacked as well as we did prior to that point and we still scored as "well" as we did prir to that point.

To blame Burton for the loss is wrong. Where was plenty of time left on the clock to win it but we weren't good enough and Burton wasn't the sole reason why we lost.

And yes I do think Burton can be a consistent player. He has been in the past. The reason he is up and down is because he keeps getting injured and he doesn't come up well after injuries. He takes time to return to his best.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Burton wasn't the sole reason why we lost.
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True he wasn't.
BUT, he had definite opportunity to win the game and folded. And should wear the brunt of it for that.
I say again, if a player can be solely responsible for a win then surely a player can be blamed for a loss.


I don’t ever remember Brett being consistent.
Maybe solid in 2 or 3 consecutive games but he has always been erratic.
 
jc67 said:
True he wasn't.
BUT, he had definite opportunity to win the game and folded. And should wear the brunt of it for that.
I say again, if a player can be solely responsible for a win then surely a player can be blamed for a loss.


I don’t ever remember Brett being consistent.
Maybe solid in 2 or 3 consecutive games but he has always been erratic.
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I think it was 2003 when Mick Malthouse had him in his AA side as a wingman. For a 12 game strach in the second half of the year he was consistently getting 30 odd touches and averagin a goal per game.

If thats not consistent form I am not sure what is ;)

And yes he was injured for the first half of the year. I think he tore his ankle ligaments and missed some 7-8 weeks.
 

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Stiffy_18 said:
I think it was 2003 when Mick Malthouse had him in his AA side as a wingman. For a 12 game strach in the second half of the year he was consistently getting 30 odd touches and averagin a goal per game.

If thats not consistent form I am not sure what is ;)

And yes he was injured for the first half of the year. I think he tore his ankle ligaments and missed some 7-8 weeks.
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Concede that point :o
I missed a lot of footy in 03 due to business commitments.
 
what burton did was selfish...and things like that do change matches. players lose confidence in each other. as for perrie he has been on the list since 1998..and hasnt even played 100 games!! in his player profile it said in 2005 theyre looking at his strong marking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! does that include dropping uncontested chest marks?!!
 
vacekadelaide said:
what burton did was selfish...
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I am not arguing that. Yes it was selfish but had he kicked it would anyone complain????? I don't think so. Yes he is a selfish player but being selfish doesn't make you a bad player
vacekadelaide said:
and things like that do change matches. players lose confidence in each other.
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Yeah it didn't because we didn't drop our bundle after that which says players didn't lose confidence in each other. We still attacked, won the ball but just couldn't kick enough goals to win in the end. I would agree with you if the team fell away when Burton did that but the team just went on playing like they played up to that point. As I said Burton made that blunder in the 3rd quarter. We still had well over a quarter to kick a winning score and we couldn't do it. To blame Burton for the loss is being really picky.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
I think it was 2003 when Mick Malthouse had him in his AA side as a wingman. For a 12 game strach in the second half of the year he was consistently getting 30 odd touches and averagin a goal per game.

If thats not consistent form I am not sure what is ;)

And yes he was injured for the first half of the year. I think he tore his ankle ligaments and missed some 7-8 weeks.
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did he have j cloke as CHB>? No way the birdman is AA status
 
Stiffy_18 said:
The insident everyone is raving on about happened in the 3rd quarter. We still had a quarter and a half to win the game in the end we weren't good enough. Its not as if Burton's non-handball to Welsh sucked the life out of us because we still attacked as well as we did prior to that point and we still scored as "well" as we did prir to that point.

To blame Burton for the loss is wrong. Where was plenty of time left on the clock to win it but we weren't good enough and Burton wasn't the sole reason why we lost.

And yes I do think Burton can be a consistent player. He has been in the past. The reason he is up and down is because he keeps getting injured and he doesn't come up well after injuries. He takes time to return to his best.
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stiffy is unfortunately right for once :) But seriously there is no way the birdman or Perrie can be blamed for the loss, it is NC's fault.

And the birdman would become more consistent if he was managed better imo. Firstly, play him forward and secondly get some basic do's and donts that cannot be broken into him and thirdly put 5-10 kg on him as he is far too light.
 

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