Roast Boooooooo - Hawks Fans at it again

[bungee]

Spare me. The catagorise the "General Dawk fan" as being represented by Bigfooty posters is laughable. It's like observing the fanatics at a Leyton Hewitt tennis match as being representative of the average Australian sports fan. The vast majority of Hawthorn supporters are the same as the vast majority of supporters of Sydney or any other club. There is no requirement for fairmindeness or even average intelligence to be a footy supporter. Our club has plenty of dimwit supporters as does yours. I have plenty of friends who follow Hawthorn who think the booing of Goodes is bloody ridiculous, and downright embarrassing. But thankfully the people who do it are well and truly in the minority.

1. That makes me feel dirty
2. We only have three dimwit supporters (four if you count Kenny)

 

[andrew coombs]

You should join your fellow supporters and publish a book on excuses.

If I do I'll make sure to check the archives of Bigfooty on the Swans page after Sydney's inglorious exit from the 2013 finals series. Plenty of excuse making instructional lessons to be found there.

 

[MickyG]

... The vast majority of Hawthorn supporters are the same as the vast majority of supporters of Sydney or any other club. There is no requirement for fairmindeness or even average intelligence to be a footy supporter. Our club has plenty of dimwit supporters as does yours. I have plenty of friends who follow Hawthorn who think the booing of Goodes is bloody ridiculous, and downright embarrassing. But thankfully the people who do it are well and truly in the minority.

What I don't understand is what a miserable bunch they were after winning the GF. I had good reason to be totally hammered and sad as. What was their excuse?

 

[andrew coombs]

What I don't understand is what a miserable bunch they were after winning the GF. I had good reason to be totally hammered and sad as. What was their excuse?

Again, who is "they"? I don't know anyone who is miserable about last year. Some people are bad winners, totally lacking in grace during the good times. Yes, a small number of Hawthorn fans fit this description. As have fans of other clubs during their periods of success. It is just wrong to assume that arrogant keyboard warriors are representative of anyone other than themselves.

 

[DrEvil_]

What I don't understand is what a miserable bunch they were after winning the GF. I had good reason to be totally hammered and sad as. What was their excuse?

I honestly don't know any miserable Hawthorn supporter after the GF.

 

[Troystenvic]

I honestly don't know any miserable Hawthorn supporter after the GF.

Just a couple of narcissists

 

[MickyG]

I honestly don't know any miserable Hawthorn supporter after the GF.

I was describing the people leaving the ground after the game. I could not find a smile on any of them!

 

[bungee]

I was describing the people leaving the ground after the game. I could not find a smile on any of them!

Perhaps they went hoping for a contest ?

Oh, my bad

 

[Lakeside Swan]

Hodge was unfit and underdone in the 2012 GF. He was clearly frustrated by his inability to impose himself on that game. If he did Infact try and lay it on thick for a free or two he joined a multitude of players who have done the same under those circumstances. If you didn't know this you do now.

Haha. Unbelievable. Your making excuses for your 2012 GF loss and your using being underdone as an excuse? Half our team was injured. As for him "laying it on for a free or two" most of the Hawks side were preoccupied staging for frees rather than pursuing the ball and in fact were being awarded them by the pathetic umpires (re the unbalanced free Kick count). Hawthorn we repeatedly running into semi stationary Swans players and getting frees for them.

 

[Wayne Swan]

Just read a few pages on the Hawks forum. Gee there are some seriously mentally deficient folk over there. And don't they think their wee and poos don't stink! Be proud of what your club has achieved but don't gloat about it and spend your whole life putting down other teams. Geelong supporters for all their outstanding success always seemed fair and balanced.

Looking forward to when Hawthorn finally drift to mid table and seeing what their supporters are writing then. Sorry but they are a very feral bunch on the whole.

 

[kelpie_X]

Although it may come as a surprise to you, I don't actually have the ability to dictate an entire supporter bases actions.

Where would we be if Martin Luther King had that attitude?

I'm not saying that the majority who boo are racists, just pointing out that it can only take one person to make a change

 

[kelpie_X]

I honestly don't know any miserable Hawthorn supporter after the GF.

he/she means miserable as in "Total campaigners".

 

[Shiv]

1. That makes me feel dirty
2. We only have three dimwit supporters (four if you count Kenny)

What's wrong with kenny? I just though he was an old dude having some random fun lol

 

[Brown n Gold]

We've been booing Franklin also since he left... but strangely no comment about that!

 

[kelpie_X]

We've been booing Franklin also since he left... but strangely no comment about that!

I'll comment.... GET OVER IT YOU ****ING CRY BABIES!

 

[Brown n Gold]

I'll comment.... GET OVER IT YOU ******* CRY BABIES!

Same could be said for Goodes...

 

[kelpie_X]

Same could be said for Goodes...

Oh look, it's one of those racists

 

[andrew coombs]

Haha. Unbelievable. Your making excuses for your 2012 GF loss and your using being underdone as an excuse? Half our team was injured. As for him "laying it on for a free or two" most of the Hawks side were preoccupied staging for frees rather than pursuing the ball and in fact were being awarded them by the pathetic umpires (re the unbalanced free Kick count). Hawthorn we repeatedly running into semi stationary Swans players and getting frees for them.

Classic example of reading a post and slanting it towards what you want it to say. I never offered any excuses for the GF loss at all. Given how badly Hawthorn played for most of that game they had no right to win it and didn't. Luke hodge was accused of staging for free kicks in that game and I said that if that was true it was almost certainly a result of his frustration at being unable to impose himself on the game at all. 2012 was a disasterous year for Hodge on the injury front. He missed 13 games for the year including the Prelim final. He declared himself ok to go in the GF so tough luck but my point was that often when players are physically unable to produce their best they try and cut a few corners by fooling the umpires. We see it all the time with older players, sometimes just with out of form players. Matthew Lloyd recken s he didn't even realise he had started doing it later in his career until he watched himself on TV and cringed. The Swans were better on that day for longer periods and deserved their victory. I have never said otherwise.

Your other statement about other Hawthorn players is just tripe. The Sydney plan was to physically attack the Hawks and it worked. When a side lays over 100 tackles in a game of football they are usually going to be on the wrong end of an unbalanced free kick count.

 

[andrew coombs]

I was describing the people leaving the ground after the game. I could not find a smile on any of them!

I understand what you are saying. The fact is that due to the lop sided nature of the game the Hawthorn fans had come to a realisation that the club was going to win the Premiership a good two hours or so before you saw them leaving the MCG. I was happy for sure as I walked out but nowhere near as excited as I was in 2008 when they came with a rush for an unexpected victory. In that game I wasent prepared to call the game in my own mind until 10 minutes or so before the end and when it was all over celebrated hard into the night. Last year was a sense of relief followed by a desire to go home and watch the replay to see how the hell it all happened. Had we won the game in the manner of Sydney's triumph in 2012 ( game won,lost and won again in time on of last quarter) I and many others would have been in the state of euphoria that you may have expected to see post match. The other thing is ( and I know how this sounds) for many Hawk fans last year was another of many premierships that we have seen. I have attended 11 Hawthorn Grand Finals and sen 8 premierships. Most of us are fully aware how fortunate we are to have been to be in this position. Forgive me if it sounds arrogant ( trying hard not to be) but the reaction to winning has to be different under those circumstances.

 

[Lakeside Swan]

I understand what you are saying. The fact is that due to the lop sided nature of the game the Hawthorn fans had come to a realisation that the club was going to win the Premiership a good two hours or so before you saw them leaving the MCG. I was happy for sure as I walked out but nowhere near as excited as I was in 2008 when they came with a rush for an unexpected victory. In that game I wasent prepared to call the game in my own mind until 10 minutes or so before the end and when it was all over celebrated hard into the night. Last year was a sense of relief followed by a desire to go home and watch the replay to see how the hell it all happened. Had we won the game in the manner of Sydney's triumph in 2012 ( game won,lost and won again in time on of last quarter) I and many others would have been in the state of euphoria that you may have expected to see post match. The other thing is ( and I know how this sounds) for many Hawk fans last year was another of many premierships that we have seen. I have attended 11 Hawthorn Grand Finals and sen 8 premierships. Most of us are fully aware how fortunate we are to have been to be in this position. Forgive me if it sounds arrogant ( trying hard not to be) but the reaction to winning has to be different under those circumstances.

I was at the GF with a few Hawk mates. I think because of Hawthorns success in the 80 and more recently and the number of premierships you have, it doesn't mean as much as it would to us and it would mean even more to Bulldogs and Saints supporters.

 

[robbieando]

We've been booing Franklin also since he left... but strangely no comment about that!

For the life of me I can't remember what Franklin has ever done to Hawks fans to deserve the boos's

If you can't tell the difference between booing of Franklin and the booing of Goodes then you just don't get it and are happy to protect the racists in you support.

 

[Kummerspeck]

We've been booing Franklin also since he left... but strangely no comment about that!

Then why haven't you been booing Goodes from start to finish constantly since the indiscretions thrown up as excuses, most of which were a few years ago?

 

[Brown n Gold]

For the life of me I can't remember what Franklin has ever done to Hawks fans to deserve the boos's

If you can't tell the difference between booing of Franklin and the booing of Goodes then you just don't get it and are happy to protect the racists in you support.

Left the club it's that simple.. Shaun Burgoyne gets booed just as loud against Port.

In short re Goodes it is not about his message it's the way he has gone about it that has polarised fans. Now I am going to leave before you accuse me of being part of the KKK or hit me with some kind of unwarranted bigfooty suspension... Hope it is a good game tonight Hawks by 20

 

[Kummerspeck]

In short re Goodes it is not about his message it's the way he has gone about it that has polarised fans.

Let me guess; you think the way Long and Winmar confronted racism was better.

 

[andrew coombs]

For the life of me I can't remember what Franklin has ever done to Hawks fans to deserve the boos's

If you can't tell the difference between booing of Franklin and the booing of Goodes then you just don't get it and are happy to protect the racists in you support.

You can't really be serious in regard to the booing of Franklin. This kind of reaction to star is players who walk out on their club has been happening since Ron Barrrasi left the Demons for Carlton back in 1965. For those who feel that booing at AFL players is their right as an AFL fan the jeering of a bloke the status of Franklin is to be expected. Andrew Ireland's puzzling decision to make public the fact that Hawthorns most popular modern icon sought out a move to Sydney after 2012 and had his manager negotiate a deal during his last season at the club while persisting with the line that he had made no decision ( we all knew that was BS) left a bad taste in he mouths of many, including many in the inner sanctum of the HFC. Ireland was clearly frustrated by the backlash that the Franklin deal caused but as an experienced administrator should have known that it was going to cause a fair bit of angst. Perhaps he didn't and dosent care.Who knows? The fact remains however that the reaction to Franklin from some Hawthorn fans is not in any way unusual. I hear people say that Geelong fans didn't boo Gary Ablett when he took his GC suns to skilled to play the cats. Rest assured, They bloody well would have had he left them to take up a contract one of their main competitors for the premiership.