MacStradbroke
Norm Smith Medallist
- Jul 19, 2015
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- 27,444
- AFL Club
- Geelong
That’s cool, we all see things differently.Not the VARCOE I saw. Disagree completely.
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That’s cool, we all see things differently.Not the VARCOE I saw. Disagree completely.
Yes he was a pussy first 3 or 4 years hell Corey was even a pussy the first 3 yearsThat’s cool, we all see things differently.
I don't think he shirked physical contact, more so that he just did not have the body for it. Some players (think Ablett, Chapman) are so strong through the core that nothing knocks them off the footy. Varcoe never had that body.Yes he was a pussy first 3 or 4 years hell Corey was even a pussy the first 3 years
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And his shoulders were pretty rooted early on in his career weren’t they?I don't think he shirked physical contact, more so that he just did not have the body for it. Some players (think Ablett, Chapman) are so strong through the core that nothing knocks them off the footy. Varcoe never had that body.
This comment is just dumb, sorry to be blunt but hes easily the least physically developed player on our list and it was one of the main reasons he went undrafted originally.So? His body is far more advanced then a second year draftee. More like a fifth year.
Sure, but if you're not kicking goals as a forward, at least finding the ball a bit more would be nice. You can't have both Dalhaus and Close in the same forward line with so little on offer offensively. At some point, that hurts you because defenders can pay them a little less respect.Close has never been a natural goal kicker in his life people expecting that are going to continue to be disappointed.
Face palm.This comment is just dumb, sorry to be blunt but hes easily the least physically developed player on our list and it was one of the main reasons he went undrafted originally.
Face palm.
it’s his age that makes him physically develop ffs.
23 year olds are stronger and faster then their 19 year old versions all else equal.
and if at 23 he is still the least physically developed on the list (not something I agree with) then it provides another reason why he has little talent and limited ceiling.
Face palm.
it’s his age that makes him physically develop ffs.
23 year olds are stronger and faster then their 19 year old versions all else equal.
and if at 23 he is still the least physically developed on the list (not something I agree with) then it provides another reason why he has little talent and limited ceiling.
In a side with Corey Enright, Matthew Scarlett and Cameron Ling, I call extreme bullshit.wtf? He was the best defensive player in the club. At the age of 19.
It was in reference to foward tackling pressureIn a side with Corey Enright, Matthew Scarlett and Cameron Ling, I call extreme bullshit.
that doesn’t change one bit of my point. He may be the lightest. But he would of been even lighter as an 18 year old. And if he is still lighter at 23 then all our 18 year olds then that just shows up a massive weakness. he didn’t start playing football 2 years ago.Since you ignored it last time - as per information from the club, Close is the lightest weight on the playing list, with Holmes even having more muscle on his bones. And maybe they means Close is one of those who's not necessarily going to put on much weight or muscle, but it'll be good to see how he goes after another preseason in the gym
It's not so much that he's 23 but rather that he's a second year rookie that is still developing - it's not like he's had 5 years of senior football under his belt, so stop judging him as if he does
And on your last paragraph, the fact he's still developing completely contradicts your last point - to start with he's shown himself to have plenty of talent in the role his playing which is that of a linking forward working up & down the ground (sorry to disappoint, but he's not in the team as a goal sneak)
And as for "limited ceiling", that may be true if he came in as a fully developed, senior player without room for growth and that's not what you expect from a first time for - the fact he's still developing, still got work to do in the gym etc shows that he's ceiling not limited and that there's room for continued improvement; we see improvement from season 1 to season 2, so let's see how he goes in season 3 and beyond
Sure, but if you're not kicking goals as a forward, at least finding the ball a bit more would be nice. You can't have both Dalhaus and Close in the same forward line with so little on offer offensively. At some point, that hurts you because defenders can pay them a little less respect.
Maybe he didn't do weight training or see the inside of a gym until he joined Geelongthat doesn’t change one bit of my point. He may be the lightest. But he would of been even lighter as an 18 year old. And if he is still lighter at 23 then all our 18 year olds then that just shows up a massive weakness. he didn’t start playing football 2 years ago.
Players in lower leagues still do effing weight training.
Just bookmark calling bullshit any time this clown is involved at this point, laughable shit.In a side with Corey Enright, Matthew Scarlett and Cameron Ling, I call extreme bullshit.
It was in reference to foward tackling pressure
wtf? He was the best defensive player in the club. At the age of 19.
talk about writing history. He was a tackling beast in his first couple of seasons. His highest tackling season per game in his whole career was his second season. Many suggestEd the only reason he was in the side was cos of his foward tackling pressure and little else. His weakness in his early years was finding the ball.I don't think he shirked physical contact, more so that he just did not have the body for it. Some players (think Ablett, Chapman) are so strong through the core that nothing knocks them off the footy. Varcoe never had that body.
Why would I talk about a player who played solely as a foward pocket in his early years as a great defender? only an idiot would assume the post wasnt about foward defensive pressure.Except there's nothing in your about forward tackling pressure - seems an easy out on your part after the fact
probably Carrying puppy fat.Close is actually lighter now than he was in the U/18 Champs, he got tested at 178/74 and is now 181/71, says all that needs to be said right there.
Close is actually lighter now than he was in the U/18 Champs, he got tested at 178/74 and is now 181/71, says all that needs to be said right there.