Brad Crouch

[Sanders]

And once again Sanders - that sounds like pig-headedness talking. Why does your opinion mean so much over anyone elses? Is it because you are right and everyone else is wrong?

whilst we are at it were all of the following pigheaded this year too:

• AFLPA MVP - 3rd
• All Australian - starting Rover
• Brownlow - 6th
• Crows B&F

So much stubborness huh?

 

[MRB37]

It all depends on what type of star player you have. You can have a star player that ball hogs, and tries to do everything on their own to the detriment of the rest of the team, or you can have a star player thant gets others involved, while performing their role. Watching Dangerfield play, he is more the former, than the latter.

One example, for all the praise the commentary team were giving danger for his efforts in the last quarter of the Adel v Bulldogs final, he ******* butchered the ball with stupid kicks, or tried to do everything himself.

An obvious answer for Danger would be the Hawthorn game during in Round 12 where he repeatedly left his assignment to go ball hunting in the middle and it cost us multiple goals, only to be dragged off and have Campo go nuts on him on the phone because he wasn't playing how he was instructed to.

We obviously lose out on individual talent in Danger, absolutely cannot deny that, but I think/hope that with the introduction of some more speed into the middle we'll now see a bit more of a robust and multi-dimensional midfield, rather than the reliance on Danger/Thommo to dig it out and boot it forwards.

 

[Ozzie]

And the "Top 5" thing is so subjective. Surely you can think of 5 midfielders you would rather have in your team than Dangerfield?

I'm looking forward to seeing a different team this year - coz what we have had before (including PD) has not cut it. I want to see a different look, a different focus.

Me too! Hope Campo gets a rocket from Don to change the midfield scheme.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ooooh dearie take off the tiara and don't be so precious, I just said that I thought that opinion was wrong.

Then probably best to use the phrase, in my opinion or imo, as opposed to language which talks down at other posters & inferring as factual.

Btw, I agree danger is a top 5 player.@

 

[adelaidecrows]

Me too! Hope Campo gets a rocket from Don to change the midfield scheme.

Why would he get a rocket? We don't have Dangerfield anymore and his style of play. So it will have to change. Don will have studied the list and what Dangerfield had brought to the table and the way we played as a result.. He would have devised a new system that Campo will have to carry out. But talking about giving campo a rocket????? thats delusional and uncalled for.

 

[Swooping Crow]

A fit and firing Brad Crouch will offset the loss of Dangerfield as that gun player in the midfield we so desperately need. However, Brad is returning from a serious injury and we can't be solely focusing on him as our replacement for Dangerfield.

Collectively our midfield must lift and this is the golden opportunity for players such as Cam Ellis-Yolmen to assert his place in the side. Matt Crouch can only get better and playing alongside his brother may take him to another level. The best junior cricket and footy I played was when my brother was in my team. I recall hearing a story about the Crouch brothers having a punch up whilst watching a game of footy, which is further confirmation they are competitive beasts.

I can picture Dixon taking a cheap shot at one of the Crouch boys and the other brother retaliating in a fierce way! We have lacked that mongrel that successful premiership sides like Hawthorn, Geelong and Brisbane possessed.

The Crouch brothers leading from the front could be the physical inspiration our fellow team members need.

 

[Ozzie]

Why would he get a rocket? We don't have Dangerfield anymore and his style of play. So it will have to change. Don will have studied the list and what Dangerfield had brought to the table and the way we played as a result.. He would have devised a new system that Campo will have to carry out. But talking about giving campo a rocket????? thats delusional and uncalled for.

Rubbish! Until Campo became caretaker coach everyman and his dog on this board complained incessantly about Campo's midfield schemes. He finally showed some balls and called Voldemort on his play in one-quarter and suddenly he is a changed man. Now what you have suggested is the way I hope we go but until I see it happen I will not be holding my breath. Remember Campo was the man who never ever changed things up and we were all bitching about it. A rocket is called for to make sure he understands what Don wants will happen.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Rubbish! Until Campo became caretaker coach everyman and his dog on this board complained incessantly about Campo's midfield schemes. He finally showed some balls and called Voldemort on his play in one-quarter and suddenly he is a changed man. Now what you have suggested is the way I hope we go but until I see it happen I will not be holding my breath. Remember Campo was the man who never ever changed things up and we were all bitching about it. A rocket is called for to make sure he understands what Don wants will happen.

seriously?????? you seem to think Campo has a greater role then he actually does. Last time I checked his is a line coach, line coaches do the coaches bidding and prepare the midfield to play the style of play the HEAD COACH wants them to play. So anything we saw under Phil was what Phil wanted.

 

[Ozzie]

seriously?????? you seem to think Campo has a greater role then he actually does. Last time I checked his is a line coach, line coaches do the coaches bidding and prepare the midfield to play the style of play the HEAD COACH wants them to play. So anything we saw under Phil was what Phil wanted.

He was the midfield coach with ROK under his tutelage. So his piss poor efforts with Sando and NC don't count. Gee you have a short memory. I think I get it now though PW coached every position and the rest just sat there waiting to be told what to do. Right got it now!

 

[adelaidecrows]

He was the midfield coach with ROK under his tutelage. So his piss poor efforts with Sando and NC don't count. Gee you have a short memory. I think I get it now though PW coached every position and the rest just sat there waiting to be told what to do. Right got it now!

Don't be daft! If Campo actually did as poorer job as you are making out he wouldn't still be there and would have become head coach after Phil. Your like a conga line of people on here that seem to target long serving employees of the club and pinpoint all the blame on their shoulders for all the clubs wrong doings and bad player/list management.

 

[adelaidecrows]

He was the midfield coach with ROK under his tutelage. So his piss poor efforts with Sando and NC don't count. Gee you have a short memory. I think I get it now though PW coached every position and the rest just sat there waiting to be told what to do. Right got it now!

In all seriousness, what do you actually think a line coach does compared to the head coach?

 

[Sanders]

Rubbish! Until Campo became caretaker coach everyman and his dog on this board complained incessantly about Campo's midfield schemes.

That's not right. Some people had it in for campo, but there are always some who hold all sorts of views on any given subject. That doesn't make a consensus on revision

 

[1970crow]

Me too!

Don't be daft! If Campo actually did as poorer job as you are making out he wouldn't still be there and would have become head coach after Phil. Your like a conga line of people on here that seem to target long serving employees of the club and pinpoint all the blame on their shoulders for all the clubs wrong doings and bad player/list management.

Are the coaches not responsible for player management? Was it not Campo who rushed Dmac into the team for finals?

 

[rocket18]

. Your like a conga line of people on here that seem to target long serving employees of the club and pinpoint all the blame on their shoulders for all the clubs wrong doings and bad player/list management.

Huh, isn't that the logical thing to do?

 

[Scrotes2000]

We obviously lose out on individual talent in Danger, absolutely cannot deny that, but I think/hope that with the introduction of some more speed into the middle we'll now see a bit more of a robust and multi-dimensional midfield, rather than the reliance on Danger/Thommo to dig it out and boot it forwards.

Got my fingers and toes crossed. Preparing myself for a tough year though. I think the transition was needed but it'll take some time for us to get it all to gel.

I don't know if his personality was that great eithier. Perfect example with that Hawthorn game. For someone who's looked at as so important at the club that's such a poor example to set and gives a peek at his mentality. Got to trust the systems you've worked on and your teammates - even when you're losing.

I think personality is underrated by most fans on the scale of importance. Can have all the talent in the world but get the wrong mix of personalities and it can poison the well.

(99.9 cents a litre...about time)

 

[adelaidecrows]

Huh, isn't that the logical thing to do?

In theory, yes but the disclaimer is that you have to understand actually what their job is before you go ahead and label people incompetent. To many smart operators at the top who don't suffer fools. In a sport where winning is everything, if you are not seen to be doing a good job you are moved on. Complaining about Campo's midfield coaching is insane if you actually do not know the role of a line coach and I suspect it differs club to club. I do not know so I don't bitch about Campo. Same with Noble. People who seem to target Noble also seem to not know his true role and what he is employed to do. Again I do not know so I leave him alone. Its like people who bitch about teachers, but only see part of their job.

 

[baldandbroke]

Ooooh dearie take off the tiara and don't be so precious, I just said that I thought that opinion was wrong.

No you didn't. You said it was bitterness talking.

I understand that you value Dangerfield differently than I do, but have you ever been involved with a team that did better without an individual that was rated highly outside - and everyone inside knew better? I have. That is what I see with PD. If you want to see us as less of a team because of an individual ... No probs, but I don't.

 

[fabs33]

Rubbish! Until Campo became caretaker coach everyman and his dog on this board complained incessantly about Campo's midfield schemes. He finally showed some balls and called Voldemort on his play in one-quarter and suddenly he is a changed man. Now what you have suggested is the way I hope we go but until I see it happen I will not be holding my breath. Remember Campo was the man who never ever changed things up and we were all bitching about it. A rocket is called for to make sure he understands what Don wants will happen.

Not everyone.

Posted this when he was caretaker coach;

I always had mixed feelings regarding Camporeale, on the one hand I wasn't a big fan of how we operated around stoppages but on the other hand I was always mindful that of all our assistant coaches he seemed to be the one who received the most praise from the players. I guess I'm open to the possibility of him being head coach, although if that were to happen I would prefer Worsfold stayed in his current role.

And to back it up, in 2013 in response to the following;

Players regularly single out Campo for praise. I can't remember that ever having been the case for Clarke.

I posted this;

Probably because few of our rucks have played well enough to warrant being asked. Seems like a nice guy but I'm not a fan of his results, as for Campo I'm undecided.

There's a lot of variety on here in terms of opinions, there wouldn't be so many arguments if there wasn't.

 

[Danger in Texas]

And once again Sanders - that sounds like pig-headedness talking. Why does your opinion mean so much over anyone elses? Is it because you are right and everyone else is wrong?

To be fair to Sanders how is what he said pig-headedness? From what I could tell he was just giving his opinion on how he rates PD compared to those guys, and was also assuming the reason why you'd put PD below those guys.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not everyone.

Posted this when he was caretaker coach;



And to back it up, in 2013 in response to the following;



I posted this;



There's a lot of variety on here in terms of opinion@s, there wouldn't be so many arguments if there wasn't.

Campo showed he more capable coaching than many other appointments made over the last few years.

 

[fabs33]

Campo showed he more capable coaching than many other appointments made over the last few years.

I will say this for him, I preferred the way we played under him more than I did Sando. Although that might be just me not remembering our good wins with Sando very well.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I will say this for him, I preferred the way we played under him more than I did Sando. Although that might be just me not remembering our good wins with Sando very well.

Also campo didn't have Bailey holding his hand!

 

[Red mist]

Also campo didn't have Bailey holding his hand!

2012 season has a lot to answer for. The spike was just that I reckon. The players were freed up. Bailey was an awesome inclusion but I don't think every decision In the box was influenced by him as this post may imply.

 

[baldandbroke]

To be fair to Sanders how is what he said pig-headedness? From what I could tell he was just giving his opinion on how he rates PD compared to those guys, and was also assuming the reason why you'd put PD below those guys.

To me there was a clear implication of "rubbish that is what you think - you are just bitter". That is pigheaded IMO. Assuming that you know what I think or why, ignoring my post that clearly stated where I was coming from. Doesn't matter - I know where my opinion of PD comes from, and I don't need to justify it to Sanders.

Back to Brad.

 

[Ozzie]

Also campo didn't have Bailey holding his hand!

Kane, he had Worsfold holding his hand.
I just don't like him as a coach, it's as simple as that.