Bring back the Mankad

[likka]

Some of the running in the T20 WC has been akin to cheating IMO.

By the time the ball is delivered at the end of an innings the non strike batsman is at least a metre out of his crease and running full clip.

This is simply not fair to the bowling team without the option of the bowler running him out.

Time for the anti-mankad law to be overturned for all forms of single day cricket.

 

[Ill Chicken]

Ha. The mankad was never used to begin with. Ridiculous. I've been run out under the new rule (technically it should not have been out) and there is nothing stopping a fielding team attempting it.

 

[ubolt]

the rule still exists, it's just been changed because the game is a batsman's game and bowlers aren't allowed to get batsman out anymore.

you're right though, it should be changed back to what it was for 50 years or so. the current way of being allowed to take off once the bowler reaches his delivery stride is just WRONG!

 

[whats_at_stake]

I think they should change it can only leave after the bowler releases the bowl.

 

[Ill Chicken]

That's what the law is.

 

[whats_at_stake]

That's what the law is.

I thought it was they can run during the delivery stride?

 

[King Elvis]

I thought the bowler couldn't mankad unless he'd completed his delivery motion (revolution of his bowling arm)?

 

[Ill Chicken]

The law changed to where the bowler can only run-out a batsmen prior to entering his delivery stride. Revolution of the arm is no longer required.

 

[Gazza_11]

It's incredible how many kids try this in club cricket.

I believe the rule now is that you have to change the ball from your bowling hand to your opposite hand and then hit the stumps.

 

[ubolt]

not quite

the rule is now you must run the batsman out before you enter your delivery stride

 

[joshhem]

Which is a very strange rule, let's face it. The play is not 'alive' unless a ball has been bowled. So this rule now makes it that live play occurs when a bowler starts his run-up.

This change doesn't really make sense to me. I don't undertand what it adds to the game in any shape or form...

 

[Ill Chicken]

Ian Chappell is a tool. He was harping on about it last night and calling Hussey a cheat basically when Hussey was still running to the letter of the law as shown in the replays where he was not leaving the crease until the bowler had let go of the ball. The guy is up there as one of the worst commentators in the business.

 

[King Elvis]

He's been blowing up about the change to the rule all tournament; I didn't see the example you did, but I think he was commenting on a couple of neutrals playing and he said the same thing - disgraceful, stupid rule change which effectively allowed the non-striker to cheat.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

I remember quite a few years ago a bloke just wouldn't stay in his crease. I noticed in my follow through he was a long way down, and mentioned to my mid-off to have a look. Told me he was way out of his crease, so next ball, I ran up, stopped....and kindly suggested he return to his crease.

Bowled the next ball, and he was just as far down the wicket, so as I walked past I asked the umpire (quite loudly so he could here) what the rules where with 'mankading'.

Walk back to my mark, run in and go through the action (as per umpire's instruction), stop and the batsman is 3-4m out of his crease and almost running. He turns around and mouths off at me, as I again invite him to stay in his crease. I inform both the umpire and the batsman that should he do it again, I'll run him out.

First ball of the next over, he's at the non-strikers end, and again is miles out of his crease, this time before I've even arrived at the crease. So I complete the action, take the bails off and suggest he might like to reconsider the way in which he approaches the game as he leaves.

He was suspended for some period for smashing down BOTH sets of stumps, screaming obscenities at the umpires, me, his captain, etc - and then smashed his bat on the fence (comically left holding the handle).

Despite being warned on FOUR occassions, not to leave the crease before I bowled, apparently I was the cheat.

 

[Marklar_33]

I thought the bowler couldn't mankad unless he'd completed his delivery motion (revolution of his bowling arm)?

This clearly needed to be changed though. When I am at the non-strikers end, I generally leave my crease at the moment of release, which is totally legal. If a bowler picks up that Im doing this, there is nothing stopping them from holding onto the ball and collecting the stumps, even though I wouldnt have left my crease until past the normal point of release...

Which is a very strange rule, let's face it. The play is not 'alive' unless a ball has been bowled. So this rule now makes it that live play occurs when a bowler starts his run-up.

This change doesn't really make sense to me. I don't undertand what it adds to the game in any shape or form...

I guess thats why you can run them out...they shouldnt be running while the ball is dead

 

[ubolt]

Law 23.4 Ball Ceases to be Dead


The ball ceases to be dead - that is, comes into play - when the bowler starts his run up, or if he has no run up, his bowling action

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

So if the bowler drops the ball during his run up.....that's now a live delivery and can be dealt with?

 

[ubolt]

nope - that's a dead ball

Law 23.3 Umpire Calling and Signalling dead ball

23.3 b (vii) The umpire shall call and signal dead ball when the bowler drops the ball accidentally before delivery