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So play him at CHB
Correct as that's where he plays but there have been suggestions that he should play Fullback as we will get more rebound than Dawson gives us. Hookers value is at CHB and would help with rebound we aren't getting from that position and our flankers at present as we can't get the ball out of our defense to our forwards.
 
Club's rudderless!!
If they've got that sort of money available they why aren't they paying the spuds more to play better??o_O:oops:
Mate we have a salary cap and that's all we can spend o the total player group and we can have as much as we want to in the bank but that has no bearing on the level of salary cap with is set by the AFL.
 

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Mate we have a salary cap and that's all we can spend o the total player group and we can have as much as we want to in the bank but that has no bearing on the level of salary cap with is set by the AFL.

Well said. We have a great core of players under 25. We just need to build around them.
 
Really ? Well considering your on the ball or claim to be tell me how many full backs are on $600K or more per annum. By the way according to the AFL site Steele Sidebottom who is a match winner wich Hooker isn't had his contract extended for 5 yrs for total of $3Million.
I dunno, who cares. He's a high quality player that will really help our team out and 600k isn't that much for a very good one these days..
 
"The Fist" will have a remuneration adjustment after 150 games??o_O
$550-600 wouldn't you say Dan??:$
I am unaware of any provisions in the collective bargaining agreement in respect to increases in remuneration by appointment of game milestones.I would think Dawss might be on somewhere between $300k -$400k In my view but I don't have any specific knowledge in that regard. Fyfe IMO wouldn't be on more than $650K PA but watch out for his next contract where he will be on about $1.2.to $1.5m if not struck down by injury and is still in good form.
 
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I am unaware of any provisions in the collective bargaining agreement in respect to increases in remuneration by appointment of number of game milestones. In my view Fyfe wouldn't be in more than $650K PA but out for his next contract where he will be on over $1M if notvstruck down by injury and us still in good form.


Someone on here I think if was @Carnethedockers asked RTB at the barber shop they both go to about Hooker and he reported that Ross has indicated Hooker wanted to stay in Melbourne.

With the money your talking then what do you think Fyfe's next contract will be for? $1.5m per annum ? making him the highest paid player in the League?
The salary cap might rise $600,000 a year (which is less than double the current rate) with a new deal being bashed out so if Nathan's next contract is long enough it could well average that much. If he is signed for seven years with a lot of money at the end I mean.
 
The salary cap might rise $600,000 a year (which is less than double the current rate) with a new deal being bashed out so if Nathan's next contract is long enough it could well average that much. If he is signed for seven years with a lot of money at the end I mean.
I don't disagree with what your saying but most if not all contracts being extended will be for extra money wich will soak up some of the additional annual slary cap increase
 
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I don't have a problem signing Hooker but if he is to be played at Full back he isn't worth $600K as I said . Name a fullback on that sort of money.
Harry Taylor at Geelong is on that but he is CHB. Nathan bock was on $750,000 a year when he joined the suns. So was Phil Davis when he joined GWS.
 

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Feel like we have been here before WITH EVERY KPP PLAYER WE HAVE BEEN AFTER. Hooker will not be in purple next year. He will be at the Hawks no question, he's home in Melbourne.
 
That's easy to say when you can lure Brian Lake, Josh Gibson, Jack Gunston, David Hale, Ben Mcevoy, Shaun Burgoyne to you club..
Who needs draft picks!
Hawks still used draft picks in trades for those players. None of them were free agent signings. They were specifically targeted for our needs. None of them were shopping themselves about. McEvoy was given away by St Kilda but the others weren't happy at their old clubs. The Hawks did their homework and pounced. But we still had to make a fair trade and give up 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.

Frawley is only free agent we've signed, but we've lost a few, too.
 
If the AFL introduced a kilometres travelled/season equalisation initiative,it would immediately make our recruiting more efficient.
 
Hawks still used draft picks in trades for those players. None of them were free agent signings. They were specifically targeted for our needs. None of them were shopping themselves about. McEvoy was given away by St Kilda but the others weren't happy at their old clubs. The Hawks did their homework and pounced. But we still had to make a fair trade and give up 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.

Frawley is only free agent we've signed, but we've lost a few, too.
I understand that, but in hind sight, I think it's fair to say you paid unders for most of them. Plus, being a big Melbourne club, meant players wanted to play there.
 
Really ? Well considering your on the ball or claim to be tell me how many full backs are on $600K or more per annum. By the way according to the AFL site Steele Sidebottom who is a match winner wich Hooker isn't had his contract extended for 5 yrs for total of $3Million.

Pigeon-holing someone as a "full back" is not the way to think about. Think about it as the #1 KPD that roams around and plays where required in the defensive half. The top level KPD are all easily worth more than 600K on the open market if they are shopping themselves around. How much would you pay to have a 28 year old McPharlin, Rance, Taylor, Lake, etc.?

Bringing up Sidebottom doesn't really strengthen your point. He's not really a match winner. He's a decent player that might be around the #40-50 mark if you were ranking midfielders. Hooker is far more valuable than Sidebottom.

Anyway, we're not going to get Hooker by the sounds of it, so you don't have to worry about Freo blowing their budget on him.
 
I don't have a problem signing Hooker but if he is to be played at Full back he isn't worth $600K as I said . Name a fullback on that sort of money.

McPharlin wouldn't have far off that in his prime surely (especially after adjusting for inflation of the salary cap).
 

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That's a pretty sweet strawman you're building Danny, but you're off the mark IMO. Key backs can certainly be worth 600K a year, particularly in this day and age. For one, Jacob Weitering will be around the mark in potentially as soon as in the next 3-4 years.

Alfonz has summed it up pretty well, but just remember teams were lining up to offer James freaking Frawley up to 600K a year just last season. To be blunt, James Frawley makes Cale Hooker look like Stephen Silvagni..
 
This thread should be gone , no point to discuss anymore.
 

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