Cam Rayner

[danster168]

No you don't and yes it does make sense.
You can still play / compete in an "elite sport", just not be very successful, you may not be at the "elite" level but that was NOT specified, just that the sport was elite. Many competitors at the Olympics are in this category.

eg I have competed in an Olympic sport (elite type of sport ?) at applicable national comps (elite level ?) for which honour I qualified, to become a member of the official national squad/team for international events and the Olympics (elite level ?). So is that "elite sport" enough ?

Yet I do NOT consider that I was elite. Mainly because I was absolutely outclassed and well beaten each time .
Therefore I think I am justified in saying that I played / competed in an "elite sport" without being "elite". QED.

Which demonstrates that your analysis and understanding on this is as poor as the rest of your analysis in this thread has been.

if you made a national squad for something than yes, thats clearly elite. Or a state squad is elite to me.

so what we're arguing on is the definition of elite. its like saying Beau McCreery for example isnt elite because he's not an elite footballer despite being elite enough to get drafted and be a regular afl player.

 

[Whatamark]

if you made a national squad for something than yes, thats clearly elite. Or a state squad is elite to me.

so what we're arguing on is the definition of elite. its like saying Beau McCreery for example isnt elite because he's not an elite footballer despite being elite enough to get drafted and be a regular afl player.

Indeed, the level of "eliteness" was not specified. Always levels within levels and details within details. Which is I guess my point and what I alluded too and correspondingly also why your stance on Cam Rayner is not correct, regardless of us one eyed Lions fans.

Micro analysing stats is not always the best interpretation of a player's contributions.

 

[My Tilly]

That's "AFL Best Young Player" Mannagh to you.

Tell you this much, I'd rather have a bloke who spent his entire life fighting to get just one shot at senior footy all the while raising a family, working a 9-5 job versus a kid who has been pampered too all the way up until young adulthood.

Rayner wouldn't know how pay for his mobile phone bill let alone realizing how privileged he is.

Mannagh will do what is needed in the upcoming final.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

That's "AFL Best Young Player" Mannagh to you.

‘Young’ ha ha won’t be around in 4 years. If we doing titles you’re comparing him too All Australian squad member and premiership player Cam Rayner.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Tell you this much, I'd rather have a bloke who spent his entire life fighting to get just one shot at senior footy all the while raising a family, working a 9-5 job versus a kid who has been pampered too all the way up until young adulthood.

Rayner wouldn't know how pay for his mobile phone bill let alone realizing how privileged he is.

Mannagh will do what is needed in the upcoming final.

He grew up in the western suburbs. ‘Pampered’, so because Mannagh was too shit to get drafted at 18 that makes him better does it? My god you’re off your head. Go and wash the cat suit.

 

[Mr Meow]

‘Young’ ha ha won’t be around in 4 years. If we doing titles you’re comparing him too All Australian squad member and premiership player Cam Rayner.

28 is the new 18. Very exciting to see what young Mannagh achieves over the next decade.

 

[My Tilly]

He grew up in the western suburbs. ‘Pampered’, so because Mannagh was too shit to get drafted at 18 that makes him better does it? My god you’re off your head. Go and wash the cat suit.

Rayner was a junior footy prodigy. He had scouts wiping his ass after every game.

I couldn't give a damn how shit Mannagh was 10 years ago. Completely irrelevant to today's topic.
I have already tried explain why I'm happy not having a flashy player like Cam in our current team but you are now mocking Mannagh despite the fact he's actually playing at a level which equals your golden boy.

 

[Whatamark]

Tell you this much, I'd rather have a bloke who spent his entire life fighting to get just one shot at senior footy all the while raising a family, working a 9-5 job versus a kid who has been pampered too all the way up until young adulthood.

Rayner wouldn't know how pay for his mobile phone bill let alone realizing how privileged he is.

Mannagh will do what is needed in the upcoming final.

What tripe. Of course you have undertaken a thorough psychological assessment of their personalities as you personally know both of them so well.

Or perhaps actually you are just making a lousy judgement call based purely on your feelings and perceptions of their careers?

Mannagh may indeed do better than last year and do what is needed, but then, so may Rayner.

 

[Mr Meow]

It's so bizarre that everyone in this thread has started talking about young Shaun Mannagh.

There seems to be a genuine buzz among the Lions faithful regarding the promising kid.

 

[PerthBoy86]

He's like a smaller DeGoey or Stringer (although maybe they're a similar size, I've met DeGoey and he's not as big as I thought, about 188cm), can go missing but can break the game open. Was one of the points of difference last finals series and should be in this.

 

[mighty_lions]

Tell you this much, I'd rather have a bloke who spent his entire life fighting to get just one shot at senior footy all the while raising a family, working a 9-5 job versus a kid who has been pampered too all the way up until young adulthood.

Rayner wouldn't know how pay for his mobile phone bill let alone realizing how privileged he is.

Mannagh will do what is needed in the upcoming final.

like he did in the prelim were he burnt team mates and butchered the footy??? hes a potato

 

[Happy_Neale]

Rayner was a junior footy prodigy. He had scouts wiping his ass after every game.

I couldn't give a damn how shit Mannagh was 10 years ago. Completely irrelevant to today's topic.
I have already tried explain why I'm happy not having a flashy player like Cam in our current team but you are now mocking Mannagh despite the fact he's actually playing at a level which equals your golden boy.

Bailey Smith is just about the most flamboyant personality in Australian sports right now. Where does he play again?

 

[mighty_lions]

It's so bizarre that everyone in this thread has started talking about young Shaun Mannagh.

There seems to be a genuine buzz among the Lions faithful regarding the promising kid.

are you stupid? you were the person who started talking about mannagh no one had mentioned him until you said he was the "platinum version"

5,688 posts and no one had mentioned shaun mannagh the VFL superstar

Rayner’s a decent player. The platinum version is Shaun Mannagh, but Rayner would be a handy back up.

so embarassing

 

[Orange crush]

Great to see he was rewarded last night

 

[Mr Meow]

are you stupid? you were the person who started talking about mannagh no one had mentioned him until you said he was the "platinum version"

5,688 posts and no one had mentioned shaun mannagh the VFL superstar

so embarassing

For the last time, this is a Cam Rayner thread. I don't know why all of a sudden Lions supporters are so obsessed with Shaun "The Kid" Mannagh. He's not for sale!

 

[Mr Meow]

Bailey Smith is just about the most flamboyant personality in Australian sports right now. Where does he play again?

This is a Cam Rayner thread. How it has turned into a mass toasting of Geelong players, I do not know. Can we get back on track?

 

[mighty_lions]

This is a Cam Rayner thread. How it has turned into a mass toasting of Geelong players, I do not know. Can we get back on track?

you brought the superstar up you must want to discuss shaun mannagh in the cam Rayner thread, im unsure why???

We can discuss his last final performance if you like of burning team mates and butchering the footy? but if you want to talk about Rayner we can discus his match winning goal on the left from 50

 

[Mr Meow]

you brought the superstar up you must want to discuss shaun mannagh in the cam Rayner thread, im unsure why???

We can discuss his last final performance if you like of burning team mates and butchering the footy? but if you want to talk about Rayner we can discus his match winning goal on the left from 50

There's only so many times we can talk about young Mannagh in this thread before it gets boring. If you want his autograph, I'll see what I can do. It is meant to be a Cam Rayner thread though - just in case you forgot.

 

[mighty_lions]

There's only so many times we can talk about young Mannagh in this thread before it gets boring. If you want his autograph, I'll see what I can do. It is meant to be a Cam Rayner thread though - just in case you forgot.

No no you want to talk about him, im not sure I could get his autograph ive never been to a vfl game and neither has Cam

Rayner’s a decent player. The platinum version is Shaun Mannagh, but Rayner would be a handy back up.

 

[Mr Meow]

No no you want to talk about him, im not sure I could get his autograph ive never been to a vfl game and neither has Cam

We're going to have to make you a Shaun Mannagh thread. I get it, you adore him. He's a great young player. Please get back on topic for this thread though.

 

[mighty_lions]

We're going to have to make you a Shaun Mannagh thread. I get it, you adore him. He's a great young player. Please get back on topic for this thread though.

That sounds great but you would have to put it in the VFL forum though, im unsure why you brought up a VFL player in the Cam Rayner thread, you like him I get it everyone has there favourite vfl footballers

 

[mighty_lions]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/cameronrayner/

 

[M Malice]

Rayner was a junior footy prodigy. He had scouts wiping his ass after every game.

Ahhh! Groom of the Stool, those were the days.

 

[Happy_Neale]

This is a Cam Rayner thread. How it has turned into a mass toasting of Geelong players, I do not know. Can we get back on track?

Merely pointing out you do have the ‘flashy’ player that you so despise on your team

 

[Mr Meow]

Merely pointing out you do have the ‘flashy’ player that you so despise on your team

I despise them do I? News to me! We have other players than Smith and Mannagh too. Cameron, Dangerfield, Miers, Stengle. Do we really have to toast each and every one of them in a Cam Rayner thread though? I would argue it isn't the place to do it.