Cameron White fans only Thread

[Tambaran]

He said in the media after his 100 that he wanted to bowl more. I recommend he doesn't, since he stopped trying to convince us his slop was worthwhile, he has batted much better in ODIs.

 

[Blue Dimension]

For those suggesting that Cameron White doesn't bowl himself - he has completely changed his action and is working hard on it in the nets. He's now coming from wide of the crease to create more angle with hope that it will spin away. He bowled against the Bulls in a Ford Ranger cup game in early December and looked a bit all over the place.

There's no doubt that he's continuing to work on his bowling, but it's a work in progress and will take some time.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

For those suggesting that Cameron White doesn't bowl himself - he has completely changed his action and is working hard on it in the nets. He's now coming from wide of the crease to create more angle with hope that it will spin away. He bowled against the Bulls in a Ford Ranger cup game in early December and looked a bit all over the place.

There's no doubt that he's continuing to work on his bowling, but it's a work in progress and will take some time.

I rate that if true!!

however my concern is he couldn't land a ball consistenly with his nude straight-breaks - how is he going to land them if he can learn to put side-spin on the ball.

 

[aussie1st]

Its all about his action, he can move around the crease all he likes but that won't change the fact he can't turn it. I hope his new action allows for some turn as his accuracy was decent enough with his nude spinners.

His technique is dodgy no question about it but he continues to make runs at the highest level without getting out to it and he has an FC average of 42 so its not like his poor technique has been brutally exposed.

 

[Blue Dimension]

I rate that if true!!

however my concern is he couldn't land a ball consistenly with his nude straight-breaks - how is he going to land them if he can learn to put side-spin on the ball.

He was having difficulty in landing the ball consistently but he did get a couple to grip and turn which was nice to see.

 

[Cudi]

He has bowled himself a lot more in shield cricket this year since he has changed his action. The last two matches he bowled about 25 overs and picked up a couple of wickets. The main problem with his bowling is he has no confidence in it. But with his good recent form his confidence sky high and now I think it would be a good chance to give him a bowl. It's worth giving him 3 to 5 overs in the next ODI.

Just saw this article on cricinfo:

http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvpak09/content/story/445780.html

"I've done a little bit for Victoria, I've done a little bit in four-day cricket," he said in the Australian. "I didn't bowl at all in the Twenty20s and not much in one-day cricket. If I get in the position to get a bowl [for Australia] I would love to, but at this stage I am just working on it in the nets and we'll see how it goes.

"I understand my role the way I am going at the moment, we've got plenty of bowling options. I am ready to bowl if required, but it doesn't seem as if I am needed." In 49 ODIs he has 12 wickets at 28.75 and an economy rate of almost 6.5 runs an over.

 

[Tambaran]

He has bowled himself a lot more in shield cricket this year since he has changed his action. The last two matches he bowled about 25 overs and picked up a couple of wickets. The main problem with his bowling is he has no confidence in it. But with his good recent form his confidence sky high and now I think it would be a good chance to give him a bowl. It's worth giving me 3 to 5 overs in the next ODI.

Just saw this article on cricinfo:

http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvpak09/content/story/445780.html

Hi Cam

 

[Tambaran]

Good example today of why White doesn't have temperament nor technique for Tests at this point.

Cracked a tantrum over a few balls keeping low, lost concentration and then played an awful attempted slog which he didn't follow through on and threw away his wicket.

When things aren't going his way he loses his sense. Not what you need in Tests, especially when your technique already has quite a few holes.

 

[Spikey]

If the 'tantrum' was over taking the powerplay than he was probably right. 34th over, so 'new' ball. Perfect time for it...

 

[Tambaran]

If the 'tantrum' was over taking the powerplay than he was probably right. 34th over, so 'new' ball. Perfect time for it...

He's a junior batsman. If he's cracking a tantie because Ponting is not doing what he wants, he needs a serious attitude adjustment.

 

[Wally Carter]

He's a junior batsman. If he's cracking a tantie because Ponting is not doing what he wants, he needs a serious attitude adjustment.

He's also a better tactician than Ponting.

A very nice 44 today in trying conditions.

This kid is cemented in the limited overs team, now for the test team.

 

[Tambaran]

He's also a better tactician than Ponting.

He's not captain yet, and shouldn't be acting like one.

A very nice 44 today in trying conditions.

This kid is cemented in the limited overs team, now for the test team.

Judging by his temperament and technique, as I've said, he has a ways to go yet.

Not technically sound enough for Test cricket, as his mediocre Shield history proves.

 

[Heisenberg_]

He's not captain yet, and shouldn't be acting like one.



Judging by his temperament and technique, as I've said, he has a ways to go yet.

Not technically sound enough for Test cricket, as his mediocre Shield history proves.

Mediocre?
LOL get a clue ********, compare his shield record with the SA guns Ferguson and Klinger and call it mediocre
Did he root your missus or something, thats the only possible justification for the constant spew you dribble about him

 

[Wally Carter]

Judging by his temperament and technique, as I've said, he has a ways to go yet.

Not technically sound enough for Test cricket, as his mediocre Shield history proves.

Steve Waugh wasn't technically sound enough for test cricket either, yet he managed a decent career based on four shots and hard discipline.

I see similarities with White.

 

[Wally Carter]

Mediocre?
LOL get a clue ********, compare his shield record with the SA guns Ferguson and Klinger and call it mediocre
Did he root your missus or something, thats the only possible justification for the constant spew you dribble about him

Yeah, the bloke does seem to be taking this personal. White has improved out of sight in the last 18 months and you don't make 15 first class tons and 30 first class 50's if you are a dud.

In fact, can anyone do a breakdown of Whites first class results in the last 18 months?

 

[Spikey]

and you don't make 15 first class tons and 30 first class 50's if you are a dud.

Playing on Taunton helps tbh

For Victoria since 04/05 (Can we put that as the season he stopped being mainly a bowler and became mainly a batsman?)

04/05 16 innings 1 not outs 465 runs 1 ton
05/06 18 innings 2 not outs 482 runs
06/07 12 innings 1 not out 437 runs 1 ton
07/08 17 innings 2 not out 748 runs 1 ton
08/09 8 innings 0 not outs 462 2 tons
09/10 7 innings 2 not outs 230 runs

Just gonna check the 07/08 stats again, 748 runs for one ton seems...unrealistic. Probably misread it.

EDIT 1 ton, 5 50's. May as well check the other seasons and make sure nothing is wrong. This is just shield btw

 

[Wally Carter]

Playing on Taunton helps tbh

For Victoria since 04/05 (Can we put that as the season he stopped being mainly a bowler and became mainly a batsman?)

04/05 16 innings 1 not outs 465 runs 1 ton
05/06 18 innings 2 not outs 482 runs
06/07 12 innings 1 not out 437 runs 1 ton
07/08 17 innings 2 not out 748 runs 1 ton
08/09 8 innings 0 not outs 462 2 tons
09/10 7 innings 2 not outs 230 runs

Just gonna check the 07/08 stats again, 748 runs for one ton seems...unrealistic. Probably misread it.

Thanks Spikey.

07/08 - 49.86
08/09 - 57.75
09/10 - 46 combined with his form in the ODI

Averaging 51.02 since late 07. That's pretty solid form.

Steve Waughs first class batting average: 51.94

 

[Tambaran]

Only one season above 50, and not many 100s. Not good enoguh to jump the queue yet - still an ODI specialist with his loose technique.

Sorry mate, that's reality.

 

[Tambaran]

Mediocre?
LOL get a clue ********, compare his shield record with the SA guns Ferguson and Klinger and call it mediocre

Yep, Ferguson does have a mediocre Shield record. Klinger doesn't anymore.

Both are far and away more technically sound than White though.

Did he root your missus or something, thats the only possible justification for the constant spew you dribble about him

Sorry for the facts. He's technically loose and not yet good enough for the Test side. May be in future, but not now.

 

[Tambaran]

Steve Waugh wasn't technically sound enough for test cricket either, yet he managed a decent career based on four shots and hard discipline.

I see similarities with White.

Steve Waugh? Cameron White?

Guess this sort of farcical comparison demonstrates how far out of it Cam White is as the moment.

Waugh was a hugely disciplined, largely defensive player. White is nothing like Waugh.

 

[danielnajdek]

Couldn't be any worse then North surely. At least he can catch in the slips. Plus he wouldn't be smashing in tests if he got a shot anyway. I actually think he has been quite patient this series and building his innings quite well. Allthough his dismissal today was a bit disappointing.

That was good timing

 

[Jono B]

I would prefer a player that consistantly contributes to the feast and famine we are getting from North.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Yep, Ferguson does have a mediocre Shield record. Klinger doesn't anymore.

Both are far and away more technically sound than White though.



Sorry for the facts. He's technically loose and not yet good enough for the Test side. May be in future, but not now.

Klingers record is still mediocre compared to Whites.
Sorry for the facts, but thats the truth

 

[Tambaran]

Klingers record is still mediocre compared to Whites.

You talking about Shield or F/C? Take out White's Div 2 fun and it's a bit uglier.

Klinger has been far and away better than White in FC and DOD for the last two seasons anyway.

Sorry for the facts, but thats the truth

Actual facts are above.

Are you White's boyfriend? Because you can't seem to accept any criticism of him.

Has certainly cemented his ODI spot, but even the most biased fan like yourself can admit his technique is loose and he is not ready for Test cricket...

 

[Heisenberg_]

Take out his county stints and he still has a better record then Klinger.

Its not that hard to admit you are wrong