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Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft? - Part 2
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Sonny Hayes
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Nope you need to have some quality in the team at all times, even when rebuilding. Just completely sucking the soul out of the club and committing to some 17 years olds to save the club is suicide.
we need you g talent and clearly need to hit the draft. We absolutely don’t need to have a fire sale on any players we hve.
Sonny Hayes
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Don’t even get me started on our game plan... watching our wins is painful at the moment let alone our losses.
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Couldn’t care less..I call things as I see them and always have...every single post I have written in this thread since it started has been 100% correct..I just laugh it’s taken people like you and 95% of our other supporters so long to finally see how pathetic our team is now and how bad our list is. The next 3-5 years is going to be like the Schwab years. Brace yourself.
Sonny Hayes
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Nah that’s stupid, he is not a battler. He is a 3rd year player having a down year.
Yes comparing the two selected teams today.
Large gap in age and experience.
And with a team that experienced and that old you really need to be at the top of your game as opposed to.....
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Not acceptable. No other clubs young players get that free pass. Weitering was crucified in his 2nd year, Walsh currently called overrated.
Sonny Hayes
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You are always miserable and pessimistic about this club. You were bound to get it right eventually. If you are genuinely a Hawk fan you need to give up the sport because no one should be THAT negative about a club that has had as much success as you have seen.
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1 possession for a whole game is pretty abysmal though.
Lewis is going to have to figure out how to still have some impact when Hawthorn are down, because it is going to happen quite a bit over the next few years.
Lewis is going to have to figure out how to still have some impact when Hawthorn are down, because it is going to happen quite a bit over the next few years.
Sonny Hayes
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I’m not giving him a free pass? I’m calling him out for having a shit year... I’m just not going to write off a player who has shown more in his first 2 and a half years than most have.
How far away is Patton ?
‘except you said that 3 years ago?
You forgot to use the word "sadly" to preface your view that tough times are ahead
Sonny Hayes
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It is more than just gameplay with him at the moment, his hands were seriously strong last year. Currently can’t catch a cold (luckily).
his attack on the footy was fierce and he had a bit of arrogance about him which you need in key forwards.
Currently looks timid and lost, not tackling and not getting to contests.
mumfod smashed him unnecessarily in a congested pack
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Patton isn’t making us better. We have midfielders that can’t kick...he needs silver service. Once the ball hits the deck, he’s irrelevant.
We needed Mitch Lewis to really come on this season. I’m not excusing his performance today which was arguably the worst game anyone has played this season, but he’s had a few injuries this season and has had no continuity. Second half of last season he showed great potential.
Tim O’Brien is the other one that’s just killed us. He’s 26 and just hasn’t become the player Clarko would have hoped.
Missing out on Tom Lynch was an absolute killer for us.
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Hawthorn need to figure out which players are expendable and which senior players they need to help bring through their next generation.
There’s few players on their list who have any currency, but O’Meara and Wingard would still have some.
Hawthorn have Mitchell and Worpel on the list, which mitigates the need for O’Meara, while Wingard is a cherry on top type player who will only provide output in line with the quality of the team he is in and provides nothing in the way of leadership.
Sicily is another who’d be worth quite a bit
Then why was Patton chased ?
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Still waiting for you to respond to your chest puffing about adding Patton and Frost to your side this year
. Enjoy the long rebuild.
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I remember when you were trying to convince me Lewis was more talented than Aaron Naughton lol. Funny times.
Seems to be overly concerned with his shoulder. Will not tackle (goes for bumps instead), and not smashing packs like he was late last year. Hard to get confidence back after his injury when the rest of the team is so down on it too. Hard to see us turning this around right now. Entire side performing well under what it was doing late last year. Sure Burgoyne and perhaps Stratton dropping off was predictable, but younger players that were carrying us to wins late last year are just not turning up right now. We are not as bad as our total lack of confidence is making out, but not clear where confidence is going to come from. Impey will hopefully inject some creativity off half back next week (hopefully replacing Stratton if Clarko is good to his word during the week), not sure how soon Breust will be back, but forward line needs him desperately. Hopefully TOB back in and let Lewis get some confidence back in his body in scratch matches. Bigger ground next week will help, but Carlton's confidence levels compared to ours will be enough alone to give us another loss.
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This will be a tough season for any side that has no depth.
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