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Media Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part IV

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Interesting part was King talking about how we are using Cripps better which is a credit to the coaches.

Post stoppages he is pushing hard forward...we know he is hitting the scoreboard this year and being damaging.

But it has 2 other benefits.

Firstly, it forces his opponent into defence and am uncomfortable position where they can't influence the game. Tom Green had his lowest rating game this season vs us, likely largely due to following Cripps into defence a lot and out of the action.

Secondly, it hides/protects Cripps' weakness of a lack of defensive spread and running pressure. When we turn the ball over, Cripps has already pushed deep into our forward line. So he's not really in the play anyway whereas if he was in the middle of the ground he'd get exposed defensively.
Great observation.
Richmond used Dusty in a similar way through their best year. Great for the team and the player.
 

Legendary Australian football coach David Parkin has revealed a never told before story regarding the sacking of Michael Voss as Brisbane coach, and how it has all come full circle at Carlton.

The Hall of Famer was part of a three-man panel who came to the decision to move on from Voss at the Lions, and also on the Carlton selection committee who appointed him all these years later.
 

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Footy's such a swings and roundabouts thing sometimes. Makes me feel a little better about his appointment, outside of hindsight.

If he was part of the committee that dismissed him from Brisbane, it's reasonable to assume Parkin would be across how he coached then versus now, what's changed.
 
You mean the level of stupidity you were in full support of? That level?
Exactly …. I’ll put my hand up, I was on the Teague train up to my eyeballs …. But when Judd talked about training wheels none of us listened, including me. Clubs that make crucial decisions based on what supporters want are fundamentally flawed in their thinking.

We as supporters, most of us know sweet FA … a board who is too weak to stick its neck out and tell supporters that should also be gone.

It was just the wrong, weak decision appointing Teague. Board bent to the will of supporters hoping on the Teague train.

I’m not going to sit here and blame myself, really what do I know about running a successful afl club. Absolutely nothing! So why the hell should my uninformed opinion matter to a successful club?

It just should not period.
 
Also highlights how massive Hewett and Cerra have been for us.
We have a better playbook for stoppages, but also much better cattle.
I saw a stat elsewhere saying that Hewett has slightly higher clearance numbers than Cripps.
Seems like the pieces fell together at exactly the right time.
This article before the start of the season really highlights the value of Hewett. Obviously coaching staff and players really value the knowledge/expertise he’s imparted to our mid group on body positioning to extract the ball.

 
Also showed multiple clips of our centre clearances where we're consistently able to get an effective handball off to a teammate even though we're being tackled and under immense pressure.
One of my mates who’s a diehard Sydney supporter (really value his knowledge) was devo when Hewett left. The thing he noted was that Hewett would walk straight into our midfield- said he was amazed at how Hewett was almost always able to get a clean handball away when tackled. Wonder if he’s passed something onto our other mids? Also said Hewett makes extremely good decisions/rarely makes mistakes. Hewett’ s stats this season profoundly support his thoughts. He’s averaging 14.4 contested possessions a game with a disposal efficiency of 82.9%. To my knowledge this is amazing!
 
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One of my mates who’s a diehard Sydney supporter was devo when Hewett left. The thing he noted was that Hewett would walk straight into our midfield- said he was amazed at how Hewett was almost always able to get a clean handball away when tackled - wonder if he’s passed something onto our other mids.
Hewett was never going to be a star at Sydney - he doesn't have blonde hair.
 
The thing that sometimes goes unmentioned about Bolton and his tenure here is that he instilled a much welcome level of professional standards for our players and their conduct, especially off field

How many of our players have made the media headlines for all the wrong reasons during and after the time that Bolts was coach?
I do agree that Bolton did bring in Minimum Standards. They needed to be professional, polite, etc.

Basically turned the players into students, which is probably why this group is able to take in everything the coaching group is feeding them.

It is also an indication of how poor our previous coaching group were.
 

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One of my mates who’s a diehard Sydney supporter (really value his knowledge) was devo when Hewett left. The thing he noted was that Hewett would walk straight into our midfield- said he was amazed at how Hewett was almost always able to get a clean handball away when tackled. Wonder if he’s passed something onto our other mids? Also said Hewett makes extremely good decisions/rarely makes mistakes. Hewett’ s stats this season profoundly support his thoughts. He’s averaging 14.4 contested possessions a game with a disposal efficiency of 82.9%. To my knowledge this is amazing!
Elite gem.

VfM wise, best trade by any club in the last decade.
 

Thanks so much for posting that. DP is one football personality that I could listen to for hours. The humility of the man - in light of everything he has achieved in football and the overall effect that he's had given the influence he's exerted on so many in important positions within the AFL today - is just staggering.

IMHO he stands so very much taller than the blowhard Malthouse's and Sheedy's of our game just from his desire to downplay his enormous influence.
 
One of my mates who’s a diehard Sydney supporter (really value his knowledge) was devo when Hewett left. The thing he noted was that Hewett would walk straight into our midfield- said he was amazed at how Hewett was almost always able to get a clean handball away when tackled. Wonder if he’s passed something onto our other mids? Also said Hewett makes extremely good decisions/rarely makes mistakes. Hewett’ s stats this season profoundly support his thoughts. He’s averaging 14.4 contested possessions a game with a disposal efficiency of 82.9%. To my knowledge this is amazing!
I remember one of those CFC media videos either early in the season or during preseason where they were asking the players who the strongest player at the club is (or it might have been the toughest tackler) and quite a few of them said Hewett. They seemed mightily impressed by how strong he is.
 

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Exactly …. I’ll put my hand up, I was on the Teague train up to my eyeballs …. But when Judd talked about training wheels none of us listened, including me. Clubs that make crucial decisions based on what supporters want are fundamentally flawed in their thinking.

We as supporters, most of us know sweet FA … a board who is too weak to stick its neck out and tell supporters that should also be gone.

It was just the wrong, weak decision appointing Teague. Board bent to the will of supporters hoping on the Teague train.

I’m not going to sit here and blame myself, really what do I know about running a successful afl club. Absolutely nothing! So why the hell should my uninformed opinion matter to a successful club?

It just should not period.
There is no right or wrong at the time a coach is appointed IMO. There is no magic formula. We sacked ratten too early, but its debateable whether he was ready. He certainly knows the game inside out. Parkin rates him as one of the smartest football brains he has ever met.



Malthouse could have been great with a better list, but the reality was that he was past developing a list, his interest dropped off very quickly- especially with the lack of board support. He ended up alienating everybody on the way out

Bolton was a great coach IMO but again , wasnrt given enough backup in terms of assistant coaches and didnt have the boards faith. He will coach again, and probably do well like Ratts. Good luck to him.

Teague was given the gig because his offence game plan contrasted with Boltons defence first plan, that had us struggling to kick goals. It could have worked, given that BB had given our young team a pretty thorough defensive grounding. Alas we didnt have the small defensive forwards under teague and our midfield was not great at defensive running, both of which put huge pressure on our defence.

Vos, is now the finished article IMO, and our list is much closer to a contending list than we have had in the past 20 years. he has complete support of the board, and has been given some elite assistants. No coaches before him had this support. Voss didnt have it in Brisbane either.

In hindsight we have made some very reactive decisions-

Brittain>> Pagan : Brittains failure was list related , but the board perceived that he was inexperienced, and so appointed the experienced Pagan.
Pagan>> Ratten: Pagans failure was list and AFL sanctions related, the Board perceived that Pagan wasnt a Blues man and wanted a loyal carlton coach
Ratten>> Malthouse: Ratten was setup to fail . He inherited a young talented list inc C Judd. The board thought that a few stars including Murph, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Judd, Walker and Yarran, was enough. But the list didnt run deep. Ratts was too inexperienced, but still got some great results out of the list. In the end he was judged to be too inexperienced and moved on, to be replaced by the Messia -Malthouse.
Malthouse>> Bolton: The board decided that a thorough selection process was in order after the Malthouse disaster. In the end a young inexperienced coach was selected to look after our new crop of players. Despite the obvious talent on the list, they were obviously not ready. Boltons coaching was sound, but it was too hard on very young players, being more suited to a mature list like the successful Hawks-where he had just come from.
Bolton>> teague: Boltons heavily defensive and somewhat boring game plan needed to be replaced. We rarely scored over 100 points. Teague was appointed senior coach and had an instant impact-we started kicking goals. Unfortunately, we let our defensive game go and kept losing.
teague >> Voss: Finally, IMO everything is coming together. We have a talented list with enough depth and experienced, an experienced and enthusiastic coach, a board who is ready to support, everything is aligning.

It seems to me that most clubs never know how their new coach is going to perform. The AFL is littered with unsuccessful ex coaches. Maths says that there will always be way more unsuccessful ones than successful. There can only ever be one premier, and in recent times we have tended towards dynastic premiers like Hawthorn, Richmond, and, IMO melbourne, so the really successful coaches are even more scarce. That carlton has had its fair share of unsuccessful coaches is not that remarkeable IMO.
 
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There is no right or wrong at the time a coach is appointed IMO. There is no magic formula. We sacked ratten too early, but its debateable whether he was ready. He certainly knows the game inside out. Parkin rates him as one of the smartest football brains he has ever met.



Malthouse could have been great with a better list, but the reality was that he was past developing a list, his interest dropped off very quickly- especially with the lack of board support. He ended up alienating everybody on the way out

Bolton was a great coach IMO but again , wasnrt given enough backup in terms of assistant coaches and didnt have the boards faith. He will coach again, and probably do well like Ratts. Good luck to him.

Teague was given the gig because his offence game plan contrasted with Boltons defence first plan, that had us struggling to kick goals. It could have worked, given that BB had given our young team a pretty thorough defensive grounding. Alas we didnt have the small defensive forwards under teague and our midfield was not great at defensive running, both of which put huge pressure on our defence.

Vos, is now the finished article IMO, and our list is much closer to a contending list than we have had in the past 20 years. he has complete support of the board, and has been given some elite assistants. No coaches before him had this support. Voss didnt have it in Brisbane either.

In hindsight we have made some very reactive decisions-

Brittain>> Pagan : Brittains failure was list related , but the board perceived that he was inexperienced, and so appointed the experienced Pagan.
Pagan>> Ratten: Pagans failure was list and AFL sanctions related, the Board perceived that Pagan wasnt a Blues man and wanted a loyal carlton coach
Ratten>> Malthouse: Ratten was setup to fail . He inherited a young talented list inc C Judd. The board thought that a few stars including Murph, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Judd, Walker and Yarran, was enough. But the list didnt run deep. Ratts was too inexperienced, but still got some great results out of the list. In the end he was judged to be too inexperienced and moved on, to be replaced by the Messia -Malthouse.
Malthouse>> Bolton: The board decided that a thorough selection process was in order after the Malthouse disaster. In the end a young inexperienced coach was selected to look after our new crop of players. Despite the obvious talent on the list, they were obviously not ready. Boltons coaching was sound, but it was too hard on very young players, being more suited to a mature list like the successful Hawks-where he had just come from.
Bolton>> teague: Boltons heavily defensive and somewhat boring game plan needed to be replaced. We rarely scored over 100 points. Teague was appointed senior coach and had an instant impact-we started kicking goals. Unfortunately, we let our defensive game go and kept losing.
teague >> Voss: Finally, IMO everything is coming together. We have a talented list with enough depth and experienced, an experienced and enthusiastic coach, a board who is ready to support, everything is aligning.

It seems to me that most clubs never know how their new coach is going to perform. The AFL is littered with unsuccessful ex coaches. Maths says that there will always be way more unsuccessful ones than successful. There can only ever be one premier, and in recent times we have ended towards dynastic premiers like Hawthorn, Richmond, and, IMO melbourne, so the really successful coaches are even more scarce. That carlton has had its fair share of unsuccessful coaches is not that remarkeable IMO.

Agree hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
One of my mates who’s a diehard Sydney supporter (really value his knowledge) was devo when Hewett left. The thing he noted was that Hewett would walk straight into our midfield- said he was amazed at how Hewett was almost always able to get a clean handball away when tackled. Wonder if he’s passed something onto our other mids? Also said Hewett makes extremely good decisions/rarely makes mistakes. Hewett’ s stats this season profoundly support his thoughts. He’s averaging 14.4 contested possessions a game with a disposal efficiency of 82.9%. To my knowledge this is amazing!
Very good article in todays Age about what George has bought to our team. Good read.
 

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