Caro doesn't mince words.

[Sainter3and7]

She's right.
It is deeply disturbing to think that young men were injected with various substances - even if you take the club on its word "we don't know what they took" - which could harm them long term.
Not professional, not acceptable, definitely breach of duty of care... at the BARE MINIMUM

 

[DonsRule]

what in heck has that got to do with?

I am sure that some of the drugs mentioned are NOT TGA approved...

Meaning, it is can be used on humans, but may very well fall foul of WADA's S0 code.

Like, some medicine can be purchased over the shelf , some need a doctors prescription to be legally sources.

 

[pinot]

Meaning, it is can be used on humans, but may very well fall foul of WADA's S0 code.

Like, some medicine can be purchased over the shelf , some need a doctors prescription to be legally sources.

AOD is still undergoing clinical trials but saw it fit to inject it into your players same with Pigs Brains, Calfs Blood and First Milk from a Mother Cow.

 

[hoianbulldog]

I'm not trying to shut you down or stifle debate, but why does one throw away comment from Caro need a thread? Honest question.

This is going to be a long drawn out saga regardless of which way it goes. On the days when we don't have a news story about hirdy banging lines and hookers concurrently then we will have threads about single comments from journos.

Harness up and put the helmet on. This is going to be a long ride.

 

[Scott Emberton]

i can't help but think after all the to and fro about Dank, letters, WADA, etc,etc dies down - this is the question that Essendon will have to confront. What the hell were they thinking injecting ANYTHING into young blokes just to win games of footy. That stain will be impossible to remove with spin and weasel words I'm afraid.

 

[hoianbulldog]

don't shoot the messenger.She is correct in they failed in their duty of care to their playing list.Giving players substances that are not allowed to be used on humans is a negligent act. IMO criminal.IF my employer lined me up and did that to me, I could sue the pants off them.

They aren't allowed to be given to horses.......

 

[Scott Emberton]

I'm not trying to shut you down or stifle debate, but why does one throw away comment from Caro need a thread? Honest question.

because - believe it or not - in that ONE sentence she actually ot to the heart of the matter. forget the emails, regs, texts, etc. What was this footy club thinking in treating its players like this to gain an advantage.?

also why is it necessary to justify every new thread on this board to you Lance. I know you'd like to mod.... but?

 

[mxett]

i can't help but think after all the to and fro about Dank, letters, WADA, etc,etc dies down - this is the question that Essendon will have to confront. What the hell were they thinking injecting ANYTHING into young blokes just to win games of footy. That stain will be impossible to remove with spin and weasel words I'm afraid.

WADA compliance or not players were told what each substances was, they were given a chance to refuse to participate and they gave their consent.

 

[Scott Emberton]

Lance got 7!

and I'm not talking Uppercut!

 

[Scott Emberton]

WADA compliance or not players were told what each substances was, they were given a chance to refuse to participate and they gave their consent.

thats not good enough sorry. they shouldnt have been asked. thats the point that evades you.

 

[hoianbulldog]

WADA compliance or not players were told what each substances was, they were given a chance to refuse to participate and they gave their consent.

So they will be banned for that........agree?

 

[DonsRule]

i can't help but think after all the to and fro about Dank, letters, WADA, etc,etc dies down - this is the question that Essendon will have to confront. What the hell were they thinking injecting ANYTHING into young blokes just to win games of footy. That stain will be impossible to remove with spin and weasel words I'm afraid.

Going to be a lot to answer for that one.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hawks-set-the-pace-in-injection-science-20120924-26hhg.html

 

[pazza]

Until it can be PROVEN that it actually happened, Caro is just pissing in the wind as usual.

 

[mxett]

thats not good enough sorry. they shouldnt have been asked. thats the point that evades you.

Players are adults and can choose for themselves. They were never forced to participate. I don't know of any supplement that was used that is considered a health risk

 

[Lance Uppercut]

because - believe it or not - in that ONE sentence she actually ot to the heart of the matter. forget the emails, regs, texts, etc. What was this footy club thinking in treating its players like this to gain an advantage.?

also why is it necessary to justify every new thread on this board to you Lance. I know you'd like to mod.... but?

no thanks, I have no interest in being a mod, ever.

 

[DonsRule]

What I agree with is, the players are the ones that central to this in that they need to be looked after.

But - Does she care about them at all with all the articles she writes that merely scare mongering what they may have taken without ASADA making their case, if it's going to sell a few more papers?

 

[Scott Emberton]

Players are adults and can choose for themselves. They were never forced to participate. I don't know of any supplement that was used that is considered a health risk

see above for the ultimate in morally bankrupt defences.

 

[Pantsless]

Players are adults and can choose for themselves. They were never forced to participate. I don't know of any supplement that was used that is considered a health risk

Also, they look like a bunch of blokes who are really angry about what they were subjected to.

The anger on their faces when they got Hirdy in the circle for the song against Freo said more to me than any BF thread.

Caro didn't mince her words when she had a crack a Brayshaw also.....ummmmmm....

 

[mxett]

see above for the ultimate in morally bankrupt defences.

BS

Supplements were approved by Reid and administered under medical supervision

 

[Scott Emberton]

Fair enough

no thanks, I have no interest in being a mod, ever.

. but I guess you still expect them to be there everytime you whistle eh?

 

[Scott Emberton]

BS

Supplements were approved by Reid and administered under medical supervision

"supplement" is such a nice way of putting it isn't it?

 

[pazza]

Fair enough

. but I guess you still expect them to be there everytime you whistle eh?

Face it...calling her a pro was a bit much. Calling her a glorified gossip columnist is a little more accurate.

 

[mxett]

"supplement" is such a nice way of putting it isn't it?

I'm sure that makes all the difference...

 

[campbell]

BS

Supplements were approved by Reid and administered under medical supervision

do you honestly believe this?

off site. where was the medical supervision?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

do you honestly believe this?

off site. where was the medical supervision?

the nurse who was there?

Or do you think nurses are no good?