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List Mgmt. Celebrity death match - the final list spot

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looks like we have 3 options to fill the final list spot vacated by young Johnson

1- Nigel Lockyer
2- Nathan Ireland
3- list spot open for mid-season draft

a quick scan of draft central reveals the following

Nigel Lockyer

186cm 92kg

A versatile player with good skills, Lockyer has put on some size of late, having represented Northern Territory in both basketball and Australian rules football. He is a high-leaping talent at both ends, who recorded 87cm on the running vertical jump at the State Combine, and clocked up 2.93 seconds on the 20m sprint. He still has to build his fitness, but is a raw mature-age talent with confidence in his game. Since his impressive state combine outing, Lockyer returned home the very next day to play for Palmerston in the Northern Territory Football League (NTFL), booting three goals in consecutive outings and becoming a key cog in the Magpies’ setup. A player who rates his well-rounded game, Lockyer has continued to develop since his draft year to now be a genuine mature-aged prospect with good size. Lockyer Jnr represented Northern Territory in the TAC Cup back in 2016, averaging the 8.7 touches and three marks. Fast forward to 2019 and while he still averages just the 10 touches and 3.5 marks per game, he does it against senior bodies and it is more his high impact per possession that catches the eye.

STRENGTHS: Acceleration, vertical leap, marking, size, skills
IMPROVEMENTS: Endurance, defensive pressure, accumulation


Nathan Ireland

198cm 88kg

DESPITE being an overager, Ireland is still developing his game having stepped up to Swan Districts’ Reserves and League squads this season as a key defender. While he is not the fastest player, he is far from a complete slouch, and has decent mobility for his height which bodes well for shutting down increasingly mobile talls. He became a strong interceptor at the Black Ducks, and even managed a game for the Under-18 state side in 2019, with marking and endurance his strengths. Going forward, Ireland can look to improve on his consistency as he has the potential to hit the 15-disposal mark on the back of his endurance and reading of the play, while also building on his swingman status after spending some time up forward this year.

STRENGTHS: Versatility, marking, endurance, strength
IMPROVEMENTS: Consistency, raw

So where do you sit on this?

which do we need more? does one fill a list hole more than another? Has anyone seen these guys play or have any info on them?

I read Nigel trained yesterday and looked a little nervous (to be expected) and struggled a bit in the blustery conditions. He looks a great size - but maybe hes jake stringer lite? (or more insurance for joe)

Is Ireland a long term fill for the impending retirements of H & H? Defence seems OK for talls but after Hartley flew the coop maybe we lack the resting ruck minder. (BZT?)

Im personally leaning toward Lockyer with zero actual basis in fact, other than liking excitement machines (cue the NT stereotyping, magic.)

option 3 is a dud, we don't need an open list spot - we will have many LTI before mid season if true to form.
 

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Open list spot. The other 2 options strike me as classic dodoro duds. Don't know we can't draft footballers for a change.
"Draft footballers" like Parish, Merrett, Hurley, Hooker, Francis, Heppell, Daniher, Fantasia, Walla, Gleeson, McGrath, et al?
 
Nigel Lockyer for mine. A super athletic utility with a proven work ethic is the exact type of player you use a rookie spot on

Also i don't know much about young Ireland, but we have 4 ruckman on our list.
If we pick him up as a developmental ruck, why not just pick him up in the ND or rookie draft instead of also drafting Bryan.
 
Nigel Lockyer for mine. A super athletic utility with a proven work ethic is the exact type of player you use a rookie spot on

Also i don't know much about young Ireland, but we have 4 ruckman on our list.
If we pick him up as a developmental ruck, why not just pick him up in the ND or rookie draft instead of also drafting Bryan.
Ireland is a key defender
 
I am hearing Aaron Britten from Deer Park/Shepparton has been signed by you guys today.

Not sure what type of list spot, but obvious connection is former player Marc Bullen also from Shepparton originally.
Probably VFL
 
I'll hope 3.

Lockyear and Ireland sound like nobodies.

Why go for them when Chirgwin, Finlay, Freitag, Hilder, Baldi, Cassar, Courtney and O'Sullivan can be snagged?

Cassar is teetering BTW.
 

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I'll hope 3.

Lockyear and Ireland sound like nobodies.

Why go for them when Chirgwin, Finlay, Freitag, Hilder, Baldi, Cassar, Courtney and O'Sullivan can be snagged?

Cassar is teetering BTW.
Because they're both (relatively) low risk high reward players.

I remember people whinging about going another key defender in BZT over Dylan Moore.
 


Young exciting ruckman who can also play forward, we were keen on him pre-draft aswell

Hm. Not sure if he's the right one this year.
 
Hm. Not sure if he's the right one this year.
Personally think we have the ruck settled now unless we see him being capable as a developing forward, doesn’t look anywhere near ready for senior footy body wise
 
Personally think we have the ruck settled now unless we see him being capable as a developing forward, doesn’t look anywhere near ready for senior footy body wise

The club has an obsession with rucks - And then you can;t even give them ruck time in the VFL.
 

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From a list perspective I think Ireland makes the most sense considering we let Hartley go and didn’t replace him with a KPD. After BZT I guess Ridley would be next in line and he’s not really a KPD imo.
 
From a list perspective I think Ireland makes the most sense considering we let Hartley go and didn’t replace him with a KPD. After BZT I guess Ridley would be next in line and he’s not really a KPD imo.
You still have Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Ridley and BZT. Then someone like Francis can play on the bigger 3rd talls as well.
 
You still have Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Ridley and BZT. Then someone like Francis can play on the bigger 3rd talls as well.

Hooker could be needed forward and is injury prone, Hurley injury prone and Ambrose injury prone.

Our defence could easily line up as:

FB: Ridley - Ambrose - Saad
HB: Gleeson - Hurley - Francis

Leaving BZT as the only defender with any height outside the best 22.
 
Hooker could be needed forward and is injury prone, Hurley injury prone and Ambrose injury prone.

Our defence could easily line up as:

FB: Ridley - Ambrose - Saad
HB: Gleeson - Hurley - Francis

Leaving BZT as the only defender with any height outside the best 22.
2020 games:

Ambrose: 20
Hooker: 18
Hurley: 19

I'm reasonably comfortable with the amount of key defenders we have.
 
What? How does Essendon have an obsession with rucks?

We have Bellchambers, Phillips, Draper and Bryan on the list while JD and Mckernan can spend time in the ruck - Enough said.
 

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