CEY

[1970crow]

Greenwood reads the ball amazingly well off hands in marking contests

I guess that just because someone gets inside info, doesn't mean they don't have some odd views on the game.

 

[1970crow]

I reckon one of them should be at every stoppage but let's not kid ourselves, the attention goes to Sloane, Crouch and Gibbs.

This allows CEY and Greenwood space and time. I'm not convinced on eithers ability to do that for the full 5 weeks or so that Matt is missing.

I'm not sure that either gets much of their ball in space and time spots.

 

[hey shorty]

I'm not sure that either gets much of their ball in space and time spots.

Moreso than the others though, and players at this level don't need much

 

[Sanders]

I'm actually more interested as to why Stiffy_18 thinks getting to an aerial contest and then providing a contest on the deck is a skill that Dougie has but neither CEY or Greenwood could possibly possess. With pigeonholing beliefs like that, the inside info he supplies sometimes might just be from himself.

Oh c’mon. Blind Freddy can see these are vastly different players

CEY & Greenwood are slow, powerful, inside, contested players who work best at the stoppage. They are first possession players who dig it out, they are not who it is dug out too

Guys like Douglas, Matthew Wright, Devon Smith etc are smaller, faster inside/out players, who work clean up to and around half forward with nibbleness and speed, crumbling and creating whilst also hitting the scoreboard.

Would you call Will Hayward and Josh P Kennedy similar players?

 

[1970crow]

Oh c’mon. Blind Freddy can see these are vastly different players

CEY & Greenwood are slow, powerful, inside, contested players who work best at the stoppage. They are first possession players who dig it out, they are not who it is dug out too

Guys like Douglas, Matthew Wright, Devon Smith etc are smaller, faster inside/out players, who work clean up to and around half forward with nibbleness and speed, crumbling and creating whilst also hitting the scoreboard.

Would you call Will Hayward and Josh P Kennedy similar players?

None of that interests me at all. I'm saying that both players would be as effective as Douglas in the forward line. Both offensively and defensively, how they go about it is irrelevant. From memory, Dougie didn't have a great season in the forward line in 2016. Pretty sure Lyons was a bit better and speed and nimbleness weren't his key assets. Getting to the right place and getting his hands on the ball were though. I'm not sure why you think neither Greenwood or CEY are capable of that though. CEY averaged more goals and tackles than Dougie in his 2 games up forward in 2016. Effectiveness is what I'm interested in.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I agree with with the 1st 4 but I'd take CEY over Hampton any day of the week.

Would definitely prefer CEY as a back-up inside midfielder, but Hampton as an outside player.

 

[Sanders]

None of that interests me at all. I'm saying that both players would be as effective as Douglas in the forward line. Both offensively and defensively, how they go about it is irrelevant. From memory, Dougie didn't have a great season in the forward line in 2016. Pretty sure Lyons was a bit better and speed and nimbleness weren't his key assets. Getting to the right place and getting his hands on the ball were though. I'm not sure why you think neither Greenwood or CEY are capable of that though. CEY averaged more goals and tackles than Dougie in his 2 games up forward in 2016. Effectiveness is what I'm interested in.

You think all positions are the same and require the same skills and attributes?

That’s just silly

Greenwood has no tank, he struggles to play 60% of game time. You telling me we wouldn’t use him up forward, where his low tank would matter less, if we could?

CEY is not clean enough to play inside/out on HF. Nor nearly quick enough

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think his decision making makes it look worse. That will come with time at the level.

Needs to realise with his big body, he has time with his decision making.

Agree that needs consecutive games to help achieve this.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I reckon one of them should be at every stoppage but let's not kid ourselves, the attention goes to Sloane, Crouch and Gibbs.

This allows CEY and Greenwood space and time. I'm not convinced on eithers ability to do that for the full 5 weeks or so that Matt is missing.

We are about to find out whether CEY & Greenwood will fill the slack as neither Crouch will be back for at least a month.

Better to find out our depth now than in finals.

 

[Shaz2012]

Guys like Douglas, Matthew Wright, Devon Smith etc are smaller, faster inside/out players, who work clean up to and around half forward with nibbleness and speed, crumbling and creating whilst also hitting the scoreboard.

Douglas isn't going to get picked as a half-forward with nimbleness and speed. Those days are long gone for him. He is nearing his cliff. It remains to be seen if that will be sooner rather than later. But he will be picked based on his ability to rotate into the midfield and take some of that contested load. He will also need to be hitting the scoreboard if he is playing in the forward half.

Below is the list of the AFL's oldest players. The list gets shorter with age and in good teams only the very elite names survive as they work their way up this list. You would think that around half of the guys that are Dougy's age will play on in 2019. I think Dougy will, but I am not sure if he will be in our best 22 next year. Based on last week (and pretty much only last week) CEY is a guy that might give Dougy a run for his money this year.

AFL players by age:

35 YEARS OLD
Shaun Burgoyne, Aaron Sandilands, Dale Morris, Jarrad Waite

33 YEARS OLD
Kade Simpson, Gary Ablett, Luke Hodge, Michael Johnson, Daniel Wells

32 YEARS OLD
Jarrad McVeigh, Brendon Goddard, David Mundy, Bernie Vince, Heath Shaw, Michael Rischitelli

31 YEARS OLD
Danyle Pearce, Jordan Lewis, Scott Thompson, Sam Gibson, Heath Grundy, Harry Taylor, Ryan Griffen, Liam Picken, Sam Gilbert, Mark LeCras, Justin Westhoff, Stefan Martin, Matt Rosa, Eddie Betts, Jarryd Roughead, Lance Franklin, Richard Douglas, Cameron Pedersen

 

[Sanders]

Douglas isn't going to get picked as a half-forward with nimbleness and speed. Those days are long gone for him. He is nearing his cliff. It remains to be seen if that will be sooner rather than later. But he will be picked based on his ability to rotate into the midfield and take some of that contested load. He will also need to be hitting the scoreboard if he is playing in the forward half.

Below is the list of the AFL's oldest players. The list gets shorter with age and in good teams only the very elite names survive as they work their way up this list. You would think that around half of the guys that are Dougy's age will play on in 2019. I think Dougy will, but I am not sure if he will be in our best 22 next year. Based on last week (and pretty much only last week) CEY is a guy that might give Dougy a run for his money this year.

AFL players by age:

35 YEARS OLD
Shaun Burgoyne, Aaron Sandilands, Dale Morris, Jarrad Waite

33 YEARS OLD
Kade Simpson, Gary Ablett, Luke Hodge, Michael Johnson, Daniel Wells

32 YEARS OLD
Jarrad McVeigh, Brendon Goddard, David Mundy, Bernie Vince, Heath Shaw, Michael Rischitelli

31 YEARS OLD
Danyle Pearce, Jordan Lewis, Scott Thompson, Sam Gibson, Heath Grundy, Harry Taylor, Ryan Griffen, Liam Picken, Sam Gilbert, Mark LeCras, Justin Westhoff, Stefan Martin, Matt Rosa, Eddie Betts, Jarryd Roughead, Lance Franklin, Richard Douglas, Cameron Pedersen

The fuq

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

Anywhere we can get one of these jumpers or shirts?

I'm not sure, I'd love to get one

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

You look utterly stoned

It's not me.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

I still got my Yolman themed Village people hoodie stashed away at home, waiting for the day to shine.

How did you get that?

 

[azza77]

How did you get that?

Saw an advertisement somewhere (cant remember where), some guy was making them. Picked up 2 off a place on Magill road and back then they were one of the last ones left. From memory it was some guy that here and there did clothing prints with a bit of humour to them.

After he did his ACL and then got de-listed and re-rookied I was wondering if I would ever wear it again, but it might not be over just yet...

 

[SellarStardom]

Watched the replay yesterday and the ability of CEY to use his bulk and strength is a massive plus. Our midfield is largely the 186cm range and no where near the bulk of CEY. He is 190cm but more importantly 97kg, that's a huge frame.

On multiple occasions in heavy taffic he was able to barge through and release the handball. He had dusty hanging off him at one point and didn't worry in the slightest.

With a few more games his bulk and crash has the potential to be a massive upside for the team. When the crouches come back do we play Brad at HFF and drop douglas to leave in CEY. Let's wait and see the comments in 3-4 weeks

 

[azza77]

Watched the replay yesterday and the ability of CEY to use his bulk and strength is a massive plus. Our midfield is largely the 186cm range and no where near the bulk of CEY. He is 190cm but more importantly 97kg, that's a huge frame.

On multiple occasions in heavy taffic he was able to barge through and release the handball. He had dusty hanging off him at one point and didn't worry in the slightest.

With a few more games his bulk and crash has the potential to be a massive upside for the team. When the crouches come back do we play Brad at HFF and drop douglas to leave in CEY. Let's wait and see the comments in 3-4 weeks

As I said previously, I think he ability to actually hold onto the ball, draw players in and even have players tackling him, while still firing off an effective handball, just gave our other midfielders so much more room to move at times.

His outside work is still seriously lacking, so to make up for that he's going to have to rest forward and take some grabs and hopefully take advantage of a defensive mismatch. If he takes a taller defender with him due to his size and strength, then even better, it means one of our other forwards like Fog/Lynch/Gov will then most likely have the mismatch and we take advantage of that (if our kicks inside 50 are smart enough).

 

[Golumless]

Watched the replay yesterday and the ability of CEY to use his bulk and strength is a massive plus. Our midfield is largely the 186cm range and no where near the bulk of CEY. He is 190cm but more importantly 97kg, that's a huge frame.

On multiple occasions in heavy taffic he was able to barge through and release the handball. He had dusty hanging off him at one point and didn't worry in the slightest.

With a few more games his bulk and crash has the potential to be a massive upside for the team. When the crouches come back do we play Brad at HFF and drop douglas to leave in CEY. Let's wait and see the comments in 3-4 weeks

It was seeing that on the replay that made me think he could be a good call as an 7th/8th midfielder. Just is a huge point of difference at that point of a midfield depth chart

 

[Bicks]

Here you go Vader

 

[Betts are off]

Over Under for total games by CEY this year.

Setting the point at 15

I think he'll go over, which even surprised myself. Cause if you asked me before round 1 I would have set it at 2

 

[spexau]

81% TOG as well on the weekend. Building that required fitness base.

 

[Geoffa32]

I am one who has said all three of M Crouch, CEY and Greenwood can't play in the same team.

However CEY has altered his game a bit the last two matches. Gone from being pure inside to having an outside starting position and using that massive frame to bullock inside to win the contest.



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[Geoffa32]

Over Under for total games by CEY this year.

Setting the point at 15

I think he'll go over, which even surprised myself. Cause if you asked me before round 1 I would have set it at 2

I have changed my view. Feel he stays in untill Brad Crouch is ready.

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[Bicks]

I am one who has said all three of M Crouch, CEY and Greenwood can't play in the same team.

However CEY has altered his game a bit the last two matches. Gone from being pure inside to having an outside starting position and using that massive frame to bullock inside to win the contest.



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Ellis-Yolmen - 29 Disposals - 22 Effective - 7 Clearances - 9 Score involvements - 1 goal - 1 Clanger - 4 Turnovers
Jarryd Lyons -25 Disposals - 17 Effective - 4 Clearances - 4 score involvements - 1 point - 4 Clangers - 6 Turnovers

 

[Geoffa32]

Ellis-Yolmen - 29 Disposals - 22 Effective - 7 Clearances - 9 Score involvements - 1 goal - 1 Clanger - 4 Turnovers
Jarryd Lyons -25 Disposals - 17 Effective - 4 Clearances - 4 score involvements - 1 point - 4 Clangers - 6 Turnovers

Sitting at AO watching Lyons play live the eye test told me he would still only be depth for us.




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