Strategy Changes for final Subi game v Crows

[dajesmac]

No point naming Waterman for the last game and not playing him.

Totally stupid.
Smh at Simpson he's ****** in the head.

You could say that about any player named on the extended bench. They have two pick three extra and then cut them.

 

[Godfather32]

CM9000 - this may illustrate my point:

Apart from the obvious (last in every category) the thing that sticks out for me are that whilst we have a low amount of players on the list in total it's not that much lower than everyone else, the big problem is that we debut so few of our young players and give them such little experience.

 

[CM9000]

CM9000 - this may illustrate my point:
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Yes, and that will be rectified next season. As I said, no point in getting upset when there's only one game to go.

 

[Godfather32]

Yes, and that will be rectified next season. As I said, no point in getting upset when there's only one game to go.

You can't just magically get games into these guys, it can't be rectified next season, the damage has been done.

 

[CM9000]

You can't just magically get games into these guys, it can't be rectified next season, the damage has been done.

With all the retirements and added focus on youth, plus our plan to originally debut youngsters who got injured (Rioli, Waterman, Vennables), I think it's pretty safe to assume we're looking to fix it next season.

 

[Godfather32]

With all the retirements and added focus on youth, plus our plan to originally debut youngsters who got injured (Rioli, Waterman, Vennables), I think it's pretty safe to assume we're looking to fix it next season.

You're missing the point, we sacrificed the future two years in a row to lose in an EF and then finish 9th, the club is being run by incompetent morons. That is why I'm annoyed, not because we didn't pick Waterman this week.

 

[Eagleboy68]

You could say that about any player named on the extended bench. They have two pick three extra and then cut them.

Was every player a potential debutante?

 

[CM9000]

You're missing the point, we sacrificed the future two years in a row to lose in an EF and then finish 9th, the club is being run by incompetent morons. That is why I'm annoyed, not because we didn't pick Waterman this week.

You can't predict we would've finished 9th after getting Sam Mitchell or pantsed in the EF last year after the form we were in. Additionally, how do you know a fall in 2018 is set in stone? I reckon we'll be up there next year

 

[WCErevival]

You're missing the point, we sacrificed the future two years in a row to lose in an EF and then finish 9th, the club is being run by incompetent morons. That is why I'm annoyed, not because we didn't pick Waterman this week.

By your logic, after 2005 we should have retired everyone and played all the kids.

 

[Godfather32]

You can't predict we would've finished 9th after getting Sam Mitchell or pantsed in the EF last year after the form we were in. Additionally, how do you know a fall in 2018 is set in stone? I reckon we'll be up there next year

We weren't in good form last year, we played 2 or 3 good games for the whole season and this year was very predictable, particularly without Nic Nat to cover over the midfield cracks. Not sure how good you think Sam Mitchell is but he's 34 years old and his best is well behind him. I was under the impression we brought Mitchell in to mentor our young guys this year, most of whom hardly got to play with him at all. And I haven't said anything about a fall next year, I'm sure we'll be perfectly mediocre like this year with no chance of competing for a flag unless we manage to pull off an amazing coup in the off-season.

 

[Godfather32]

By your logic, after 2005 we should have retired everyone and played all the kids.

Don't be ridiculous. I'm not saying we have to play every kid on our list in every game, but we should be playing more of them, like every single other team in the AFL is.

 

[dajesmac]

Was every player a potential debutante?

Not sure I see the relevance

 

[CM9000]

We weren't in good form last year, we played 2 or 3 good games for the whole season and this year was very predictable, particularly without Nic Nat to cover over the midfield cracks. Not sure how good you think Sam Mitchell is but he's 34 years old and his best is well behind him. I was under the impression we brought Mitchell in to mentor our young guys this year, most of whom hardly got to play with him at all. And I haven't said anything about a fall next year, I'm sure we'll be perfectly mediocre like this year with no chance of competing for a flag unless we manage to pull off an amazing coup in the off-season.

I assumed Sam Mitchell would have a massive effect on our midfield and club as a whole, which many did on here as well, while we were also being tipped to make the top 4 by a lot of people. It wasn't as inevitable as you make it out to be.

Unfortunately, through whatever reasons (I think coaching changes), we've had a terrible year, but I do think there's light at the end of the tunnel.

We'll have a different coaching group, new midfield, new forward line, Nic back, with a good mix of experience and youth. Overall, I think we're looking good.

But I do agree with you on recruitment and (to a lesser extent) development. Rohan O'Brien has stuffed up quite a few picks over the years (SPP, Mitch McGovern e.g.) and I do feel he should be replace.

 

[Eagleboy68]

Not sure I see the relevance

No i didn't think so.

 

[dajesmac]

No i didn't think so.

Care to give it a go? Not sure why it's a bad thing they named Waterman as opposed to someone like Masten.

 

[eaglesfan84]

Agree with this. Maybe we are tanking for a better pick in the draft? [emoji6]


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I think letting the older players have one last game together, a farewell of sorts.

 

[Boohemian]

Hindsight game is strong in this thread.

 

[Godfather32]

Hindsight game is strong in this thread.

Yeh next year everyone will be saying that in hindsight perhaps we should have played some of our young guys the last couple of years

 

[Godfather32]

By your logic, after 2005 we should have retired everyone and played all the kids.

And by the way, in the 06 Grand Final we had 10 players under 25 years old playing so we were in fact playing the kids, last week we had 5.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

I just think we've got some very unintelligent people involved in many facets of our club. There's a mountain of evidence piling up that these people have no idea what they're doing.

Jobs for the boys.

This is what happens when the boys have been there a few years too long. eg Richmond rewarding mediocrity by resigning a coach that can't even win one single final out of 4.

Who the **** makes these decisions and how far up your own or someone else's arse do you need to place your own head before reality disappears...

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

CM9000 - this may illustrate my point:
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Apart from the obvious (last in every category) the thing that sticks out for me are that whilst we have a low amount of players on the list in total it's not that much lower than everyone else, the big problem is that we debut so few of our young players and give them such little experience.

Nah it looks ok to me.

We won 3 flags too right?...right?

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

And by the way, in the 06 Grand Final we had 10 players under 25 years old playing so we were in fact playing the kids, last week we had 5.

Yeah but only one made any difference...

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Yeah but only one made any difference.

Yes, Beau Waters should have won the NS; you're right.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Yes, Beau Waters should have won the NS; you're right.

Bitch please, Buttman layed 400% more tackles than Waters, same inside and rebound 50's, one more clearance, 300% less clangers, only 2 less CP from 12 less touches. Face it the bloke dominated.

Plus to let Beau feel good about himself he let him go up and get his medal before him...

 

[liam123]

Is this a new plan/tactic? Thought he was trying to expose the opposition for height all season. A players height is irrelevant - they select the team based on credits.

Dear sir,

Yes it's a brand new tactic. height is very relevant as I'll clearly point out.

Can everyone kick a ball? Yes
Can everybody run? Yes
Can everybody mark the ball? Yes
Is everyone over 200cm tall? No

It's a game of inches mate, a game of inches. Watch and learn.
Mitch brown is gonna tear them a new one