Changes for round 22

[The New Breid]

In: Reid, Presti, Fraser, Davis
Out: Anthony, N.Brown, L.Brown, Goldsack

If anyone needs a week off, either Goldsack is retained or Medhurst comes in.

 

[THATSGOLD]

I think on the back of Blairs past two games his spot isn't up for grabs this week! Fair call? Unless you all want him rested for finals??

 

[The Norm]

Sidebottom, needs a rest, I'd rest Jolly as well as he played a stinker and a half. Was WOG (worst on ground) for me.

Steele played his best game in a long time and was getting better the longer the game went. Jolly was definitely in our top 5.

My changes:

IN: Reid, Presti, Medhurst, Davis.

OUT: Anthony, N Brown, L Brown, Blair.

I'd like to see both Leon and Medders given a game together, but Josh will probably come in at the expense of one of them or Goldy.

 

[danielnajdek]

I thought Blair was one of our better players Was I at a different game on Saturday night. Thought him Pendles and Daisy were our three better players imo.

 

[Pie eyed]

I thought Blair was one of our better players Was I at a different game on Saturday night. Thought him Pendles and Daisy were our three better players imo.

Blair was very good in tight. No question.

 

[doovies]

Considering that N.Brown(killed tippet) and blair(was brilliant in last quarter) Where prob in tof few players on Sat night, Why would we drop either of them

 

[the mighty T]

It's a hard one, I just think we showed against Adelaide that we lack real speed inside our forward 50, and this is why the likes of Johncock and Sloan (sp?) were able to run it out so easily.

My changes now Leeroy are out are;

In: Reid, Presti, Fraser, Davis/Medhurst
Out: N.Brown, L.Brown, Anthony, Blair

I just didn't like what I saw from Blair on saturday night, when put under the most extreme pressure of his short career, he failed IMO, but that shouldn't be such a surprise, as I think we will see Blair become a consistent AFL player as early as next year.

As far as the Leon or Meds debate goes, I wouldn't be too concerned who came in, but on senior form this year, I rate Leon higher, especially defensively.

Fair enough

I didnt think Blair did too badly myself

But your right i think either can come in and play that position, i just wouldve liked medders to be given more than one week to prove himself worthy

and fraser must be a monty now for his 200th which will please some

 

[half_back_flank]

Fair enough

I didnt think Blair did too badly myself

But your right i think either can come in and play that position, i just wouldve liked medders to be given more than one week to prove himself worthy

and fraser must be a monty now for his 200th which should please everyone

Efa. Destroyed his body for the Collingwood cause, deserves to reach the 200 club.



In: Presti, Fraser, Medhurst, Reid
Out: N.Brown, L.Brown, Anthony, Blair

Fraser in is a given.

Blair very unlucky, but he is fighting for a spot with Steele at the moment.

Presti and Reid are automatic inclusions for mine if fit.

The Medhurst/Davis dilemma is a tough one and if the position they were applying for was a forward/midfielder (like Davis was playing last year) i would have Davis. But our midfield has got deeper this year, and whoever gets the spot in the 22 will be a permanent small forward. With that in mind, I choose Medders in a tight one, mostly because of his ability overhead. Davis' forward pressure is better than Medders, but i saw some pleasing signs from Medders in round 20. Last weekends VFL match should also play a part in this selection, with Medders close to BOG.

 

[SteeleBeams]

In my opinion, i can see Blair playing all finals. He shouldn't be dropped at the expense of Leon or Medders. What do you guys think about Blair ?

 

[The Norm]

In my opinion, i can see Blair playing all finals. He shouldn't be dropped at the expense of Leon or Medders. What do you guys think about Blair ?

There's no doubt he's been very impressive since coming in and he should become a good player in time, but I wouldn't be playing him in any of the finals. We've got quite a young team already and also have better options in the midfield. We need at least one specialist small forward ... that's why one of Leon or Medders has to come in. Blair will get his chances, but it shouldn't be in this year's finals series.

 

[Michael_knoth]

I'm thinking
Anthony - presti
brown - Fraser
goldsack - Davis
*if anyones sore and NEEDS a rest, medhurst to come in*
Anthony played okay I thought, but he just seems lost sometimes. Obvious swap for presti. Rambo stays in. Played well again. Deserves it. Reid
to play in the vfl maybe 50-60% game time just to suss him out before finals, or one more week off. Fraser gets his 200th on the back of leeroys rest/susp. Will make way for Leeroy the following week though. Davis' forward pressure I thought was terribly missed on sat night. Goldsack although I love him is the one who has to make way. I love his legs. I love his style and I normally love his kicking. However last weekend cannot happen and he has to be punished. Still think he's best 22 though. Didak/ heater/ pendles/ Thomas/ sidebum/ beams. Any of these players need a rest they go out for medhust. I stress need. Don't wanna make any unnecessary changes before finals.

 

[Krueger]

Presti and Reid can sit this one out. Both are too slow for Roughead and Franklin. JA and Brown both did their job and beat their opponent.

One of the most amusing comments Ive seen in a long time. Franklin is a freak but Roughhead too quick for either Presti or Reid?

Seriously give it away.

 

[Pies_10]

Out: L Brown, Goldsack, N Brown, Anthony(never to return)
In: Presti, Reid, Fraser, Davis

 

[THATSGOLD]

Outs at the moment are Leigh Brown and Alan Didak (shoulder)

 

[mattys123]

Out: L Brown, Goldsack, N Brown, Anthony(never to return)
In: Presti, Reid, Fraser, Davis

Bit harsh on Jack, he played in the backline for almost the first time ever at senior level, and did a fairly good job, apart from the one shocker at the end.

Yes, he isn't in our best 22 at the moment, but if Dawes or Cloke went down, he would be the first in to replace them up forward IMO.

And Goldsack? Really? He was in career best form before he missed a week with a slight injury, and after one game you want to drop him for a forward?

No chance.

I keep coming back to Jarryd Blair, who although he has been very good, I just don't see a spot for him in our finals side, especially with Davis or Meds having to come in.

It will be interesting to see if anyone else is rested this week also.

 

[THATSGOLD]

There's no doubt he's been very impressive since coming in and he should become a good player in time, but I wouldn't be playing him in any of the finals. We've got quite a young team already and also have better options in the midfield. We need at least one specialist small forward ... that's why one of Leon or Medders has to come in. Blair will get his chances, but it shouldn't be in this year's finals series.

Norm you are clearly out of touch with the game.. just my opinion as you have yours but that is one mighty strange comment. Please elebrate why blair wouldn't play against the dogs first up?

You mention medhurst and leon who play a similar position but blair is a midfielder who we need against the run of the dogs? Im sure there is another player that will go out before him to find a spot for a small forward..

 

[Lockyer24]

Out: L Brown, Goldsack, N Brown, Anthony(never to return)
In: Presti, Reid, Fraser, Davis

Happy with this. Need to drop a defender for a small forward big time.

 

[soreplums]

Davis V Medhurst is a tough one.

One the maggos efforts you have to go with Medhurst.

Medhurst- stronger mark than davis, can be a match winner, good kick for goal, can tackle, plays inside 50m

Davis- better defensively than Medhurst. Good kick for goal, delivery has been up and down, is clever and creative. Is he an effective crumber?

What do we need- a small marking forward, or a forward who can keep the ball inside 50m? I'd like it if they could both crumb too...

As much as I love Medhurst, I'd go Leon simply because of his proven defensive pressure inside 50m and the fact that he has played more senior footy this year. Decision may have been easier if Medhurst backed up last run at AFL level against the crows.

 

[doppleganger]

Davis V Medhurst is a tough one.

I really dont think it is those two fighting for the one spot.

It is Medhurst v Davis v Blair v Lockyer IMO.

Medhurst - can be a bit of a marking target.....very hot and cold, but good form in the magoos.

Davis - brilliant forward pressure......struggled all year, poor form in the magoos

Blair - great pressure and burrows in, surely game style suited for finals footy.....is actually in form in the AFL atm.

Lockyer - consistent and you know he will play the role asked of him, good form in the VFL.

It is a very tough decision.......id actually leave Blair in the team......he has earnt his spot.

 

[mattys123]

Nah. Lockyer's not in the mix, his last AFL game showed that, he was near embarassing, even though we won easily.

It's Meds vs Leon vs Blair for spot number 22 IMO, and I wouldn't mind seeing all 3 go head to head this week for that final spot.

Although I just can't see Blair keeping his spot, he is a midfielder, nothing else, when we desperately need at least one more defensive forward, like Leon or even Meds at his best.

My money's on Leon ahead of all 3 (I say 2) for week 1 of the finals, especially given we play the Dogs who Leon always rips apart.

 

[soreplums]

I really dont think it is those two fighting for the one spot.

It is Medhurst v Davis v Blair v Lockyer IMO.

Medhurst - can be a bit of a marking target.....very hot and cold, but good form in the magoos.

Davis - brilliant forward pressure......struggled all year, poor form in the magoos

Blair - great pressure and burrows in, surely game style suited for finals footy.....is actually in form in the AFL atm.

Lockyer - consistent and you know he will play the role asked of him, good form in the VFL.

It is a very tough decision.......id actually leave Blair in the team......he has earnt his spot.

The one thing that Lockyer offers a little better than the others at the moment is that he can kick a goal and can find space offensively. I just think that he gets caught out defensively. Not through lack of trying, though. I just think that if he isn't in the best position to lay a tackle, he struggles to get there and provide effective pressure.

 

[half_back_flank]

I would think it is more Leon vs. Medders vs. Blair vs. Steele vs. Tarks for two spots.

Going into finals, my preference is Steele and Medders.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see doppleganger's post there, but with with the indifferent form of Steele in the last 6 weeks, i think he should be put in that group to make it a 5.

 

[The Norm]

Norm you are clearly out of touch with the game.. just my opinion as you have yours but that is one mighty strange comment. Please elebrate why blair wouldn't play against the dogs first up?

You mention medhurst and leon who play a similar position but blair is a midfielder who we need against the run of the dogs? Im sure there is another player that will go out before him to find a spot for a small forward..

Ha!

As I said earlier, we need a specialist small forward. Leon is ideal as he's able to play as a genuine crumber but one of him or Medhurst will definitely play. I'd like to see both get a game against Hawthorn.

We've got midfielders covered. Beams, Caff and Sidebottom are all capable of playing midfield, though Steele does get exposed sometimes because of his pace. He's a smart enough player to know how to get free though, which goes a fair way to combatting this.

Blair will be the first to go due to his inexperience. Even against Essendon when he played that brilliant first quarter there were a couple of instances where he tried to do too much and made the wrong decision. There were more of these against Adelaide. He's not a small forward, he's a midfielder. It's a lot easier for a first year player to impress when his side is dominating. Finals will be different. Blair's time will come.

So, simplified for ease of comprehension:

Blair = Not a small forward.
Meds/Leon = Small forwards.
We need a small forward = Blair out.

And whoever said Presti is too slow for Roughhead must be having a laugh. He's quicker than three of our midfielders.

 

[the_champ_2004]

Rule out presti. Was in hospital last week and that's why he didn't play. He may be iffy for the first final but should be ok.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Ha!

As I said earlier, we need a specialist small forward. Leon is ideal as he's able to play as a genuine crumber but one of him or Medhurst will definitely play. I'd like to see both get a game against Hawthorn.

We've got midfielders covered. Beams, Caff and Sidebottom are all capable of playing midfield, though Steele does get exposed sometimes because of his pace. He's a smart enough player to know how to get free though, which goes a fair way to combatting this.

Blair will be the first to go due to his inexperience. Even against Essendon when he played that brilliant first quarter there were a couple of instances where he tried to do too much and made the wrong decision. There were more of these against Adelaide. He's not a small forward, he's a midfielder. It's a lot easier for a first year player to impress when his side is dominating. Finals will be different. Blair's time will come.

So, simplified for ease of comprehension:

Blair = Not a small forward.
Meds/Leon = Small forwards.
We need a small forward = Blair out.

And whoever said Presti is too slow for Roughhead must be having a laugh. He's quicker than three of our midfielders.

yet again you didn't answer the question. Why would you take blair out? Out of the whole 22? We need him in the midfield. He strengthens it. Leon will be back but maybe at the expense of a back.

For me its more out of goldsack and Reid fighting for the spot.. rather than blair and leon.. least they both play in defence.. makes alot more sense.

toovey presti harry
reid max thomas
shaw swan ball
beams dawes davis
didak cloke sidebottom

jolly pendlebury blair

wellingham johnson L.brown caff

managed to fit your small forward in there.