Changes For the sydney test

[The Passenger]

I still can't see why there is no love for Lynn.

He averages 45 for Qld and 55 this year with two centuries and two fifties.

He has a better 1st class record than Ferguson, Cosgrove, White, Finch, Marsh and D Hussey all of whom have been talked up.

He and Khuwaja are our middle order batsman of the future and they should be played NOW.

Promote M Hussey to open and play the two kids at 3 and 4. Drop Clarke & Ponting to 5 and 6 respectively.

cause he has only played about a half dozen matches at first class level. yeah, beer has played less, but that reeks of desperation for a spinner.

from the little i've seen of him and the scores he's been making he looks very good. but there is no need to rush him in. give him another twelve months and see how he's going and whether he can at least sustain that form for some time frame. there's been some people talking about him, but we've all said relatively that same thing.

 

[Daytripper]

cause he has only played about a half dozen matches at first class level. yeah, beer has played less, but that reeks of desperation for a spinner.

from the little i've seen of him and the scores he's been making he looks very good. but there is no need to rush him in. give him another twelve months and see how he's going and whether he can at least sustain that form for some time frame. there's been some people talking about him, but we've all said relatively that same thing.

10 first class matches actually.

Ponting had hardly played any when they promoted him. Ditto Hughes.

He is probably the most in form middle order batsman in this country. He is performing better than guys like Ferguson & White.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd like Lynn to do it for another 12 months (one more season). He has only started to work out his technique so there is no reason to rush him yet. Khawaja is the best one available by a fair margin, and then it is a chook raffle, I'd take Sean Marsh as the 2nd.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

I still can't see why there is no love for Lynn.

Same as Nic Maddison.

Both talented players, with good performances this year. But both pretty young to be talked about as serious contenders.

Personally, I wouldn't mind Khawaja, Maddison and Lynn all getting a game. Yeah, they'd lose. But it's time to start the rebuilding process. But the chances of something like that happening are almost nil.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Done and dusted, what a relief.

The side..

Shane Watson
Simon Katich
Michael Clarke
Usman Khawaja
Michael Hussey
Steve Smith
Brad Haddin
Mitchell Johnson
Peter Siddle
Michael Beer
Mark Cameron

If that is the side..dear god. How is Cameron ahead of Copeland? Lol at Beer.

 

[Daytripper]

I'd like Lynn to do it for another 12 months (one more season). He has only started to work out his technique so there is no reason to rush him yet. Khawaja is the best one available by a fair margin, and then it is a chook raffle, I'd take Sean Marsh as the 2nd.

Marsh is 27 with a 1st class average of 37 and he has hardly been setting the world on fire this year.

 

[dan warna]

CA will accept the result of test 5 and carry their favourites to slaughter the minnows and boost averages justifying selection policy and the rise of australia...

hoping for some form against the brits in 2013.

 

[pistonbroke23]

while were at we might as well put out the performances of the guys in shield cricket who would be in consideration from 2008/09 to current, including Smith and Hughes.

Hughes 37 inns, 1no, 1962 runs, Ave 54.50, HS 198, SR: 61.8, 7 x 100, 8 x 50 (Current Season: 118 runs @ 16.85)
Smith 25 inns, 1no, 1036 runs, Ave 43.16, HS 177, SR: 67.4, 4 x 100, 2 x 50 (CS: 162 runs @ 32.40)
Khawaja 34 inns, 4no, 1821 runs, Ave 60.70, HS 214, SR: 54.2, 6 x 100, 8 x 50 (CS: 598 runs @ 74.25)
Ferguson 23 inns, 1no, 981 runs, Ave 44.59, HS 132, SR: 63.4, 4 x 100, 3 x 50 (CS: 337 runs @ 48.14) missed 09/10 season with injury
Marsh 25 inns, 3no, 1058 runs, Ave 48.09, HS 137, SR: 44.4, 2 x 100, 8 x 50 (CS: 514 runs @ 59.14)
White 22 inns, 3no, 905 runs, Ave 47.64, HS 135, SR: 52.4, 2 x 100, 6 x 50 (CS: 114 runs @ 28.50)
D Hussey 43 inns, 3no, 1893 runs, Ave 47.32, HS 174, SR: 67.3, 5 x 100, 10 x 50 (CS: 401 runs @ 40.10)

If you put the aus a game in against the soap avoiders in tas. into the mix mix where khawaja failed twice and white hit a second inn. hundred under the pump to give us a lead,then whites ave goes into the 40s and khawajas comes back along way.Flawed arguement.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Marsh is 27 with a 1st class average of 37 and he has hardly been setting the world on fire this year.

Yes, and at 27 he has 10 years at the top level. We don't need to have 10 20 year olds in the side. Some youth. We need some grafters in the side. We have 5 strokemakers in the top 6, way too many.

 

[The Passenger]

If you put the aus a game in against the soap avoiders in tas. into the mix mix where khawaja failed twice and white hit a second inn. hundred under the pump to give us a lead,then whites ave goes into the 40s and khawajas comes back along way.Flawed arguement.

yeah cause shield scores are a flawed argument for picking the test team

just so you know if you wanna include the australia a game khawaja average 61.1 for the season in first class and white 38.8. if you wanna include the vic game white's goes back down to 36.14.

flawed argument....

 

[pistonbroke23]

yeah cause shield scores are a flawed argument for picking the test team

just so you know if you wanna include the australia a game khawaja average 61.1 for the season in first class and white 38.8. if you wanna include the vic game white's goes back down to 36.14.

flawed argument....

So your admitting you were trying to make white look worse and khawaja better or was that a coincedence. Sheild scores and paticulally finals are a great way to select australian test cricketers.I totally agree.Check out whites 2 big hundreds in recent history

 

[Mego Red]

Shane Watson
Simon Katich (goodbye)
Ricky Ponting (goodbye)
Usman Khawaja
Michael Clarke
Michael Hussey
Brad Haddin
Nathan Hauritz
Mitchell Johnson
Peter Siddle
Trent Copeland

 

[The Passenger]

So your admitting you were trying to make white look worse and khawaja better or was that a coincedence

yep cause i hate white. shouldn't even be playing for victoria he's that overrated.

 

[bossman111]

CA should push as hard as they can for a test series in Bangladesh post World Cup. Will give us the opportunity to take the likes of Maddinson & Lynn on tour, plus Ussie & Ferguson to play, with Ponting left out (rested, retired or dropped) and maybe Watson & Hussey rested as well. Strauss and Anderson were rested on their tour there this year and Tim Bresnan really came to the fore for them and it really showed in this test match.

They are no longer the god awful side they used to be, Tamim Iqbal and especially Shakib al Hasan are two of the better young cricketers going around at the moment, certainly better than anything we are producing right now.

I think the World Cup being just around the corner is complicating things a lot. They will not drop Ponting or Clarke from test cricket knowing that the batting in the ODI side will revolve around them. Hence a tour immediately following the WC will be a really good time to blood some kids.

 

[Pigdog]

I think the World Cup being just around the corner is complicating things a lot. They will not drop Ponting or Clarke from test cricket knowing that the batting in the ODI side will revolve around them. Hence a tour immediately following the WC will be a really good time to blood some kids.

We have a heap of ODI's coming for these players to show their ability in that form of the game, but at present they aren't playing well in the Test match format and this needs to be addressed.

 

[The Governor]

Ricky has lost the Ashes!!

And, if the selectors bring in Katich for Sydney, I think Australian cricket will have lost its marbles!! We could be lableed the English side of the 90s. During the 90s, Illingworth, Mickey Stewart and Peter May recycled former test players who were above the age of 28 when ENgland was in trouble.

We have to look at the future to find 10 to 15 year test cricketers who have the character to re-launch Australia into a test match force.

Most bloggers are talking up Maddison and Lynn. How about Finch? Gee, if you compare Finch against Lynn, I would pick Aaron Finch!! We need a number 3 batsman to replace RIcky, and Finch is the man!!

I would have Usman at 4. He struggled against top quality bowling in the Australia A game and James Pattinson sorted him out during the one day game with a beauty!!

And, I think people have forgotten that English cricket woke up in January 2001 when they launched a bid to lure RW Marsh to head up their Cricket Academy in July 2001. It has taken English cricket 10 years to reap the rewards of executing the tough cricket decisions. They went on the youth path; gave Flintoff, KP, Ian Bell, Alastair Cook and Andrew Strauss games under their belt and the rewards have come to fruition.

Since 2001, ENglish cricket have adopted the Australian selection policy. They looked at the long term future of English cricket and stuck with a core group of cricketers in the belief that they would come through. IN return, we have become very English in our selection policy AND WE HAVE TO THANK ANDREW HILDITCH, MERV HUGHES AND JAMIE COX for this.

The sad state of Australian cricket would not have occurred if Trevor Hohns stayed on in 2005. He was the man who made the tough decisions whilst Hilditch lives in fantasy land whilst he is working for his law firm on a casual basis and walking his dog on Glenelg Beach.

How could CA award the Chairman role to an individual who was dismissed HANDLED THE BALL; hooked himself out of the test side in 1985 and is married to Bob Simpson's daughter!!

Blood should be on James Sutherland; hilditch's and Nielsen's hands.

THE GOV

 

[eddiesmith]

Now they have both played 4 test matches, 1 of them played 1 v Pakistan and 3 tests at home, the other 4 tests in India

Cameron White- Batting average of 30, 5 wickets @ 68
Steven Smith- Batting average of 23, 3 wickets @ 51

Now of course we all remember the argument used every time someone suggests White for the test team and that was how terrible he was when batting at no8 in India...

 

[The Passenger]

smith shouldn't have been picked in the first place. wasn't in good enough form to come into the team, especially when there are other options in form playing shield cricket.

talented no doubt, but you gotta pick guys who are in run scoring form.

 

[Bazzar]

whilst Hilditch lives in fantasy land whilst he is working for his law firm on a casual basis and walking his dog on Glenelg Beach.

I heard he split with his old partner and now has his own practice and could be going full time. If so, it would be a good time to step down and be replaced with Chappell.

Also I would like to see Cox step down and Merv reinstated. They sacked the wrong one.

And i know it has been done to death, but a truck load of money should be offered to Warne to replace Nielson. (even though he is contracted, pay him out for the sake of Australian cricket.)

And maybe we could also offer Saker better money to come back home.

 

[eddiesmith]

Other thing is he only bowled about 18 overs in the 2 matches so they would argue he was picked to provide the spin option, I am sure Duss could have provided atleast the same if not better than Smiths 18 wicketless overs of spin

 

[The Passenger]

Also I would like to see Cox step down and Merv reinstated. They sacked the wrong one.

merv never struck me as a great selector, but i could be wrong.

we do need to get a bowler in there though - from listening to people talk in the media damien fleming would be the best.

who's idea was it to have three opening bats and a number three as selectors.

i would say a spinner but probably the only go floating around is warnie and he's wouldn't make a good selector IMO because he's not very good at keeping personal bias aside. you only have to look at his list of top cricketers he played with and how low steve waugh and adam gilchrist were....

 

[Daytripper]

Most bloggers are talking up Maddison and Lynn. How about Finch? Gee, if you compare Finch against Lynn, I would pick Aaron Finch!! We need a number 3 batsman to replace RIcky, and Finch is the man!!

Aaron Finch - 324 runs @ 29.45
Nick Maddinson - 365 runs @ 52.14
Chris Lynn - 461 runs @ 51.22
Cam White - 114 runs @ 28.50

Can you please stop with this Finch & White nonsense - and that goes for ringing up SEN too...

 

[big_e]

How could CA award the Chairman role to an individual who was dismissed HANDLED THE BALL; hooked himself out of the test side in 1985 and is married to Bob Simpson's daughter!!

I'm not sure why any of that is relevant.

 

[big_e]

merv never struck me as a great selector, but i could be wrong.

we do need to get a bowler in there though - from listening to people talk in the media damien fleming would be the best.

who's idea was it to have three opening bats and a number three as selectors.

i would say a spinner but probably the only go floating around is warnie and he's wouldn't make a good selector IMO because he's not very good at keeping personal bias aside. you only have to look at his list of top cricketers he played with and how low steve waugh and adam gilchrist were....

Maybe we should have selectors who have a good history as selectors. NSW has been picking good first class players who make an immediate impact for the past few years, and Victoria's record in recent years is outstanding. I'd be ringing up the people who select those sides.

 

[happy_eagle]

Ideally you want experience in an ashes test

David Hussey
2010/11: 468 @ 47
2009/10: 970 @ 57
2008/09: 522 @ 40
2007/08: 1008 @ 56
2006/07: 911 @ 53

Not to mention his stack of County runs