Preview / changes v North Melbourne

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dare to dream only to be punctuated by reality

 

[Bazzar]

rfctiger74 ..... i agree with what you are saying, but I stll have a feeling we will be stepping up against some good sides over the next few weeks. we are definately not as bad as we showed yesterday. If we lost yesterday's game with all our regular players in the team, then i would be shattered. As it is, I will stay positive with the boys, and I for one did not have us in the 8 this year, and was always going to give Hardwick his full three years ....By the way, I was at the game yesterday, the flight home gives you time to reflect. Bring on Kangas

Im with you here. This game we will will be dead set underdogs with no one giving us a chance, for them the chance of no Petrie and Zebiell, us include Maric, Griffiths, Martin and Jackson and i bet we will play a tough hard brand of footy.

I reckon Martin will have a cracker. Apparently he has been made to sweat it out big time at Leo Berrys, that alone will have him breathing fire. It will be worth going to this game just to watch him i reckon.

Big chance this game.

 

[Liam Boy]

2. Concussion isn't something you get in your shoulder.

Well there's this thing called the ground, which he hit his head on after he was knocked down.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Ziebells gone. Don't agree with it but he's gone.

 

[THE MOEMAN]

Ziebells gone. Don't agree with it but he's gone.

Sorry to disappoint but he won't be getting any weeks. Cotchin is more likely to get rubbed out then ziebell who actually got the footy.
Both will be safe

 

[benno87]

Ziebell is in trouble, you leave the ground and injure an opponent you get weeks. The ball being in play may drop it to 1 week. Big loss as our midfield mix has been super, Cunnington must come in and perform.

Richmond are a real chance, we are half the side away from Etihad and could have 3 of our top 10 players out.

 

[THE MOEMAN]

Ziebell is in trouble, you leave the ground and injure an opponent you get weeks. The ball being in play may drop it to 1 week. Big loss as our midfield mix has been super, Cunnington must come in and perform.

Richmond are a real chance, we are half the side away from Etihad and could have 3 of our top 10 players out.

The ball was in the air hence he jumped to get it which you are allowed to do. He won't get any weeks for going for the footy

 

[richmond_14]

^ How about having this discussion on your own board?

 

[Greggy]

Wow you can tell who the Graham's and Derrickz of the BF community are, I prefer to approach the North match like Cotchin and Deledio will.

Out: Graham, Derrickz, webberley, Batchelor (injured)

In: Martin, Maric, Jackson, Griff.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Sorry to disappoint but he won't be getting any weeks. Cotchin is more likely to get rubbed out then ziebell who actually got the footy.
Both will be safe

Why would I be disappointed? Makes no difference to me as we couldn't beat time with a stick at the moment no matter who's playing and I don't like seeing players rubbed out playing hard footy.
Just being realistic in the sense that if you breathe on somebody now you're in trouble.They love this off the ground shit and hate seeing players shirtfronted or anything for that matter.
Think Cotchin is in trouble too for a soft open hand miscue.

Might get lucky but don't get too shocked if Jack has a holiday.

 

[PHX]

Well there's this thing called the ground, which he hit his head on after he was knocked down.

Don't shoot the messenger as I don't think he deserves to be suspended but after Maxwell got off for his hit on McGinnity where he didn't get McGinnity high but then broke his jaw hitting the ground, they changed terminology.

Tribunal guidelines:
Contact shall be classified as high or to the groin where a player's
head or groin makes contact with another player or object such as the
fence or the ground as a result of the actions of the offending player.
http://www.afl.com.au/tribunal system/tabid/13707/default.aspx

 

[peejay]

Don't shoot the messenger as I don't think he deserves to be suspended but after Maxwell got off for his hit on McGinnity where he didn't get McGinnity high but then broke his jaw hitting the ground, they changed terminology.

Tribunal guidelines:
Contact shall be classified as high or to the groin where a player's
head or groin makes contact with another player or object such as the
fence or the ground as a result of the actions of the offending player.
http://www.afl.com.au/tribunal system/tabid/13707/default.aspx

In this case. Gawn...........

 

[THE MOEMAN]

Don't shoot the messenger as I don't think he deserves to be suspended but after Maxwell got off for his hit on McGinnity where he didn't get McGinnity high but then broke his jaw hitting the ground, they changed terminology.

Tribunal guidelines:
Contact shall be classified as high or to the groin where a player's
head or groin makes contact with another player or object such as the
fence or the ground as a result of the actions of the offending player.
http://www.afl.com.au/tribunal system/tabid/13707/default.aspx

Ziebell didn't hit joseph in the head, he bumped shoulders and ribs when going for the footy.
So your case above is not relevant.
Trust me ziebs will not get weeks and if he does then so will cotchin

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Ziebell didn't hit joseph in the head, he bumped shoulders and ribs when going for the footy.
So your case above is not relevant.
Trust me ziebs will not get weeks and if he does then so will cotchin

It astounds me you can be so confident in light of what we've seen recently.
I more confident both will go more than not.
Might get down to points whether they miss but can't see either being let off.

 

[the big lebowski]

Don't shoot the messenger as I don't think he deserves to be suspended but after Maxwell got off for his hit on McGinnity where he didn't get McGinnity high but then broke his jaw hitting the ground, they changed terminology.

Tribunal guidelines:
Contact shall be classified as high or to the groin where a player's
head or groin makes contact with another player or object such as the
fence or the ground as a result of the actions of the offending player.
http://www.afl.com.au/tribunal system/tabid/13707/default.aspx

That makes no sense. So if you bump a guy perfectly legally but he falls and hits his head you are liable? I don't take much notice of the afls crap. Last week shuey elbowed lt in the groin, but the mrp then agreed he didn't. Shuey was obviously lucky it wasnt a fence or the ground that got him in the balls. Elbows are fine.

 

[peejay]

I can't understand why people think cotch will go. It was barely worth the 50 metres he got.

 

[THE MOEMAN]

I can't understand why people think cotch will go. It was barely worth the 50 metres he got.

I can't believe people think ziebell might go, we didn't even give away a free kick.
Both should be fine imo

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Ziebell didn't hit joseph in the head, he bumped shoulders and ribs when going for the footy.
So your case above is not relevant.
Trust me ziebs will not get weeks and if he does then so will cotchin

even if he goes, do you seriously think the midfield you saw yesterday will be able to match yours?

I know it sucks losing a guy, right or wrong, but I don't think its gunna swing the balance that much

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Cotch will go because I have a ticket worth 2 large should he win the brownlow.Thats how it works.

 

[THE MOEMAN]

even if he goes, do you seriously think the midfield you saw yesterday will be able to match yours?

I know it sucks losing a guy, right or wrong, but I don't think its gunna swing the balance that much

Maybe, maybe not.
Anyway Cotchin is more likely to go then ziebs.
Like I said earlier jz went for the ball and didnt even give a free kick away, safe as houses

 

[tugga]

How about everyone waits until Monday 5pm to see how it all unfolds. North supporters coming here and telling our blokes what to think are out of line.

 

[_RT_]

Ziebell didn't hit joseph in the head, he bumped shoulders and ribs when going for the footy.
So your case above is not relevant.
Trust me ziebs will not get weeks and if he does then so will cotchin

So explain to us then how Jospeh spent the rest of the game on the bench suffering from concussion? I'm all for supporting your players when they are in trouble but the fact of the matter is that Jospeh was unable to play the rest of the game after Ziebell hit him and thats what counts. Cotchin is the same as Camerons from last week was jumping for the mark and when realised that he couldn't take it tried to make the spoil. Unfortunately for him he didn't hit the Suns player high and got pinged for it.

As for Ziebell not giving away a free kick, the umpire in the Shuey/Thomas case said that in hindsight he would have given a freekick against Shuey, so the line of Ziebell didn't get pinged doesn't work either.

 

[THE MOEMAN]

So explain to us then how Jospeh spent the rest of the game on the bench suffering from concussion? I'm all for supporting your players when they are in trouble but the fact of the matter is that Jospeh was unable to play the rest of the game after Ziebell hit him and thats what counts. Cotchin is the same as Camerons from last week was jumping for the mark and when realised that he couldn't take it tried to make the spoil. Unfortunately for him he didn't hit the Suns player high and got pinged for it.

As for Ziebell not giving away a free kick, the umpire in the Shuey/Thomas case said that in hindsight he would have given a freekick against Shuey, so the line of Ziebell didn't get pinged doesn't work either.

Joseph wasn't concussed, he broke his collarbone. Which further proves he was hit in the shoulder region and not the head.

Cotchin gave away a 50m and hit the GC player late in the head with a open palm. As opposed to ziebs who got hands to the footy.

 

[_RT_]

Joseph wasn't concussed, he broke his collarbone. Which further proves he was hit in the shoulder region and not the head.

Cotchin gave away a 50m and hit the GC player late in the head with a open palm. As opposed to ziebs who got hands to the footy.

Doesn't matter if he got hands on the footy and whether gave away a freekick or not. Taylor Walker won a free kick for his tackle on Morris 2 weeks ago and still got suspended for his actions. Ziebell is every chance to go given he left the ground made high contact and injured Joseph and caused him to miss the rest of the game.

Cotchin gave away a 50 for an open hand slap, didn't cause injury and didn't cause the Suns player to miss the rest of the game.

 

[THE MOEMAN]

Doesn't matter if he got hands on the footy and whether gave away a freekick or not. Taylor Walker won a free kick for his tackle on Morris 2 weeks ago and still got suspended for his actions. Ziebell is every chance to go given he left the ground made high contact and injured Joseph and caused him to miss the rest of the game.

Cotchin gave away a 50 for an open hand slap, didn't cause injury and didn't cause the Suns player to miss the rest of the game.

Lindsay Thomas broke Rohan's leg yet didn't get suspended. Your logic is very poor.
Ziebell won't go for the reasons I have mentioned in this thread, Cotchin is in more danger.